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LET'S GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD. THIS IS. I'M SORRY. BANG THAT GAVEL. WHY NOT? THIS MEETING OF
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THE AIRPORT BOARD IS CALLED TO ORDER. IT IS 6:02 P.M. WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2026.WE'RE IN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE START OFF OUR MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE. LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. SO JUST ASK FOR YOU TO. WHATEVER YOUR. YOUR PLEASURE IS TO PRAY OR THINK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM
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IS ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES DISCUSSION. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM AUGUST 12TH, 2026. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. AND A SECOND. THANK YOU. DENNIS. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND DISCUSSION.THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. REMARKS FROM VISITORS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VISITORS WITH US. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE HAVE SHANE WOODARD, ONE OF OUR ESTEEMED PILOTS AT THE AIRPORT. AND PETER WINDHAM IS ONE OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AT THE AIRPORT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN HERE, PETER. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL ARE REALLY BUSY OVER THERE. A LOT OF AIRPLANES OUT THERE. I GUESS YOU'RE BUSY. THAT'S FANTASTIC. THEY'RE THEY'RE SUPPORTING US TOMORROW WITH THE HELICOPTER. OH, GOOD. FANTASTIC. SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE
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THAT. SO DISCUSSION ITEMS. FIRST I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM KYLE WITH APEX AERO. THE GLASSES ARE KIND OF A NEW THING. KYLE. SO WHY DON'T YOU COME UP HERE, TELL US WHO YOU ARE, WHY YOU'RE HERE. DID YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO BEGIN? ANY COMMENTS? ALRIGHTY. SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON TOTAL AIRPORT ACTIVITY, FUEL SALES, SOME BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RECENTLY OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS SINCE WE LAST MET. SO FIRST, WE'LL GO OVER FUEL SALES. WE SOLD ABOUT 12,000 GALLONS IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE SOLD ABOUT 11,000 GALLONS IN AUGUST. JUST TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH IDEA, IT WAS ABOUT 9000 GALLONS IN JULY. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE, LITTLE UPTICK THERE, KIND OF SEE SEEING IT TREND IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR AIRPORT ACTIVITY. WE HAD ABOUT 8300 OPERATIONS IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT 9000 IN AUGUST. YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 230 DIFFERENT TURBINE OPERATORS COMING TO TERRELL, 230, 230. WOW. YEP. AND THEN WE'VE HAD ABOUT 16 NEW TURBINE OPERATORS IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER COMBINED. AND SO OUT OF THAT, I THINK DENNIS ASKED LAST MEETING, WHO OUT OF THOSE WERE CAA INDIVIDUALS. SO OUT OF THE 16 THERE WAS 11 THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CAA FUEL INCENTIVE. AND THEN OUT OF THAT, WE'VE HAD FOUR THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE A SECOND VISIT. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE RETAINING THOSE CUSTOMERS. SO. WE'VE. SO THE MAJORITY OF EXECUTIVE AIRCRAFT TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE SEEN AT TERRELL, IT REALLY JUST APPEARS TO BE BUSINESS RELATED. WE'VE HAD AIRCRAFT COME IN ASSOCIATED WITH VARIOUS TYPES OF INDUSTRIES, JUST TO NAME A FEW. WE'VE HAD LARGE RESTAURANT CHAINS, AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIPS, TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES AND OTHER CORPORATE BUSINESSES. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THE EXACT PURPOSE OF EACH VISIT, BUT WE DO KNOW THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES FLYING[00:05:02]
INTO TERRELL. THEY'RE ENCOURAGING. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE. THIS COULD DEFINITELY INDICATE A GROWING INTEREST AROUND TERRELL OF PEOPLE WANTING TO BRING THEIR BUSINESSES INSIDE OF TERRELL. AND SO A LOT OF THE CONTINUED GROWTH MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS. SO. ON THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THINGS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE STILL UTILIZING LINKEDIN AND MAINLY PHONE CALL OUTREACH TO THOSE DECISION MAKERS OPERATIONALLY, OF THOSE AIRCRAFT MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. AND WE'LL CONTINUE EXPANDING THESE CONNECTIONS AND USING OTHER TOOLS AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GET THE TRANSIENT TRAFFIC IN. I PLAN TO WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND TERRELL EDC, WHICH WE DO HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME THINGS THEY'VE BEEN DOING TO KIND OF HELP GET TRANSIENT TRAFFIC IN.AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOVING IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION. SO, KYLE, DO THE PEOPLE THAT THE PILOTS THAT THE CORPORATE POLICY ARE FLYING IN, DO THEY? I KNOW I'M NOT ASKING FOR STATISTICS, JUST GENERAL. ARE THEY ARE THEY HANGING AROUND THE AIRPORT OR ARE THEY GETTING IN A CREW CAR AND GOING SOMEWHERE? YEAH, THEY'RE GETTING IN A CREW CAR. GOING SOMEWHERE? YEAH. THAT'S MAIN. THE PILOTS WILL HANG AROUND THE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING THE PILOTS DO. THEY HANG AROUND. I KNOW PROBABLY THEIR PASSENGERS ARE CORPORATE EXECUTIVES OR WHATEVER. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING SOMEWHERE. SO YEAH, THEY'RE BIG. ARE THEY USING CREW CARS TYPICALLY THE THE PASSENGERS OR THEY HAVE NO ENTERPRISE. IT REALLY HELPS HAVING AN ENTERPRISE TWO MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH. SO THAT'S MAINLY WHAT THEY DO. WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. THEY'VE GOTTEN CARS TO US WITHIN TWO HOURS OF JUST LIKE A POP UP TRIP. SO. WELL, I HAD THE UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCE OF HAVING TO RENT AN ENTERPRISE CAR BECAUSE SOMEBODY BUMPED INTO THE BACK OF MY WIFE'S CAR, AND THEY HAD A TON OF CARS OVER THERE, A LOT OF CARS AT ENTERPRISE. SO IT'S GOOD. THEY'RE GIVING A GOOD SERVICE THEN. YEAH, IT DEFINITELY HELPS. SO QUESTIONS FOR KYLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT.
