Jul 21, 2026 City Council

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WOULD AGAIN, IF YOU ARRIVE LATE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SILENCE YOUR MOBILE DEVICES AS WE BEGIN

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. COUNCIL MEETING TODAY. AS YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT THE CITY NEEDS OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY TO STEP FORWARD, NOT ONLY IN PRAYER, BUT IN GUIDANCE FOR ALL OF US. AND KEEP US IN YOUR PRAYERS. KEEP THE CITY OF TERRELL IN YOUR PRAYERS. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. COMMUNITY RECOGNITIONS

[2. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNITY RECOGNITION AND EVENTS]

PERCY, ARE YOU HERE? SHERRY, ARE YOU HERE? IF Y'ALL WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. BRING YOUR.

STAFF, YOUR CREW WITH YOU. PLEASE. DEAR SHERRY, THIS IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

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AND. WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAM PROGRAMING AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASE A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS PROGRAMS ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND. WHEREAS, OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND CREATE OUTDOORS. AND WHEREAS, THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH NOW, THEREFORE, I. RICK CARMONA, BY THE VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF TERRELL AND ASK THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN ME AS WE CELEBRATE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR DEDICATED PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF AND THE ROLE THEY PLAY IN MAINTAINING OUR CITY PARKS AND COORDINATING RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HEREUNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE CORPORATE SEAL OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS TO BE AFFIXED. THIS. THE 21ST DAY OF JULY OF 2026. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME GET THIS.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO. YEAH, SURE. YOU GOTTA BE. SHE'S COMING UP IN THE BACK. OH.

THERE WE GO. OH, HERE WE GO.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE SOME FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOGNITIONS, CHIEF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS EVENING, I HAVE THE HONOR OF RECOGNIZING THE GROUP OF CITIZENS WHOSE COURAGE, QUICK THINKING, SELFLESS ACTIONS MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE DURING A STRUCTURE FIRE ON JUNE THE 15TH, 2026, AT APPROXIMATELY 4:31 P.M. TERRELL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TERRELL POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS DISPATCHED TO A REPORTED STRUCTURE FIRE AT 708 NORTH FRANCIS. BEFORE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS ARRIVED, SEVERAL

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RECOGNIZING THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION, THEY IMMEDIATELY REPORTED THE FIRE TO 911 AND TOOK ACTION TO HELP THE OCCUPANT. THE HOME WAS OCCUPIED BY SEVEN YEAR OLD RESIDENT, WHO WAS UNAWARE THAT THE BACK OF HER HOUSE WAS FULLY ENGULFED IN FLAMES. WITHOUT HESITATION, THESE INDIVIDUALS ENTERED THE RESIDENCE SAFELY, ESCORTED HER FROM THE HOME, REMOVED HER DOG AND CAT AND ATTEMPTED TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE USING A PORTABLE FIRE EXTINGUISHER.

