[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12TH. ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAIRMAN, HAL RICHARDS. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS AUGUST 12TH MEETING OF THE AIRPORT BOARD. WE'LL START WITH ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA. A MOMENT OF SILENCE. 
          [3. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO A REVIEW OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          WHICH WAS NOT MAY 14TH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED FROM THE PREVIOUS AGENDA FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING? OH, HERE IT IS. IT WAS FROM JUNE 17TH. 
          OKAY. IF. IF. YEAH, THAT'S OFF OF TODAY'S MEETING. TODAY'S MINUTES. OKAY. OH, BOTH. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE REMOVING HAROLD WILSON, WHO HAS TERMED OUT FROM THE LIST OF BOARD MEMBERS. AND WE'RE ADDING BACK IN JAMES CRAIG. WELCOME BACK JAMES. THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK TO THE BOARD. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER CHANGES WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS AMENDED. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT RAY MOVES TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. SECOND AND A SECOND FROM JAMES CRAIG. NOW IS THE PART IN OUR MEETING WHERE WE HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS. WE DO ASK OUR 
          [4. HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS]
VISITORS TO KEEP THEIR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ARE. IT'S NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER FORMAT. IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FROM HERE FOR US TO AS A BOARD TO HEAR FROM OUR OUR VISITORS. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ALREADY BEEN MADE AWARE, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS. A. OPEN AND TO TERRIBLY IMPORTANT WITNESS, NO. RIBBON CUTTING. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE AVAILABILITY. COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, SIR? MY NAME IS PETER WENHAM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'VE. WE HAVE MET. BUT FOR THE RECORD. AND SO THE RIBBON CUTTING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS COMING, AND IT'S. WHAT IS THE DATE AGAIN? WEDNESDAY, THE NATIONAL AVIATION DAY. SO AFTER NINE MEDIA CONTACT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRAG ABOUT THE AIRPORT NOW WILL BE SPEAKING AS WELL. GREAT. AND IT'S WEDNESDAY, A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, CORRECT? GREAT. G ONE 1:00 11 A.M. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. AND FOR ANYONE ELSE, THERE'S ALSO. OKAY, SO ON THE WEBSITE. OH. ICE CREAM ON FACEBOOK. ICE CREAM MACHINE'S ALREADY THERE. THERE WE GO. AND THIS IS THIS IS FOR YOU OPENING YOUR LOCATION OF YOUR AVIATION BUSINESS FOR THE SERVICE. AND THE COMPANY IS CALLED ACTUALLY JUST REBRANDED AND QUICKLY PUT IT IN TEXAS AIRCRAFT SERVICE. 
          TEXAS AIRCRAFT SERVICE CENTER. THE OFFICE RIGHT, THE TARO PLANT. MORE TERRIBLE RIGHT. 
          GREAT. GOOD. WELL, WELCOME TO TARO. WELCOME TO TARO. WE'LL SEE YOU IN A WEEK. GREAT MAINTENANCE JOB ON THE FIELD. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER VISITORS WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? DO 
          [5. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
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WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ITEMS FROM THE CITY OR FROM BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO APEX AERO UPDATE. KYLE IS GOING TO GIVE US A WHAT HAPPENED THIS LAST TWO MONTHS? GOOD. OH. NOT SURE HOW WE FIX THAT. IF ONLY WE HAD A CITY ENGINEER IN THE ROOM. THERE'S ONE NOW. MIKE, CHECK. OH NEVER MIND. CATSKILLS. WELL GOOD EVENING. I'M JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE AGAIN ON RECENT AIRPORT ACTIVITY. SOME OF THE FUEL SALES AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS THAT WE'RE STILL DOING. SO IN THIS MONTH OF JULY, WE HAD ABOUT 8600 OPERATIONS. THIS INCREASED FROM PREVIOUS MONTHS TO ABOUT FROM ABOUT 1600. WE HAD ABOUT 269 PISTON AIRCRAFT AND 210 TURBINE AIRCRAFT. SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 30 MORE OF EACH AIRCRAFT FROM PREVIOUS MONTHS, WHICH IS GOOD. FOR FUEL CELLS. WE SOLD ABOUT 9000 GALLONS IN JULY, WHICH THAT'S SHOWN THAT WE'RE KIND OF BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THE RUNWAY CLOSURE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD TO SEE. OUR ROLLING 12 MONTH FUEL VOLUME STILL REMAINS APPROXIMATELY 115,000 GALLONS, AND THE FOCUS STILL REMAINS ON GROWING THE TRANSIENT TRAFFIC AND ATTRACTING NEW OPERATORS TO TERRELL. FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS WE'RE STILL UTILIZING. I SPOKE LAST TIME THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING LINKEDIN TO GET A HOLD OF THOSE AIRCRAFT OPERATORS. BASICALLY THE DECISION MAKERS OF WHERE THEY WANT TO SEND THEIR TURBINE AIRCRAFTS TO. AND SO WE'RE STILL SEEING POSITIVE RESULTS. IN JUST JULY, WE HAD SIX NEW TURBINE JETS USE TERRELL FOR THE FIRST TIME AS FAR AS WE'VE BEEN THERE. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE STILL EXPANDING OUR CONNECTIONS WITHIN LINKEDIN TO GET A HOLD OF MAINLY THE LARGER COMPANIES THAT HAVE LARGER FLEETS, IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE. SO AND WE STILL HAVE OUR OTHER TOOLS. WE HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL CRM, WHICH KEEPS TRACK OF ALL THAT, ALL THE DATA AND STATISTICS THAT WE GO OFF OF. SO. BUT THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT AS FAR AS LIKE AIRPORT OPERATIONS. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW MANY OPERATIONS DID YOU SAY IN JUNE OR THE PREVIOUS MONTH? IN JUNE? 16. BUT THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT. SO LAST MONTH WE HAD 7070 1600. 