ANYBODY JUST COMMENTS. I MEAN SOME OF THOSE TRANSIENT PILOTS YOU'VE SENT A COUPLE DOWN TO THE MUSEUM. SO WE WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S LIKE A SYNERGY WE'D LIKE TO REALLY DEVELOP. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU SENDING THOSE PILOTS DOWN TO TALK WITH US A LITTLE BIT. SO OF COURSE, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. YEAH. VERY COOL. WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE BIG HANGAR WAS VACANT. THE BIG HANGAR. YEAH. AT THE END WHERE IT USED TO BE, THE FBO HANGAR. YEAH. I, I, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION. HE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR US. OKAY. SO WE HAVE DATA DROP OUT IN ON THE 10TH OF SEPTEMBER. GRAPH WENT TO ZERO. YEAH. THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. RUSSIA'S PROBABLY THE RUSSIANS ONE OF THOSE DAYS. YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU KYLE. Y'ALL ARE DOING GREAT WORK. AND I, I, EVERY TIME I GO BY OR GO PAST THE TERMINAL, I'M IT SEEMS LIKE I ALWAYS MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME I SEE A HELICOPTER. WE JUST HAD A, I SAW A MILITARY HELICOPTER AT THE END OF THE DAY OR SOME SORT OF TURBINE AIRCRAFT OUT THERE, WHICH IS. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT THAT OFTEN. SO I, I SENSE THAT WE'RE HAVING MORE OF THAT TRAFFIC IS THRUST LIVING UP TO THE OBLIGATION TO BUY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GAS. THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SLOWER PERIODS. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE OWNER AND BASICALLY IT KIND OF THEY GO BASED OFF THEIR CLASS GROUP. SO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSES, CLASS BLOCKS AND STUFF AND THE WHOLE THING. WHAT MAKES TERRELL EFFICIENT FOR THEM IS THEY CAN PUT A BACK SEAT AND ESSENTIALLY SAVE TIME WHEN THEIR TIME BUILDING. SO IN TRAINING, YOU SEE THAT QUITE A LOT. THREE PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF AN AIRPLANE AND THEY'RE GOING TO SWAP OUT. SO IT'S REALLY EFFICIENT FOR THEIR OPERATION. SO YEAH, JUST CURIOUS THE THE PATTERN A WHOLE LOT. AND I'M HOPING THEY'RE BUYING GAS TO MAKE IT WORTH OUR WHILE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH THEY DO. HE SAYS SELFISHLY. THANKS SIR. THANK YOU KYLE. SO CHRIS, NOBODY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE FUEL FARM THAN YOU DO, BUT THE GUY DIGGING THE DITCH KNOWS ABOUT IT. YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE CHRIS OUT THERE WITH A SHOVEL. YEAH. NO, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY SAD IF THAT HAPPENS. I'VE BEEN THERE WITH THE CAMERA. YEAH. YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A
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PICTURE OF THIS BECAUSE IT'LL BE A ONE TIME EVENT. TWO OLD BENDING OVER NOW. SO GOOD NEWS.THE FUEL FARM IS PROGRESSING VERY WELL. WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY.
NOTHING AS FAR AS IMPACTING ANYTHING. IT'S TECHNICAL EQUIPMENT ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN OPERATIONS, BUT IT'S COMING ALONG IN. WE JUST HAD A CALL ON THAT WHEN WE ANTICIPATING END OF NOVEMBER, 1ST OF DECEMBER. THE THE WHOLE GOAL IS BY DECEMBER AND CHRISTMAS, WE'RE HAVING FUEL IN THERE. AND HOPEFULLY BY JANUARY, THE TRUCKS OUT THERE, TWO OF THEM WILL BE GONE AND GET OFF MY BOOKS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME GOOD THINGS THERE. THERE'S TWO 12,000 GALLON TANKS OUT THERE. THEY'RE DOUBLE WALLED, SO THERE'S NO SECONDARY CONTAINMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S LEAK DETECTIONS IN THE DOUBLE WALLED TANKS, AND WE CAN KEEP UP WITH AND DRAIN, ETC. AND MONITOR. I WANT TO BE JET A WANT TO BE AVGAS. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF FILLING UP. APEX'S MOBILE TRUCKS, AND THEY'LL KEEP THEM OUT THERE ON THE APRON. AND THE MAIN TRUCKS CAN ALSO DISCHARGE AND FILL UP OUR TANKS. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR A THIRD TANK. THE THIRD TANK IS NOT ON ORDER. IT WON'T BE. BUT WE BUILT THE THE SKID CONCRETE FOUNDATION OUT THERE FOR ANOTHER 12,000 GALLON TANK IF WE WANTED TO.