AFTER GETTING THE OCCUPANT TO SAFETY ACROSS THE STREET, THEY REMAINED ON SCENE AND LATER PROVIDED VOLUNTARY WITNESS STATEMENTS TO POLICE. DEPARTMENT WAS THE FIRST EMERGENCY SERVICE THAT ARRIVED. OFFICERS CONFIRMED THAT THE OCCUPANTS HAD ALREADY BEEN SAFELY REMOVED, CONDUCTED A SECONDARY SEARCH TO ENSURE THAT NO ONE ELSE REMAINED INSIDE THE RESIDENCE AND SECURED THE AREA FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ARRIVAL. FIREFIGHTERS ARRIVED TO FIND THAT HEAVY FIRE CONDITIONS AT THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, WITH SMOKE VENTILATING FROM THE ATTIC, AND IMMEDIATELY BEGAN FIRE SUPPRESSION ACTIVITIES. DURING THE INVESTIGATION OF THE FIRE, THE HOMEOWNER EXPLAINED THAT WHEN PEOPLE ENTER HER HOME, SHE INITIALLY BELIEVED THAT SHE WAS BEING ROBBED BECAUSE SHE HAD NO IDEA HER HOUSE WAS ON FIRE. SHE LATER EXPRESSED HER GRATITUDE AFTER LEARNING THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS HAD ENTERED SOLELY TO ENSURE HER SAFETY. VIDEO EVIDENCE COLLECTED DURING THE INVESTIGATION CONFIRMED THEIR ACTIONS, SHOWING THEM ESCORTING THE OCCUPANT TO SAFETY, RESCUING HER PETS AND ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL THE FIRE BEFORE FIREFIGHTERS ARRIVED. THIS IS. THERE IS LITTLE DOUBT THAT THE DECISIVE ACTIONS TAKEN BEFORE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS REACHED THE SCENE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE RISK TO THE OCCUPANT. THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PLACE THE SAFETY OF ANOTHER PERSON AHEAD OF THEIR OWN EXEMPLIFIES THE VERY BEST OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL HAVE CHIEF SAMPSON TO HELP ME RECOGNIZE THESE THESE OUTSTANDING CITIZENS BY PRESENTING THEM WITH A POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT CHALLENGE COIN AS A SYMBOL OF THE DEPARTMENT'S COLLECTIVE APPRECIATION FOR THEIR COURAGE, COMPASSION, AND EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THINK WE HAVE A FEW OF THEM HERE, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE NAMES OF. DEVANTE MILTON. OMAR. VEGAS, SALCEDA, BRADLEY DAVIS, TREY WILLIAMS, DEMARCO SMITH AND JACKSON LAWSON.

FOR EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN PROTECTING THE LIFE OF AN ELDERLY RESIDENT, RESCUING HER PETS, AND ONE OF THEM LIKE TO GET ATE UP BY ONE OF THEM AND REPORTING THE EMERGENCY AND TAKING IMMEDIATE ACTION UNTIL FIRST RESPONDERS ARRIVED. SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.

WE GOT ANYBODY ON THE STREET PATROL? AS THEY'RE TAKING THE PICTURE, THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS TO FOR. FOR SHOWING THEIR BRAVERY, BUT ALSO TAKING ACTION. WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. YEAH. MARK, YOU GOT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? SO I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MAYOR RANDY TEAGUE OF THE CITY OF

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[3. HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. EMILY. SPENCER, ZAHN. SPENCER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMBERLYNN SPENCER. I LIVE AT 121 MELLEN STREET HERE IN TERRELL, TEXAS. ON THE FORM, YOU ASKED WHAT WAS THE ITEM? IT'S KIND OF A GENERAL ITEM, I GUESS I WOULD SAY OVERALL, BASICALLY ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TERRELL. I AM ALSO SPEAKING AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. WHEN I TOOK THAT OATH TO SERVE THAT COMMITTEE AND PANEL, WE WERE GIVEN OUR INSTRUCTIONS. WE WERE TAUGHT WHAT WE WERE TO DO AND GIVEN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BY WHICH WE ARE TO GOVERN. OUR ANSWER MAKE THE VOTES ACCORDING TO WHAT IS APPLIED. AND ALSO, WE DID HAVE TRAINING, AND WE HAVE A STRATEGIC FUTURE PLAN FOR OUR CITY THAT WE BASICALLY GOVERN THOSE APPLICATIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS FROM. WE ARE THEN PRESENTED WITH THE INFORMATION FROM OUR STAFF, FROM THE STAFF COMMITTEE, JANA, RAY AND CHRIS. THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN THOSE APPLICATIONS. THEY'VE RECEIVED ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO RECEIVE AND VETTED THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY BRING THEM TO US, AND THEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL DEPENDING ON WHAT IS THERE, IF