          YEAH. THE JUMP IS 1600 INCREASE. IS THAT 115,000 GALLONS. IS THAT SPLIT BETWEEN JET A AND. 
          YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S TOTAL TOTAL FUEL GOAL OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. WHAT'S THE RATIO 10%, 10% 100 IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATIO IS, BUT IT'S RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS STATISTICAL DATA ON HERE, IT'S MAINLY MORE JET FUEL JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE BIGGER. THEY TEND TO TAKE MORE FUEL AT A TIME. SO. SO SIX NEW JET CUSTOMERS IN ONE MONTH WHO HAD NOT BEEN TO TERRELL BEFORE. YES, SIR. THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S SOME KIND OF RECORD, IS IT NOT? YEAH. IT'S SOMETHING WE STARTED INTRODUCING IN OUR INTERNAL CRM THAT WE'RE STILL TINKERING WITH, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE DATA THAT WE DO KEEP TRACK OF ON A WEEKLY BASIS, RIGHT? MATTER OF FACT, EVERY MONDAY I GO IN AND I CHECK THE PREVIOUS WEEK, SEE WHO THE NEW COMPANIES ARE, AND THEN USE THAT STATISTIC. SO MOVING FORWARD, I'LL BE 
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UTILIZING THAT STATISTIC TO SHOW TO YOU GUYS. HOW ARE THEY FINDING US? ARE YOU ATTRACTIVE? A PART OF IT IS REALLY THE LINKEDIN OUTREACH IS DOING PHENOMENAL JOB, BUT A LOT OF IT TOO IS WE'RE SHOWCASING MORE THAT WE ARE SEE A WHICH IS AGAIN, AN INCENTIVE FOR PART 91 OPERATORS TO COME THROUGH. AND IT'S A FUEL INCENTIVE FOR THEM. SO ANY IDEA WHERE THOSE SIX CAME FROM, SPECIFICALLY CAA OR LINKEDIN OR. THAT'S SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY WRITTEN DOWN, BUT AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, PROBABLY AT LEAST 2 OR 3 OF THEM WERE CAA COULD BE MORE. 
          NOT AT ALL. BUT YEAH, GREAT. GOOD JOB KYLE. I WANT TO SAY GOOD JOB TO YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB. I'M WATCHING YOU AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE TELLING ME EARLIER ABOUT CIVIL AIR PATROL, THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING. YEAH, YEAH. SO I WAS TELLING JUANITA THAT THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE KIND OF HAD A POP UP CIVIL AIR PATROL EVENT, SORT OF. IT WASN'T REALLY LIKE PRE-PLANNED, BUT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AN AIRPORT TO VOLUNTEER FOR, FOR KIDS AND PILOTS TO GO FLY. AND WITH PROBABLY LIKE A TWO DAYS NOTICE, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, FOR SURE, USE TERRELL. AND SO THEY DID. AND IT WENT VERY WELL. THEY HAD ABOUT SIX AIRCRAFT OUT ON THE RAMP, JUST GIVING RIDES FOR A FEW HOURS. SO THAT'S GREAT. SO THAT WAS THE FORNEY CIVIL AIR PATROL WITH SUPPORT FROM GREENVILLE, RIGHT? YES. YEAH. 