THAT Y'ALL GET TO WORK WITH LATER BECAUSE I'LL BE GONE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WE DID ACCOMMODATE FOR THE FUTURE AND IT'LL BE THE SAME EQUIVALENT. SO THERE COULD BE THREE, 12,000 GALLON TANKS OUT THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE GATED AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A CARD. SO NOBODY CAN GO UP THERE AND GET GAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE'LL HAVE THAT ALL SECURE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PAY PUMPS OUT THERE ON THE APRON. THAT'LL BE CREDIT CARD DRIVEN, JUST LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOU GO FILL UP YOUR CAR. SO IT'LL BE SELF-SERVE AT THAT TIME. AND.
DON'T GET ME INTO THE PRICE RIGHT NOW. WE AIN'T GOT THAT FAR YET. SO ANYWAY, IT'S PROGRESSING VERY WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER EXCITING NEWS RELATIVE TO THAT, BUT THE GOAL, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. YEAH, AND IT'S LOOKING GOOD. AND I THINK WHEN WE GET THROUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PRETTY FINE PRODUCT PUT TOGETHER THE APRONS AND THE CONCRETE AND ALL THAT DIRT WILL BE SMOOTHED OUT, GRASS WILL GROW, ETC. SO THAT'LL BE GOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, SO THERE, THERE, I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY ABOUT A WEEK LESS THAN IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE DITCHING FOR THE LINES, GOING TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE CREDIT CARD MACHINES THEY'RE DITCHING FROM THE TANKS TO THE. SO WHAT'S NEXT? HAVE THEY GOT WHAT'S HAVE THEY DONE? HAVE THEY GOT THE LINES IN ALREADY OR HAVE THEY COVERED UP THE DITCHES. THEY STILL WORKING ON THAT. YEAH. THEY'VE GOT THE LINES IN AND WE HAVE SOME PUMPS KIDS THAT'S GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO THE TANKS. SO WE GOT SOME REFILL PUMPS THERE. WE GOT SOME DISCHARGE PUMPS SO WE CAN FILL UP THE TRUCKS. THOSE KIDS WILL BE COMING ONCE KIDS COMING NEXT WEEK, THE OTHER KIDS COMING IN THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SO YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING SOME EQUIPMENT START COMING IN. IF YOU RECALL THE WHITE BUILDING OUT THERE TO THE SOUTH OF THE TERMINAL, THAT'S THE ELECTRICAL VAULT FOR THE LIGHTS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUEL ISLAND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THOSE TWO ARE SEPARATE, STRICTLY LIGHTS.
IS THAT ALL THAT'S FOR? NO, THAT'S FOR THE RUNWAY. LIGHTS AT PAPA. PAPA. ALL THOSE LIGHTS ON THE ELECTRICAL PROJECT THAT WE DID WHEN WE SHUT DOWN. BUT THAT'S NOT SUPPLYING ELECTRICITY TO THE PUMPS. NO. OKAY. ELECTRIC FOR THE PUMPS. AND THE PUMP STATION IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE TRANSFORMER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TERMINAL. SO WE GOT POWER FROM IT. THEN WE BOARD UNDERNEATH THE THE DRIVEWAY COMING IN ENTRANCE ROAD COMING INTO THERE AND WENT OVER THERE. SO THE LINES FROM THE TANKS ALL THE WAY TO THE APRON, THEY'RE ALL UNDERGROUND. OH, THEY'RE DONE ALREADY. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THOSE KIDS COME IN HERE.