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AND WHATEVER THE SURVEY THAT WAS PRESENTED HERE, I WAS HERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE IT WAS PRESENTED THAT WE NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN THE CITY OF TERRELL. THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED HOUSING. AND I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITH THAT, THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF HOUSING IN THEIR COMMUNITY NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING. SO I THINK MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC OF WHAT THAT MEANS. ALSO WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING, WITH THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONING CHANGES. WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONING CHANGES, WHICH IS CHANGING ZONES. WE'RE NOT APPROVING A DEVELOPER'S PLAN. AND I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WITH THIS LAST GROUP OF VOTING THAT WE DID, THE CART GOT BEFORE THE HORSE, AND WE BASICALLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE APPROVAL OF CHANGING THE ZONING FROM A COMMERCIAL TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ZONING. AND SO I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING THAT WERE NOT CORRECT BECAUSE THE THE INFORMATION WASN'T PUT OUT CORRECTLY. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED A LOT OF EDUCATION TO OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEANS, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST CHANGING ZONES AND WE'RE NOT APPROVE IT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING THE DEVELOPER THAT COMES BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL, AND AT THAT POINT, Y'ALL CAN WORK OUT AND NEGOTIATE THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT OR WAYS WE WANT TO DO IT BETTER OR DIFFERENTLY. SO JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, MAYBE WE NEED A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. YES, SIR. CINDY DAVIS. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS CINDY DAVIS. I LIVE AT 1455 WATER OAK DRIVE. I LIVE IN KAUFMAN, TEXAS. STRANGE THAT I'M AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO SAY SOMETHING, SO I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK BACK AND FORTH ABOUT SOME MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS BEING BUILT IN TERRELL OVER BY THE SILVER SALOON AND THE VALERO'S IN THAT AREA. I LIVE ABOUT FOUR MILES FROM THERE, JUST RIGHT DOWN. I LIVE IN OAK RIDGE. MY CONCERN IS WHEN YOU START MOVING DIRT OFF OF WHAT ALREADY FLOODS, WE COULD HAVE AN ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WHEN HOUSING IS DONE, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT'S PUT INTO IT AND A WHOLE LOT OF STUDIES THAT ARE DONE AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND ASK THE COUNCIL IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO PLEASE, PLEASE USE MORE UPDATED INFORMATION THAN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. I'VE SEEN WATER COME OVER 34. I'VE HAD TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK A DIFFERENT WAY. THERE'S A REASON ANTS BUILD HILLS, AND THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING. THERE IS. IT'LL HAVE TO BE BUILT UP. ANTS BUILD HILLS BECAUSE WATER RUNS OFF AND IT DOESN'T DROWN THE ANTS.

I'M JUST ASKING, AS A CITIZEN WHO LIVES FOUR MILES FROM WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. DOCTOR BEVERLY BURR. THANK YOU. I'M A RETIRED EDUCATOR. I DID I DID LISTEN TO THAT. IT'S LIKE I WAS IN PRISON. I SERVED AS A AS AN EDUCATOR FOR 45 YEARS. I WORKED WITH DONNA'S MOM, AND TWO OF MY FORMER STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TONIGHT, SHANE LACROIX AND ZION. AND SO AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS WHO WERE UNDER UNDER ME AS A AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME INFORMATION. AND I'M NOT REALLY HERE FOR OR AGAINST OR WHATEVER. I JUST FELT LIKE I HAD INFORMATION I WANTED TO GIVE YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS HAS THAT. I WORKED FOR TERRELL ISD FOR 30 YEARS AND TEN YEARS IN OTHER

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YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND THE CONS ARE OUT THERE, THE CONS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AS CITED FLOODS. I KNOW THAT THIS IS PLANNED FOR, I THINK SOUTH TERRELL, THE CITIZENS THERE HAVE HAD QUITE A BIT OF INFLUX OF BUILDING IN THAT AREA IN SOME SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. I GUESS THE BIG QUESTION IS, EVERY CITY, THE GOVERNMENT'S KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ALL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ABOUT 10%. SO, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT IT AS A CITY OF ROUGHLY 22,000 PEOPLE, 10%, YOU KNOW, 800 APARTMENTS, BASICALLY, I KNOW THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS SOMETHING LIKE 458 VOUCHERS OUT THERE AVAILABLE. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT IS REALLY NEEDED, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE ELDERLY, OUR VETERANS, AND ALSO DISABLED PERSONNEL. IF WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE A COMMUNITY VILLAGE, A MORE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO WHERE OUR SENIORS COULD HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OUR VETERANS AND OUR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS, THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE GEARED FOR. I'VE SEEN THE FOR PROFIT. IF YOU LOOK AT SAMSON PARK IN FORT WORTH, THEY WENT THIS ROUTE, HAD A COUSIN THAT MOVED INTO A 55 AND ABOVE COMPLEX THAT ENDED UP BEING ALL PRIMARILY YOUTH. WITHIN A YEAR. IT WAS AN INFLUX IN A SEVERE TRAGEDY. THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MOVED IN IT WASN'T PROFITABLE ENOUGH AND BONDS CAME BACK. IF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BUILT THESE BONDS AREN'T PROFITABLE, IT'S GOING TO END UP COSTING EVERY ONE OF US. AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS A TAXPAYER.