          IT WASN'T PLANNED. THEY CALLED ME A WEEK AGO. YEAH. YEAH. DIDN'T CALL ME. YEAH. BUT IT WORKED OUT. WELL DONE. YES. WELL DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE TXDOT ELECTRICAL PROJECT THAT SHUT DOWN THE RUNWAY FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IS STILL ONGOING WITH THE OPEN RUNWAY. SO BORED, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE TEXTILE ELECTRICAL PROJECT. FROM WHAT YOU PROBABLY SEE, IT'S ALL DONE AND IT'S ALL COMPLETE. HOWEVER, THE SOUTH PAPIS ARE NOT IN OPERATIONS. WE'RE WAITING ON CABLE. THERE'S A SPECIAL CABLE, SO I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE OPERATED TEMPORARILY WITH SOME SPLASHING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S COME ABOUT. SO UNDERSTANDING SILENCE IT MEANS YES AND HALLELUJAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S GOOD. SO THAT IS ABOUT THE ONLY ITEM. WE ARE THE WHITE BUILDING THAT'S OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THE TERMINAL. THAT'S THE ELECTRICAL VAULT THAT SUPPLIES ALL THE POWER TO THE RUNWAY. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MODIFICATIONS DONE THERE THAT'S NOT COMPLETE. WE GOT SOME ENCORE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE GOT TO FINISH OUT, BUT FROM OVERALL SITE WISE YOU WON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENT. IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE. SO I'M PROBABLY JUST GOING TO DROP THIS ONE OFF THE BOARD FROM NOW ON. IT'S GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP. WE'RE DOING THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS, THE FINAL CONNECTIVITY SWAP OVER ON ENCORE POWER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO FROM THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? ON THE BOOK? NO. TOTALLY SEPARATE. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. GREAT. 
          CONFUSION. I MEAN WE MADE IT RIGHT ON DATE. I COULDN'T BELIEVE FOR SOME PROGRAMS. RIGHT. SET THE EXPECTATIONS AND THEY BE THERE. SO IT WENT WELL. 5.3 IS A FUEL FARM UPDATE. SO NOW WITH SWAP AND MOVE OVER TO THE FUEL TANKS, THE FUEL FARM THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT AT THE INLET INLET INTO THE ENTRANCE TO THE TERMINAL. THERE IN THE CURVE, YOU SEE THE CONCRETE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. AND THERE'S MORE CONCRETE WORK BEING WORKED OUT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE TANKS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM COME PROBABLY THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER. THEY'RE 
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EXPECTED TO BE HERE AROUND AUGUST 26TH, BUT WE MIGHT HOLD THEM UP BECAUSE WE ONLY WANT TO PICK THEM UP ONCE AND PUT THEM DOWN. SO WE WE'RE HAVING WEEKLY CALLS THAT WE GO OVER THAT PROJECT AND WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE BIGGEST TOPICS RIGHT NOW IS THE QUANTITY OF FUEL THAT WE, HOW FAST WE FILL UP PLANES AND HOW FAST WE FILL UP TRUCKS. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE TRUCKS ARE THE ROADS BIG ENOUGH THAT WHEN 18 WHEELERS AND BIG TRUCKS CAN COME IN AND MAKE THE TURN AND THE RADIUS, YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME NEW FENCING COMING UP IN THAT AREA HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH, PROBABLY A MONTH AND A HALF. SO WE'LL KEEP THEM ENCLOSED AND THERE'LL BE A GATE SYSTEM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO KEEP THEM SECURE. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO IT'LL TOTALLY BE ENCLOSED AND EXCLUDED FROM THE PUBLIC. SO THEY CAN'T MEANDER AROUND AND PLAY WITH THE PUMP. SO THAT PROJECT'S COMING ALONG AND YOU'LL SEE THE PROGRESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THERE'LL BE SH PODS OUT THERE ON THE APRON THAT YOU CAN SELF-SERVE YOUR AIRCRAFT OR ANYONE THAT WANTS UP. THERE'LL BE A JET A AND A AVGAS. SO THAT LINE WILL JUST BE A SMALL SELF-SERVICE, LIKE A GAS PUMP STATION. YOU PLUG YOUR CREDIT CARD IN AND FILL UP AND YOU ROLL THE HOSE BACK UP. ET CETERA. SO ALL THE LINES WILL BE UNDERGROUND ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FUEL TANKS. SO ALL THAT'LL BE ON THE GROUND. 
          SO. THAT PROJECT'S COME ALONG VERY WELL, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL ALL BE SAID AND DONE AROUND PROBABLY AROUND NOVEMBER. WOW. THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. SO THE THE TUNNEL. 