SHE'LL SEE IN THE NEXT MONTH YOU'LL SEE A BIG CHANGE. PUMP STATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THAT'LL DRAW MORE. I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WILL DRAW MORE PILOTS BECAUSE THE LOWER COST. SO YEAH, YOU GOTTA SAY YOU GOTTA SAY THAT THE DRIVE UP APPEAL, IT'S A
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REALLY GOOD LOOKING INSTALLATION WITH THE CONCRETE AND THE WROUGHT IRON. IT'S I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF AN EYESORE, BUT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS PRETTY WELL DONE. YOU DIDN'T TRUST ME. DIDN'T SAY THAT I'M HURT. WOULD YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES? WELL, NO. SO WERE THOSE TANKS NOT DELIVERED A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE? IT SEEMED LIKE THOSE WERE MUCH LONGER LEAD ITEMS IN THE BEGINNING. NO. WHEN WE WERE TOLD INITIALLY WE WERE THROWN INTO THE MIX AND THE TANK MANUFACTURER REALLY DIDN'T NAIL DOWN THE TIME. HE JUST HE GOES, OKAY, HERE'S YOUR ORDER. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE GETTING ORDER AT A HAMBURGER PLACE AND SAID WE'D BE READY IN 20 MINUTES OR WAIT TIME FOR A RESTAURANT. THE INITIAL WAS A LITTLE LONGER, BUT STILL WASN'T FAST ENOUGH FOR ME. BUT IS THERE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THAT WHOLE INSTALLATION? SOMEONE HAVE TO COME OUT OTHER THAN THE CONTRACTOR? AND YEAH, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND THAT'S ALSO INVOLVING OUR FIRE MARSHAL. SO HE'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED WHEN WE FILL THEM UP AND ALL THAT NORMAL OPERATION. AFTER THAT, KYLE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND DOING A LOT OF THE, THE PMS AND THE, THE MINOR MAINTENANCE THINGS OF THAT NATURE FILTERS, ETC. DID YOU INCLUDE A HALF DOZEN ALLIGATOR CLIPS FOR THE GROUNDING STRAP? THOSE THINGS, EVERY PUMP YOU GO TO, THE DAMN THING IS BROKEN UP. JUST JUST FYI. KEEP THAT IN MIND. KYLE. WELL, WE HAVE A. WE WILL APEX BE ABLE TO BUY BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF THE TANKS. WILL YOU BE ABLE TO BUY FUEL AT A LOWER COST? POTENTIALLY, YEAH.BECAUSE THE TRUCKS DON'T HOLD ANYWHERE NEAR THAT MUCH. RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I CAUTION WE'RE NOT GOING TO FILL UP. I THINK THERE'S THE FUEL HAS A LIFE OF ITSELF. SO YEAH, PARTICULARLY IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT WE JUST FILL UP AND WE GET CHEAPER GAS. YEAH. I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO WANT. BUT IN ACTUALITY WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE LIFE SPAN OF THE FUEL ITSELF. YEAH. I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT ADDITIVES. I'VE, I'VE DONE THIS ALL MY LIFE WITH DIESEL GENERATORS. AND YOU GOT TO PUT GEL IN THERE AND ADDITIVES SO THEY DON'T FREEZE UP WHEN IT'S 15 DEGREES FOR A WEEK. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT. BUT I GET REAL CAUTIOUS BECAUSE THAT STARTS PUTTING ADDITIVES IN. AND THEN I GOT TO LOOK AT THE INTEGRITY AND THE QUALITY OF THE WALLS. AND IF WE GOT TO DO INSPECTIONS ON INTERNAL INSPECTIONS OF THE TANKS, ETC.
THE JET FUEL IS A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN GASOLINE. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. DOUBLE TANK TO PROTECT YOU A LITTLE BIT FROM THE COLD, RIGHT? YOU'D HOPE. YEAH IT DOES. HOW MANY GALLONS OF 100 DID YOU SAY WERE IN A MONTH ABOUT YOU DIDN'T SPLIT IT OUT. HE JUST GAVE US A TOTAL GALLON. IT'S 12,000 GALLONS AS WE SAID FOR THE LAST MONTH FOR JET A AND 100 LEFT. SO YEAH, THAT'S COMBINED. BUT TYPICALLY OVER THE WHAT I SAW, HE SENT ME THE FUEL CELLS FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE I WAS WANTING TO SEE IF WE GOT A SLOPE LINE GOING UP. AND WE REALLY DON'T. WE HAVE JUST A VERY SMALL SLOPE FIELD PRICES ARE HIGH. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN AVGAS AND JET FUEL, I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S 80/20. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY 25%. SO BUT YOU KNOW, ABOUT 12,000 GALLONS, 80% OF ITS JET JET. A AND OBVIOUSLY THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THE RATE OF CONSUMPTION, HOW MUCH WE CAN BUY IN VOLUME.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. RIGHT. SO AND IT'D BE A GOOD DATA POINT TO HAVE BEFORE THE TANKS GO IN. SO YOU CAN KIND OF MARK THAT SLOPE GOING VERTICAL. SO I'M INTERESTED IN BECAUSE I GET PART OF THE FUEL CELL. SO I'M MORE INTERESTED THAN YOU ARE PROBABLY. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW BUT OKAY. OKAY. IS THAT IT. ANYBODY ELSE ON FUEL FARM? I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK COMMENT. I, I FIRST SET FOOT ON AIRPORT GROUND IN 2015 AND MY FIRST SOLO CROSS COUNTRY WAS TO DURANT, OKLAHOMA, WHERE I DISCOVERED SELF-SERVE FUEL. AND I'VE SINCE DONE A FULL STOP LANDING AT OVER A HUNDRED PUBLIC AIRPORTS IN TEXAS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CURIOUS WHY TERRELL'S THE ONLY 5000 FOOT RUNWAY WITHOUT SELF-SERVE FUEL. AND EVERYONE'S ALWAYS WONDERED WHY THAT WAS. BUT AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT NEVER GOT ANYTHING DONE UNTIL YOU GOT HERE. YEAH. AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
AND I'M REALLY I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE JOINING THE JOINING THE THE CROWD. AND I AGREE WITH HAL THAT I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR TRAFFIC GENERATOR FOR THE AIRPORT. GOOD, I HOPE SO. ALL THE HOURS YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS THING, PILOTS TEND TO BE OVERLY FOCUSED ON FUEL PRICES, RIGHT? ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HIM RICH. I'M JUST TRYING TO BREAK EVEN.
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YEAH. WE'LL MAKE THOSE RENTAL TRUCKS GO AWAY. IT'LL BE YEAH. WON'T BE A HAPPY DAY. SO YEAH.SO LET'S TALK ABOUT CAPITAL PLANNING. DENNIS HAD SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS, BUT LET'S KICK IT TO YOU CHRIS, FOR WHATEVER YOU GOT FIRST. SO SO THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE LAST TIME WE BRING THIS ITEM UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM. AS WE KIND OF TALKED THIS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD TIME AT OUR MEETING, BUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT BEHIND THIS, AS SOME MANY OF YOU WENT TO THE TEXAS AVIATION CONFERENCE, YOU FOUND OUT TXDOT DOESN'T ROLL IN BY NEXT YEAR. THEY ROLL IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. SEEMS LIKE. AND FOR US TO GET IN THE WHEELHOUSE OF THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT I'M TRYING TO BUILD BASICALLY A CAPITAL PLAN AND WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. AND DENNIS, AS YOU SAW IN YOUR EMAIL THAT HE DID, AND IN IT HURTS ME TO SAY THIS, BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB. ARE WE EVEN RECORDED? IS THIS RECORDED? YEAH, THIS IS BEING RECORDED. YOU CAN REPLAY IT LIVE BROADCAST AND VIDEO. YEAH. GOT A SHOVEL. I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT PICTURE. SO DENNIS SERIOUSLY DID A GREAT JOB BASICALLY COMBING THE ENTIRE AIRPORT WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SOME WE'VE ALREADY INCORPORATED, SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF IN THE PLAN THAT ARE HIDDEN, LIKE WITH THE TOP ONE WAS RECONSTRUCT THE RUNWAY. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THROUGH OUR TXDOT AVIATION, THEY COME IN AND ACTUALLY SURVEY OUR RUNWAY, AND THEY DO IT ABOUT EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS. AND OUR LAST SURVEY, I THINK WAS 24, I BELIEVE. AND THE OVERALL CONDITION WAS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. IT WASN'T EXCELLENT, BUT IT WAS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. IT WASN'T SUBPAR. SO THAT THAT PROGRAM IS ALREADY GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND THAT'S IN THERE. SO THAT'S AUTOMATIC, RIGHT? WELL, YOU THINK IT WOULD BE AUTOMATIC, BUT I'VE GOT A TRIGGER IN THERE THAT I'M GOING TO SAY, HEY, TEX DOT SEND THAT TRUCK DOWN THROUGH HERE AND THEY CAN DO IT ONE OF TWO WAYS. ONE, THEY CAN DO SOME X-RAYS. ONE, THEY CAN DO SOME SEISMIC. A LOT OF IT IS BASICALLY OBSERVATION. IT'S A THIRD PARTY CONTRACT THAT TXDOT USES. AND HE JUST COMES THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. SO THE GOOD THING IS HE'S GOT A CALIBRATED EYE ON WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT EVERY TIME FROM RUNWAY TO RUNWAY. BUT I SAY ALL THAT TO WRAP IT UP. THAT RUNWAY RESTORATION PROGRAM, I'M PUTTING THE TRIGGER PROBABLY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND THEN WE DON'T NEED IT. WE JUST MOVE IT TO THE NEXT YEAR. WE MOVE IT TO THE NEXT YEAR. BUT IF, AS YOU LEARNED IN THE TEXAS AVIATION, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THE CAPITAL FUND, THEN IT WON'T EVER BECOME A SUBJECT OF TOPIC OF BEING CONSIDERED. SO FROM THERE. SO I KIND OF OPEN IT UP TO YOU, THE BOARD, AS TO SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THERE THAT YOU SAW OR STIMULATED, SOME THOUGHT THAT DENNIS PUT TOGETHER. SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THERE THAT SOME LAND ACQUISITION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT WAS PART OF TRYING TO DO A JOINT PARTNER EFFORT WITH THE EDC. SOME OF THAT'S THE RUNWAY PROTECTION ZONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AT 80, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE. WE'RE KIND OF IN VIOLATION OF SOME KIND OF RULE BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE PROPER EASEMENT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE GARVER REPORT. BUT YEAH, THE GARVER REPORT TALKS ABOUT THAT PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I 20. YEAH. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO US. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO US.
THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE GOT TO RUSH OUT THERE AND BUY AND PROTECT OURSELVES. AND IT'S BEEN, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF YOU BEEN HERE LONGER THAN I HAVE KNOW THAT THAT PROPERTY IS JUST IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE IT BECOMES A RETAIL TYPE OF SITUATION. IS THAT IS THAT TRUE OF THE WESTLAND AREA? WEST WETLANDS TO THE WEST, THERE'S A BIG WETLAND AREA. SO WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE RUNWAY, THERE'S KING'S CREEK BACK IN THERE. YEAH, THAT IS PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WASN'T IF THERE'S SOME PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OUT TO THE WEST, MAYBE THAT'D BE SOMETHING TO GET SOME MONEY TO DO ONE OF THOSE 18 B EVALUATIONS ON OR SOMETHING TO SEE IF THEY CAN MITIGATE OR. YEAH, SOMETHING THAT'S BIG MONEY MITIGATION THING. YEAH.