          WHICH. Q TQT POD. CAN YOU FILL THE TANK BASED ON OUR USAGE. I MEAN SO THAT'S SUCH A PERSISTENT, SOPHISTICATED QUESTION THAT I LET THAT GUY DO ALL THAT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO 12,000 GALLON TANKS. SO BASED OFF HIS USAGE, HE'S NOT GOING TO TOP THEM OFF AT 12,000 AND KEEP THEM TOPPED OFF. FUEL HAS A LIFE, AS YOU ALL KNOW. SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE MONITORED. 
          AND IF WE KNOW THERE'S A SHOW COMING IN OR WE GOT FIVE JETS COMING IN, THAT'S GOING TO SUCK A THOUSAND GALLONS A POP, THEN YOU'LL PROBABLY MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ON DELIVERY. SO I ANTICIPATE THE INVENTORY OF THAT TANK LEVEL GOING UP AND DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE DOUBLE WALLED TANKS. SO SELFISH QUESTION BECAUSE I ASSUME THE MORE YOU BUY THE. 
          ABOVE GROUND TANK, RIGHT. OH YES. AND THEY'RE BUILT APPARENTLY THEY'RE BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. YEAH. SO NO, WE, WE, WE DO NOT LIKE UNDERGROUND. NO NO NO. OKAY. 
          THEY'RE BUILDING THE CRADLE. YEAH. WE, WE ALREADY DID BUILDING THE PAD RIGHT NOW AND THEY'LL. YEAH, THEY'RE FIXING TO BE POURING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE PROBABLY WITHIN A MONTH YOU'LL SEE SOME GOOD STRUCTURE BEING BUILT AND YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IT COME TOGETHER. WHICH BRINGS US TO MONEY. SO CAPITAL PLANNING, THIS IS WHERE I LISTEN TO YOU. SO AS YOU RECALL, WE DIDN'T MEET LAST MONTH, BUT PRIOR TWO MONTHS FOR THAT, I BASICALLY SAID, LET'S GENERATE. AS WE WENT TO THE TEX DOT AVIATION CONFERENCE, WE LEARNED YOU LEARN REALLY QUICK THAT TEX DOT TAKES ABOUT FOR 3 TO 5 YEARS TO PUT A PROJECT ON A LIST TO START MAKING IT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO WE CALL KIND OF LEFT THERE GOING, OKAY, WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE AND WHERE DOES THE FUTURE NEED TO BE? AND I'VE ALREADY GREASE THE SKIDS WITH TEX DOT AVIATION REP WHO'S NOW IT WAS CHRISTIAN COX, IF YOU RECALL. HE HAS MOVED ON AND LEFT TEX DOT AND NOW IT'S WITH SEAN NEWTON. SO SEAN AND I WERE GOING TO BE VISITING IN. 
          I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT SOME OF THE VISION AND SOME OF THE IDEAS. AND IF YOU RECALL IN THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS EVEN FUTURE ITEMS OUT THERE. AND ONE FUTURE ITEM OUT THERE IS A CONTROL TOWER WITH RADAR. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST GET TO PUT ON THE TEX DOT WISH LIST AND YOU GET IT BECAUSE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, THERE'S GOT TO BE A STUDY DONE. AND IT'S NOT A 
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TWO MONTH STUDY. IT'S NOT A FOUR MONTH STUDY. IT'S ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF STUDY. 
          AND WHAT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT SOME OF THIS IS, IF YOU RECALL, OUR 1200 AERO SOFTWARE THAT MONITORS ALL OUR ACTIVITY, THAT DATA IS GOING TO BE USED. SO THERE'S NOT A MAGIC NUMBER THAT WHEN YOU GET TO 750 OPERATIONS IN A DAY OR 24 HOUR PERIOD, THAT 751, YOU START BUILDING A CONTROL TOWER. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. THERE'S A LOT OF INPUTS THAT GO INTO THAT. AND THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT, THE FREQUENCY OF AIRCRAFT, THE TIMING OF THE AIRCRAFT, ALL THOSE STUDIES COME IN TO EVALUATE WHERE DO YOU GO. SO MY WHOLE EMPHASIS WITH MENTIONING TO TEX DOT WAS WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GET UP TO 700 TO 950, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT I CAN'T GET IN THE FLIGHT PLAN PATH TO LAND OR TAKE OFF. I'VE HEARD STORIES FROM SEVERAL FOLKS THAT I'VE HAD TO SIT AND WAIT 15, 20 MINUTES ON THE TAXIWAY TO LEAVE. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I PREEMPTED. THE TEX DOT WAS, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE TO SAY, IT'S GOING TO COME SOON, SOONER OR LATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY HAPPEN. WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, A LOT OF DISCUSSION. THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON AROUND TOWN WITH DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT'S COMING HERE, AND IT WON'T BE A MATTER OF TIME. SO SOMEONE WANTS TO LAND SOMETHING AT THE AIRPORT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW. SO MY GOAL WAS, IS JUST TO HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT WAS SAY FIVE YEARS OUT. THAT WAS A CONTROL TOWER WITH RADAR. AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW, I'M GOING TO SWAG IT. IT MIGHT BE COST $35 MILLION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG CHUNK BECAUSE STRUCTURE'S GOT TO BE BUILT. EVERYTHING'S GOT TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AND THEN THERE'S STAFFING ON TOP OF THAT. HOW DO YOU STAFF IT AND THEN WHO STAFFS IT? SO THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS. SO IT'S JUST NOT A LIGHT SWITCH THAT WE TURN ON GOING. I THINK WE'RE AT THE TIME WHERE WE NEED IT. SO WE WILL HAVE TEX-DOT INVOLVED AND THAT'LL BE A LONG STUDY FROM THERE. BUT SADLY, AND I'M NOT BADMOUTHING TEXAS, WE ALL LIVE IN THESE ROADS AROUND HERE AND WE DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO TO LBJ AND THOSE AREAS, WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE GET FROM SUNNYVALE TO MESQUITE? IT'S A PARKING LOT SOMETIMES, SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO FEEL THE PAIN TO GO. WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. SO AND THEY'RE NATURALLY OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO GO BUILD SOMETHING HOPING YOU COME OR HOPING YOU, YOU KNOW, FILL IT UP. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS. SO I'M GOING TO PREEMPT IT WITH THAT. WHAT HAVE Y'ALL HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT? THAT WAS PART OF YOUR HOMEWORK. AND I CAN TELL ONE OF OUR STUDENTS OVER HERE, GIVE ME THE. 
          HIS DOG ATE THE HOMEWORK, I THINK. AND SO MY POINT IS THIS. I'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT ALL TO ME RIGHT HERE TODAY, BUT I, I NEED YOU CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THE VISION, POSSIBLY GROWING PAINS OR SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OTHER ITEM THAT JUST STIMULATES SOME THOUGHT. THE CONCRETE APRON FROM THE TERMINAL OVER TO G ONE HANGAR. MAKE IT COME STRAIGHT ACROSS. FOLLOW ME. RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S A WEATHER STATION IN THE GRASS OUT THERE THAT'S GOT TO BE MOVED. SO. BUT IF WE MADE THAT APRON GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS, IT FITS IN WITH OUR LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT THAT WHATEVER WE BUILD BEHIND IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING IN THAT GRASS AREA ANYWAY. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THE CONCRETE ALL THE WAY ACROSS. IT CAN BE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE WANT TO USE IT FOR. THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT BE AN IMPROVEMENT ON DOWN THE ROAD, AND IT FITS IN WITH OUR LONG RANGE PLAN. SO OUR MASTER PLAN, MESQUITE HAS A LARGE LOT PARKING LOT FOR AIRCRAFT STORAGE, OPEN AIRCRAFT STORAGE. 
          I ASSUME THEY CHARGE RENT FOR. THERE'S PROBABLY 50 AIRPLANES OUT THERE THAT LIVE THERE. WE HAVE THE SAME THING. WE HAVE A TIE DOWN RATE. YEAH. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE GOT PLENTY OF LAND THERE. SO THERE'S TRYING TO TO ENHANCE THAT. AND WE'RE TALKING WITH SEVERAL FOLKS TO GET INVOLVED AND INVEST IN. WE'VE GOT SOME VERY GOOD INTEREST, VERY GOOD INTEREST. SO WE MIGHT 
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WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING THIS. THAT'S GREAT RUNWAY. THE HEAVIER AIRCRAFT, THE MANAGEMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. KAUFMAN COUNTY IS WANTING TO STAGE FOREST SERVICE HERE FOR IF THEY HAVE FIRES THAT THEY COULD FLY OUT OF HERE. I WAS APPROACHED ON THAT WITH STEVE HOWEY. AND THEY WANTED TO BRING AS MUCH AS A C-130 IN HERE. AND I. WE COULDN'T HANDLE THAT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BIGGER AIRCRAFT, BIGGER JETS COMING IN HERE. A LOT. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I, I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT BEFORE ABOUT A RESTAURANT MAYBE, BUT DEFINITELY A PILOT SHOP TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PILOTS FLYING IN. SO LET ME JUST KIND OF TAKE YOUR VISION AND KIND OF GIVE YOU A BROADER VIEW. WHEN Y'ALL TURN INTO BRITISH FLYING BOULEVARD, IT'S A BLANK LAND ALL THE WAY DOWN. JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE AIRPORT. IT DEFINITELY COULD BE A PART OF THE AIRPORT. THAT'S THE TYPE OF THINKING OF WHAT COULD IT BE? AGREED. I HAVE TO ADMIT, I DIDN'T DO MY HOMEWORK, BUT I STARTED AND MY APPROACH WAS MY APPROACH WAS TO GO LOOK AROUND AT OTHER AIRPORTS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS. AND I STARTED WITH WITH MESQUITE, AND THEN I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT IT. SO MY INTENTIONS WERE GOOD, BUT I DID NOT. BUT THAT MAY NOT BE A BAD STRATEGY TO GO LOOK AROUND AND GET IDEAS FROM WHAT OTHER AIRPORTS HAVE DONE WITH THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO MESQUITE HAD A REALLY LONG LIST OF THINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES YOU MAYBE A SEED FOR THE THINGS THAT FOR THINGS THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE TO CAROL. SO I DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH, BUT THAT'S HOW I STARTED. SO I LIKE THAT IDEA. FREDERICKSBURG AND GRANBURY ARE BOTH GREAT EXAMPLES. MCKINNEY WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE. I MEAN, YEAH, CAN I GET FROM GRANBURY? ASKED TO BOND. THEN THERE THEY GOT CITY COUNCIL WAY BEHIND, INVOLVED IN THEIRS BECAUSE THEY BUILT A WHOLE NEW TERMINAL. CITY COUNCIL IS ALL PILOTS, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I SHALL WANT TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, BUT YES, THEY, THEY I'VE TALKED TO THAT AIRPORT MANAGER THERE. THEY HAD A LOT OF FUNDING AND BACKING FROM THE CITY. SO IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GO GET SOME IDEAS. I MEAN, THERE'S THINGS I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT MESQUITE'S LIST OF POTENTIAL ITEMS. SO GOOD FOOD FOR THOUGHT. JUST LIKE I HAVE ONE THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A WHILE, WHICH IS IN THE OFFICE BUSINESS, WE CALL IT SPEC SUITES. BUT WHEN YOU'RE A OFFICE BUILDING OWNER AND YOU HAVE A TIRED OLD RUNDOWN SUITE THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME, RATHER THAN WAITING FOR A TENANT TO COME ALONG WHO HAS MONEY AND TIME, YOU GO IN AND RENOVATE THAT SUITE AND MAKE IT READY TO GO, READY TO LEASE ARE PLUG AND PLAY AND HANGAR A IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO SECRET. IT'S AN EYESORE INSIDE AND OUT. NOBODY WANTS IT BECAUSE IT'S IT JUST NEEDS TOO MUCH WORK. AND IF THERE WAS A WAY TO GO IN AND PREEMPTIVELY RENOVATE THAT HANGAR AND GET IT READY FOR A NEW TENANT, A NICE, CLEAN AVIATION BUSINESS THAT WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST IS LOOKING FOR A PLACE THEY CAN JUST MOVE IN AND OPERATE WITHOUT DOING A BUNCH OF A BUNCH OF CONSTRUCTION OR A BUNCH OF WORK AND, AND HAVE A NICE, YOU KNOW, CLEAN, RENOVATED HOME THEY COULD BE PROUD OF. I THINK IT'D BE A, I THINK IT'D BE A BONUS TO THE AIRPORT. WELL, WE'RE DEFINITELY I'VE GOT THE EDC PLUGGED IN AND THEY ARE ENGAGED AND THEY'RE ENGAGED WITH PETER AND WITH APEX, AND THEY SEE VALUE THAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE TABLE. 
          AND THERE'S DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WITH A HANGAR. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. BUT THERE'S GOT A LOT 
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OF EXCITING THINGS. YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE. I WOULDN'T SAY. I SAY THEY'RE KICKING THE TIRES AND GOING, OKAY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST ME? WHERE CAN I PUT IT? HOW CAN I CONNECT TO A ROAD? HOW, YOU KNOW, CAN I CONNECT TO THE INTERSTATE? WHAT'S MY PATH? THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE ALWAYS ENTERTAINING THOSE IDEAS. SO GOT A LOT OF GOOD STIMULATION CONVERSATION. THIS GOES IT'S REALLY EXCITING. AND WE GOT SOME, SOME REALLY EXCITING THINGS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO. MOVING THE AWA SYSTEM IS SOMETHING ON DOWN THE ROAD. YOU SEE THAT WE JUST REPAIRED THE PART OF THE APRON, THE THE RAMP IN FRONT OF A MAIN HANGAR AND B HANGAR. WE JUST REPLACED THAT CONCRETE. THE ASPHALT WAS BUCKLING ON THAT. THAT COST ME A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY. AND ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE RIPPED UP IN 2028 WITH TEX DOT PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE GROWING PAINS AND BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND WE GOT THAT FIXED AND REPAIRED. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. TAXIWAY LIGHTS, SOLAR RUNWAY LIGHTS. 