WHEN YOU GET INTO THE FLOODPLAIN, THAT'S ALREADY A TWO YEAR TICKER RIGHT THERE TO GET GOING. YOU SEE THAT THE CIP LINES, IT'S IN THERE SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES. SO ANYWAY, I'LL I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS OUT THERE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO
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TAKE THIS AND START KIND OF BUILDING THE PLAN OF GOING FROM THERE. I'M I'LL WAIT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CAPITAL THINGS I WANT TO ASK ABOUT? I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IS THERE PLANS TO PUT HANGARS ON THE NORTH NORTH OF MATRIX OR IN THAT AREA? I MEAN, IS THERE. AND THAT GOES TO THE QUESTION ABOUT REDEVELOPING THE THE TAXIWAY, THE TAXI LANE. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE A LIKELY KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR MONEY. YEAH. YES. SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE A MAIN HANGAR. WE CALL IT THE A MAIN HANGAR. IT USED TO BE THE PREVIOUS FBO. SO WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TENANT. THAT WOULD BE A JOINT EFFORT WITH THE EDC TO RENOVATE THAT HANGAR AND GET A TENANT IN THAT. THERE'S ALSO OTHER DISCUSSIONS, AS WE KNOW, ON WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE TAXIWAY OF CAREFLITE, THERE'S 1100 AIRPORT ROAD THAT IS PART OF THE CITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MARKET AND SOLICIT FOLKS TO GET INVOLVED.IT'D BE NICE IF THAT BUILDING WAS MOWED DOWN, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
SO BESIDE MADDOX IN THAT AREA, YES, THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. THAT TAXIWAY WOULD HAVE TO BE REFURBISHED AND COMPLETELY. IT'S NO GOOD. SO YEAH, ONCE WE GET PAST THE CONCRETE THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. SO THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT. BUT IF I HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO BE AT THE END AND THE NEED CONNECTION TO A TAXIWAY, THAT'S PART OF IT. WE CAN COME SOUTH OF THE BETWEEN CAREFLITE AND THE A MAIN HANGAR OR THE OLD FUEL TANKS ARE. WE CAN MAKE A TAXIWAY AND GO WEST AND COME ACROSS SOLID WINGS, DRIVEWAY. THAT ROAD CAN MOVE. YEAH, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC. SO WE LOOKED AT VARIOUS IDEAS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF JUST TAKING SILENT WINGS AND JUST HAVING A STRAIGHT OVER TO AN INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT COMPLETE FIELD THAT'S AVAILABLE AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY. SO THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY INSIDE THE FENCE. NO. SO APPARENTLY THE PLAN WOULD JUST BE TO MOVE THE FENCE AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE OF THE AIRSIDE. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IS THAT COMMON ABOUT THE TAXI LANES, TAXIWAYS? IS THAT THE BURDEN OF THE DEVELOPER IF HE PUTS IN A BUNCH OF HANGARS, OR IS THAT A HOW DOES THAT WORK EXACTLY? SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THAT'S THE BURDEN OF THE DEVELOPER'S NEGOTIATION. NEGOTIATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE NEGOTIATION AND IMPACT FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH TO, TO ALTER THAT. SO, SO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, YOU COULD, YOU COULD NEGOTIATE THE DEVELOPERS GOING TO BUILD A HANGAR. COULD THOSE TEX DOT FUNDS BE USED TO BUILD THOSE TAXI LANES, CONNECT THOSE HANGARS TO THE TAXIWAY? NO, NO, TEX DOT IS NOT IN IT TO MAKE YOU MONEY. RIGHT. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THEY'RE IN IT FOR MAINTAINING AND BASICALLY RESTORING YOUR EXISTING. SO THEY'RE NOT IN IT TO MAKE YOU TO HAVE A CASH COW OUT THERE AND SAY, OKAY, TEX DOT'S GOING TO BUILD ME FIVE, 6000 SQUARE FOOT HANGARS AND I'LL HAVE A ROW OF HANGARS. AND THEN THE REVENUE COMES TO THE CITY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT INTO THAT. HOW THAT WORKS. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT TAXIWAY RESTORATION, AWS RELOCATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OUR AWS IS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE SIDE DOOR OF OF EAST TEXAS FLYING SCHOOL RIGHT THERE THAT I'VE GOT A PROJECT IN THERE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THAT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO EXTEND THAT CONCRETE RIGHT STRAIGHT ACROSS OVER TO THE TERMINAL. WE KNOW THE VINTAGE OF THAT A SAW SYSTEM. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR AN UPGRADE 2.0 WITH NEW HARDWARE. MAKE IT 19, 20, 32 PROOF ISH. YES. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND FOR ME TO PUT THAT THROUGH THE TEX DOT RINGER, I'M 3 OR 4 YEARS OUT. YEAH. SO THAT'S A BUT MY POINT IS THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THERE IS TO GET THAT ON THE LINE ITEM TO GO AND I, I WANT THAT MOVED. YEAH. THAT'S WHY KIND OF THINGS LIKE TRYING TO THINK AHEAD OF WHERE THAT VISION NEEDS TO BE, WHETHER WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO MORE HANGARS OR THERE'S JUST SIMPLY TIE DOWNS FOR THE SHORT TERM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. THAT'S WHY THE LIGHTING UPGRADE, I KNOW YOU JUST DID THE RUNWAY LIGHTING AND GOT ALREADY GOT SOLAR POWERED EDGE LIGHTS FOR THE TAXIWAYS. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD PLACEHOLDER FOR MONEY DOWN THE ROAD. IF YOU, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HIDE SOME MONEY AND THEN PROPERTY, PROPERTY, WILDLIFE FENCES, PERIMETER FENCES, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WE DON'T HAVE, I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF COYOTES ON THE FIELD.
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BUT I HAD A, I HAD A, I HAD A HOG EXPERIENCE ONCE, AS YOU DEVELOP. THANKFULLY I WAS TAXIING AND NOT FLYING, BUT WELL, IT SEEMS A LIKELIHOOD. AS THE CITY DEVELOPS MORE AND MORE PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BIGGER AND BIGGER CHANCE OF. IF WE INCREASE OUR AIR SIDE FENCE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE JUSTIFICATION IN DOING THAT. I'VE TRIED TO DO THAT TO PUT A ROAD ON THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER. YEAH, I'VE SEEN THERE ARE SEVERAL AIRPORTS DO THAT FOR SECURITY REASONS AND FENCE MONITORING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THAT'S NOT A TEX-DOT REIMBURSABLE. OH, REALLY? OKAY. WELL, YOU SEE, I SEE A LOT OF THAT BECOMES MORE OF A GRANT TYPE OF APPLICATION ISSUE THAT WE HAD TO CHASE AND TRY TO A LOT OF WILDLIFE FENCES AND PERIMETER FENCES IN THE CIP, BUT I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY HAVE SOME OTHER JUSTIFICATION.SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEER TO SPEAK OF. WE MIGHT. YEAH. SO WHAT IS SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S PROBABLY LOOMING FOR US, LIKELY LOOMING FOR US IN THE COMING YEARS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT A TOWER. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ALL INTO WHAT THAT I KNOW WE GOT. WE'D HAVE TO GET IT INTO THE PLAN CAPITAL PLAN, WHICH PRETTY BIG BITE. BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE OPERATING COSTS OF THAT. YES. SO JUST AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT. IT'S MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO A CONTROL TOWER, THEN IT BECOMES MORE FEDERALLY SUPPORTED. I GET MORE FEDERAL FUNDS AND SUPPORTING THAT FOR THE AIRPORT IN GENERAL, OR JUST FOR THE TOWER OPERATION FOR THE TOWER OPERATIONS, BECAUSE THEN WE GET INTO SUBSIDIZING THE MANPOWER FOR THAT TOWER. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT SOLELY THE BURDEN ON THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THAT THERE'LL BE SOME GRANT SUPPORTS OR FEDERAL SUPPORT OFF THAT. SO TO GET THERE, IT'S NOT JUST BASED OFF THE NUMBER OF TOUCHDOWNS. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE 1200 ARROW THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'VE DONE 200, 400 A DAY, ETC. IN MY EXPERIENCE HERE, WHEN WE GET UP TO ABOUT 500, 700, YOU GUYS AS PILOTS ARE GOING TO GO, I CAN'T FIND A SLOT TO LAND BECAUSE IT'S TOO BUSY. SO WHEN I MET WITH THE TEXTILE AVIATION FOLKS SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO PUT A LINE ITEM FOR A CONTROL TOWER WITH RADAR, OKAY? AND THERE'S A WHOLE LENGTHY STUDY THAT TXDOT IMPLEMENTS TO START DOING THE PROTOCOL, BECAUSE NOW IT BECOMES TXDOT AND FEDERAL JOINING IN TOGETHER. SO NOW IT BECOMES STUDIES OF GOING, OKAY, HOW MUCH CONSISTENCY ARE YOU ON YOUR TRAFFIC? WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC THERE? THERE IS THE FREQUENCY. IS IT YOUR FLIGHT SCHOOLS THAT ARE KEEPING YOU BUSY? ARE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT FROM REMOTE AREAS? THERE'S A THAT'S A DIFFERENT APPLES AND ORANGES AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC. SO THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF STUDY THAT GOES INTO EFFECT ON A CONTROL TOWER. IT'S JUST NOT SIMPLY, OKAY, WE HIT A THRESHOLD OF 600 OR 750 FLIGHTS A DAY THAT NOW WE GOT TO IMPLEMENT AND BUILD A CONTROL TOWER. AND THE TEXAS AVIATION GUYS STARTED EXPLAINING SEVERAL CHECK BOXES. THEY'VE GOT TO BE CHECKED OFF. AND IT STARTED GETTING OVER MY HEAD REAL QUICK. AND IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT THAT IT'S NOT 2 OR 3 CHECK BOXES THAT ARE GOING. THERE'S GOING TO BE, HE SAID, ABOUT A TWO YEAR PERIOD TO EVALUATE, GOING, OKAY, NOW WE GET FINAL APPROVAL TO BUILD WELL FOR APPROVED CONTROL TOWER WITH RADAR. SO DO YOU HAVE A SENSE AT ALL AT WHAT PERCENT A CITY WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING THE TOWER OR. I MEAN, THAT'S A WILD QUESTION TO ASK, BUT I JUST WONDER THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY I MEAN, THIS COULD BE A BIG COST TO MAINTAIN THE STAFFING IN THE TOWER, BUT I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH OF THAT THEY'RE SHEDDING. IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THEY'RE SHEDDING. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I DON'T. I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, 80, 20, 9010. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING. 20 I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE IN THAT IN THAT RANGE TO SUBSIDIZE FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT. BECAUSE ONE, THAT'S THE WHOLE INTENT OF BUILDING THE CULTURE AND GETTING FIND PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO START JOINING IN AND INVESTING, TO START BUILDING UP SOME GROWTH THERE AT THIS AT THE AIRPORT TO START, MAKE IT MORE A REVENUE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT BREAKING EVEN. YEAH, YEAH, I AND THAT'S OUR