          GOOD. OKAY. GOOD. EVEN ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I'VE GOT ON MY LIST TO SHARE WITH YOU IS AT THE END OF THE TAXIWAY ON THE NORTH END, WHEN YOU GO PAST CAREFLIGHT AND YOU GO PAST MADDOX, IT GETS INTO THIS REALLY SCRATCHY ASPHALT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. 
          EVENTUALLY THAT WILL BECOME PROBABLY PREFERABLY ALL CONCRETE AND BASICALLY EXTEND OUR OUR TAXIWAY. SO IT'S KIND OF THE IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE VISION OF MOVING FORWARD AND KIND OF SPREADING OUR FOOTPRINT, HAVING A HEAVIER RUNWAY AND MAKING IT LONGER. I-20 AND AIRPORT ROAD, IF I CAN GO UNDER, IF THE ROAD CAN GO UNDER AND WE CREATE A DIP IN AIRPORT ROAD, THAT'S JUST PROBABLY $25 MILLION. IN THE EXCESSIVE. SO IT JUST BECOMES A MONEY THING. AND WHAT DO I GAIN IF I DON'T BE ABLE? I GOT STALLINGS ADDITION NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE NORTH OF AIRPORT ROAD. SO THE LAND ON THE SOUTH PARALLEL WITH THE RUNWAY OR WITH THE INTERSTATE 20, EXCUSE ME, ON THE SOUTH END AND INTERSTATE 20. IF YOU WAS TRYING TO RUN A A RUNWAY, THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION ACROSS WIND. 
          WHO OWNS ALL THAT LAND THROUGH THERE? YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE SIDE OF I-20. IT'S THIS SIDE. YEAH, IT'S ON THIS SIDE. I-20. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN LAND THROUGH THERE THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT A NICE CROSSWIND RUNWAY IN THERE. AND I LOOKED AT THAT THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, AND I JUST WONDERED ABOUT THAT. THERE'S A LITTLE ROAD, BUT I DON'T THINK IT GOES ANYWHERE. IT MIGHT GO TO SOME OF THOSE SHOPS OR SOMETHING, AND THAT WASN'T HERE. BUT WE USED TO HAVE A CROSSWIND RUNWAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. WHAT DETERMINED IT TO BE CLOSED. BUT THE FARTHER YOU GO TO THE SOUTHEAST, WE RUN INTO KING'S CREEK. 
          FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO. RIGHT, KIND OF TWO BLOCKED, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS TO ABANDON THAT. BUT I THINK WE CAN ADD CONSERVATIVELY, PROBABLY THREE IN SQUEEZING 400FT TO THE EXISTING RUNWAY TOPS BEFORE YOU GET LIMITED. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE OR THE PRICE OF EGGS WITH TERRELL AIRPORT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN EAGLE FOLKS, RIGHT? AND HAVE A SMALL COMPUTER LOCATION. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'LL HAPPEN THAT WAY. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT LIKE CUT OFF POINT IS 8000. YOU GOT A LOT OF 5000 FOOT RUNWAYS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF 8000 FOOT RUNWAY. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, 6000. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. I'LL GET, YOU KNOW, 20% MORE AIRCRAFT TRAFFIC. LOOKED AT THAT WHEN I FIRST GOT INVOLVED AND IT WAS LIKE, HEY, LET'S MAKE THIS THING GO. SO THE OTHER THING I SEE PART OF THE CROSSWIND RUNWAY FROM THE AIR. YOU CAN 
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STILL SEE THE THE RUINS OF OUR OLD CROSSWIND RUNWAY. WE USED TO USE THE CROSSWIND. YEAH, YEAH. YEARS BACK. AND THEY BUILT THE TERMINAL ON ONE END OF IT. TERMINAL. AND THEN. YEAH. 
          WHAT ABOUT VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING TAXIS OF THE FUTURE BETWEEN HERE AND DFW. SO IN OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WE DID IN 2023, IN OUR MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE AIRPORT THAT WE DESIGNATED THIS VERTICAL TAKEOFF, AND WE LEFT IT AS VERTICAL TAKEOFF, WHETHER IT BE ELECTRIC PLANES, WHETHER IT BE DRONES, WHETHER IT BE SOME OTHER TYPE OF AIRCRAFT THAT'S MAYBE UNMANNED, NOT NECESSARILY DRONES, BUT, YOU KNOW, CALIFORNIA, I READ AN ARTICLE THAT SAY YOU WANT TO GO TO HAWAII FROM HERE. YOU GET AN ELECTRIC PLANE, GO OVER TO DFW, GO TO AN INTERNATIONAL PLANE AND JUST MAKE IT A SMALL COMMUTER, AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC IN THE PARKING AND ALL THAT. YOU KNOW, WILL IT HAPPEN? I THINK IT WILL. 
          DON'T THEY HAVE SOME OF THAT ON TEX DOT'S RADAR AT THIS POINT? YES. I MEAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AT AN AVIATION CONFERENCE, BUT I DON'T I HAVEN'T MET ANYONE THAT'S REALLY PARTICIPATING IN THAT IN DOING IT. AND WILL THEY COME TO A RURAL AREA? WE'RE STILL CONSIDERED RURAL, BUT WE'RE OUT OF WHAT IS IT, THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE ALL PLAY A FACTOR INTO THAT. BUT I THINK WE'LL BE THERE SOMEDAY. I MEAN, YOU ALMOST KIND OF SEEING THE JETSONS COMING BACK TO LIFE. REALLY? YEAH. SO SO MAN, YOU KNOW, ONE MAN DRONE AND IT'S PROBABLY TEN. IT'S PROBABLY EIGHT FEET BY TEN FEET. AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. BUT WE'LL GET THERE SOMEDAY WHETHER IT BE OR NOT. BUT WE DO HAVE AN AREA IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND SAY MANUFACTURER DRONES OR SOME OTHER UNMANNED AIRCRAFT, WE GOT A LOCATION THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND WE'RE NOT JUST TIED TO INSIDE THE FENCE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE GRASS IN FRONT OF THE BRITISH MUSEUM, IN FRONT OF CAREFLITE, ALL THAT GRASS TO THE SOUTH, I MEAN TO THE WEST OF THE ROAD OF SOUTHERN WINGS ROAD. THAT'S ALL CITY PROPERTY. SO WE COULD SPREAD OUR FENCE. WE HAVE A VERTIPORT INDICATED ON THE MASTER PLAN. IS THERE LIKE ANY TRAINING AVAILABLE FOR DRONE, WHATEVER THAT TRAINING WOULD BE AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE? I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T THAT'S NOT MY WHEELHOUSE. YEAH. I'D LOVE TO HAVE A FLIGHT SCHOOL AND A MECHANIC SHOP. ALL RIGHT. IN ONE. IT'S LIKE A SCHOOL. 
          THERE'S THERE'S THE GUY RIGHT THERE THAT CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. HINT, HINT. YEAH. SO ALL THOSE ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS MANY TIMES BEFORE, EVEN WHEN WE WERE TALKING IN, IN ACCORDING STAGES OF, HEY, HE WANTS TO COME TO TERRELL. IT'S LIKE, MAN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS? AND JUST LIKE EVERYONE, HE'S GOT TO CRAWL BEFORE HE WALKS. AND YOU, HE'S A BUSINESSMAN, SO HE'LL SEE WHERE THE NICHE IS. BUT YES, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT. EVEN WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONVERSATION. HAS IT GOT ANY TRACTION? I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN MORE TRACTION HERE IN THE LAST SIX, EIGHT MONTHS THAN WE HAVE IN A LONG TIME, SO DON'T WANT TO JINX ANYTHING, BUT IT'S EXCITING. I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHEERLEADERS HELPING ME SPONSOR THAT, AND THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME NEAT THINGS COMING AROUND THE CORNER. 
          YEAH, NACOGDOCHES HAS A STRONG CONNECTION BETWEEN THEIR MUNICIPAL AIRPORT AND THE COLLEGE. THE UNIVERSITY, WHICH HAS A FLYING PROGRAM. THEY HAVE SEVERAL DEGREES AVAILABLE IN AVIATION AND A FLEET OF REALLY NICE LITTLE AIRPLANES THAT THEY KEEP THERE AT THE AT THE CITY AIRPORT AND RUN THEIR COLLEGE PROGRAM OUT OF THERE. IT'S A IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. OKAY TO VISIT ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISTER SNAP? MOVING ON TO BUSINESS ITEMS. 
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU CHRIS. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING UP? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE LIST FOR FUTURE MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME IN SEPTEMBER? NOTHING TO TABLE. HAVE HERE THAT OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026, 
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6:00. RIGHT HERE. AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MR. RUTLER MOVED TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND THAT. RAY. SECONDS TO ADJOURN, AND THIS MEETIN
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