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BIGGEST ASSET IN THE CITY. NUMBERS WOULD WORK. BUT YEAH, SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE QUITE CHALLENGING, BUT I THINK WE'LL BE AT A DIFFERENT REALM OF EXPENSES BY THEN THAN WHAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT CAPITAL PLANNING? OKAY. ONE ONE MORE COMMENT TO TO HELP ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. WE WORK ON THE MAIN HANGAR. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE EDC TO PARTNER UP WITH THEM AND CREATE A, A STRONG TENANT IN THERE.THAT WILL BE A BIG ANCHOR POINT AND NOT JUST LOOK SHORT SIGHTED AS WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY GROW.
WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT WE'RE FIXING TO DO A KIND OF A KICK OFF MEETING THAT, THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. IG THAT IS ON THE END OF THE RUNWAY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE JOINING. THEY'RE ALREADY PLUGGED IN AND ENGAGED AND STARTING TO TO GET THE WHEELS ROLLING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE AIRPORT DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S LOOKING FORWARD. SO MORE THINGS TO COME ON THAT IT'S I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SITTING IDLE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. I NOTICE IT'S REALLY A QUITE A BUILDING. THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM, A LOT MORE THAN I EVER THOUGHT OF. KYLE AND I LOOKED AT IT THE OTHER DAY, WELL, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. YEAH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY DOING A FACE LIFT. YOU WON'T KNOW IT'S THE SAME BUILDING WHEN WE GET DONE. IT NEEDS IT. YEAH. YEAH. BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. YOU GO INSIDE. YEAH. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY. IS THE OLD FUEL FARM GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED? DESTROYED TANKS PULLED UP, THAT KIND OF STUFF. IS THAT IN THE PLAN OR. WELL, IS IT NECESSARY EVEN? I MEAN, NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARY. AND WHEN I, I HAD A IMPROMPTU TO IC AUDIT ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME AND SAID, WE'RE HERE. WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT YOUR OLD TANKS. OH, I SAID, SURE, I'LL BE RIGHT OVER. SO I DID A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THERE. AND ONE IS, WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT, REMOVE THEM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IF WE ELECT TO PUT THEM BACK IN SERVICE, WE CAN DO THAT. WE JUST GOT TO GET THEM BACK AND HAVE THEM TESTED AGAIN. YOU GOT TO DO A PRESSURE CHECK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE'S ABOUT 2 OR 3 TESTS, SO I'M NOT REAL KEEN ON REMOVING THEM RIGHT NOW. ONE, WE'VE REMOVED FUEL TANKS HERE IN TOWN FROM THE FILLING STATIONS. AND YOU CAN CREATE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE TANKS WHERE THEY ARE. AND IF THE GROWTH WORKS OUT WHERE I VISIONED IT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE TANKS. YEAH. SO I WON'T HAVE TO BUY A THIRD TANK. I CAN JUST PUT THOSE BACK IN SERVICE FOR, YOU KNOW, PENNIES ON THE DOLLARS COMPARED TO WE DON'T KNOW REALLY ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THOSE TANKS, DO WE. YEAH. THEY'RE IN GOOD CONDITION.
ARE THEY. YES. REALLY INTERESTING. THERE'S NOTHING AS FAR AS INTEGRITY OF THE TANKS THEMSELVES. THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE. YEP. SO WE'D HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND CLEAN THEM UP BEFORE WE PUT FUEL IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO FILL THEM UP GOING WHO'S UP? ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS AND ITEM SIX. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO THROW DOWN FOR
[7. ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS ]
[8. SET NEXT MEETING DATE ]
FUTURE MEETINGS. SO THIS IS OCTOBER I PRESUME WE'LL PROBABLY MEET NEXT MONTH. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF WE HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS, BUT I WOULDN'T THINK WE WOULD MEET NORMALLY IN DECEMBER. SO WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 11TH. THAT IS VETERANS DAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT IS VETERANS DAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE AIRPORT? OKAY.IS THERE MAYBE A RANDOM MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE ADJOURN. RAY MOVES THAT WE ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND DISCUSSION. THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO. SO WE'RE ADJOURNED. AND I'M GOING TO HIT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.