AS A CITIZEN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT RIGHT. IF WE COULD PLEASE FOCUS ON THOSE THAT REALLY, REALLY NEED IT. AND I DO THINK THEY'RE SAYING WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE INFLUX OF THE ELDERLY, ABOUT 29000 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE UNHOUSED AND THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. SO IF WE COULD CONSIDER OTHER CREATIVE THINKING IN OTHER WAYS OF DOING THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. VANESSA STROUD. AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

VANESSA STROUD 13312 COUNTY ROAD 236, TERRELL, TEXAS. I'M AT A LOSS BECAUSE I LEFT MY NOTES AT HOME. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHO'S GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT. ARE THE CITIZENS GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT? I KNOW THAT ACCORDING

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BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT MANAGEMENT AND WHO'S RUNNING THE PLACE. AND WITHOUT THAT, YOU CAN HAVE A REAL MESS. BUT WITH THAT, YOU CAN HAVE A WONDERFUL ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I OWN TWO RENTAL PROPERTIES AND I KEEP THE RENTS VERY LOW, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY TURNOVER. I HAVE ONE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 12 YEARS. I HAVE A PROPERTY I BOUGHT 13 YEARS AGO. I'VE HAD ONE DAY VACANCY. I'M A GOOD LANDLORD. I TAKE CARE OF MY PROPERTIES. WE HAVE A LOT OF SLUMLORDS IN TERRELL. IT'S BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE, BUT IT AIN'T FIXED.

SO WE WE HAVE A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT APARTMENTS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THEY DON'T WANT TO MOW THE YARD.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING IN APARTMENTS ARE OKAY. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT MANAGEMENT AND WHO IS THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF THEIR PRODUCT.

AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE RESEARCH ON THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. CORY THORNTON. HEY Y'ALL. I'M CORY AN THORNTON. I ALSO GO BY CAT. I LIVE AT 791 BEVERLEY DRIVE, WHICH TO MOST OF YOU, IF I OFFEND YOU, I'M SORRY, BUT I CALL IT THE THIRD BEST GHETTO IN TERRELL. I OWN MY OWN HOME AND I'M FULL OF RENTAL PROPERTIES. TO TAKE TO MANY OF YOUR COMMENTS, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE BACK.

THERE'S LANDLORDS HERE WHO ARE SLUMLORDS. THEY CALL ME BECAUSE I'M IN CONSTRUCTION. THEY CALL ME TO DO THE REPAIRS, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I LEAVE WHEN THEY DON'T WANT ME TO DO THE WORK PROPERLY AND THEY FIND SOMEBODY ELSE. IT'S TRUE. SO THE MANAGEMENT CONCEPT THAT THE LAST LADY HAD POINTED OUT IS TENFOLD. THERE'S ALSO COMPLEXES THAT ARE INSIDE TERRELL THAT ARE AWFUL. THEY MOVE INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN ABOUT MOLD, ROT, BEDBUGS, AND THE NINE. SO AS A CITY, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR OUR CITIZENS. NOW, IT WOULD BE A SHAME AND I WOULD BE BEYOND UPSET FOR MY TAX MONEY, ANYONE'S TAX MONEY TO CREATE SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE BREEZING THROUGH IT. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE FACTS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN

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THE LANDLORDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE THAT ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES, WHETHER YOU SEE IT ON THE OUTSIDE, WHO DO I REPORT IT TO? CAN I REPORT IT SAFELY AND FREELY? CAN THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE IN MY SHOES DO THAT? CAN THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU BUILD ANYTHING NEW OR DO THEY HAVE A VOICE? DO THE TENANTS OF THESE PLACES HAVE A VOICE WITHOUT FEELING LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF REPARATION PROBLEM OF WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BECAUSE THEY ALL KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT? ALL OF THEM DO. I DO ROOFING, GROUND UPS, FRAMING. I'M THE JILL OF ALL TRADES. I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT EVERYTHING. I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF CONSTRUCTION FOR 25 YEARS FROM THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA IN CALIFORNIA. I ALSO IN THE EDUCATION PART. LOVE THAT YOUR HIGHLIGHTS TO WHERE THE POVERTY LEVELS ARE ARE 100% LINKED. I'VE SEEN IT AS THE CLINICAL COORDINATOR AND CLINICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AUTISM PROGRAMS FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THOSE RATES ARE NOT JUST POVERTY AND HAVING A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

THEY AFFECT THE EDUCATION, BUT THEY ALSO AFFECT THE MENTAL ILLNESS OF OUR YOUNG. IT ALL GOES TOGETHER. SO AS WE HAVE ALL THESE CITIZENS OUT. NEXT COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS ON THE FLOCK CAMERAS. SO SOME OF YOU WILL KNOW NOW MY HUSBAND IS A, LET'S CALL HIM RETIRED MILITARY EXPERT, TRAINED, AN ARMY RANGER, IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL IT BLACK OPS. THOSE FLOCK CAMERAS CANNOT BE OUT BECAUSE THOSE THOSE PROFILES ARE NOT DECLASSIFIED. YOU ARE ATTACKING VETERAN SAFETY AND MY SAFETY AS HIS WIFE. I STILL HOLD GOVERNMENT STATUS FOR MY PROTECTION BECAUSE THEY COME AFTER ME. OKAY, SO IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. IS IT FRANK MALONE? MAYBE FRANK MALONE COME FORWARD, PLEASE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE LOWER THE MIC. OH YEAH. YOU'RE GOOD. NO NO NO YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. YEAH.

I COME HERE DISCUSS THE PROBLEM OF TRAFFIC ON THESE STREETS. THESE PEOPLE GOT ONE SPEED THAT'S FAST. YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY 80 RUNS THROUGH YOU. 80, 80 WITH EVERYTHING YOU SUPPOSED TO RUN 80 MILES AN HOUR ON MOORE AVENUE. IT'S TOUGH OUT THERE, ANOTHER STREET. ALLEY. MY DAUGHTER, FRANCIS. AND THE OTHER STREET GOT A LITTLE LIGHT UP THERE. BUT THESE TRUCKS KEEP RUNNING THROUGH BACK AND FORTH. 18 WHEELERS. THEY DON'T BELONG ON THE STREET. THIS IS HOUSING GOING UP THERE TO THE SCHOOLHOUSE WHERE I BREAK. YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO SOME KIDS. SO WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. I CAN'T HARDLY GET ACROSS THE STREET ON MY SCOOTER. THEY COME ACROSS THE TRACK ON 30 MILES AN HOUR. 60, 70. SO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I WAS HERE TWO YEARS AGO. GOT WORSE. SO DO A LITTLE BETTER FOR THIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE. OKAY.

[4. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS]

SO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT AND THE HFC BOARD MEETING AFTER THAT ARE SEVERAL ITEMS RELATING TO THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS BY THE FEDERAL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. THE BONDS ARE

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IN ADDITION, THESE BONDS ARE GETTING TAX CREDITS LITEX LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS. SO THAT MEANS AT LEAST 100%. THAT MEANS 100% OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE TO ADDITIONALLY BE RESERVED FOR 80% OR LESS OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. SO ALL THE UNITS WILL BE RESERVED FOR LESS THAN MARKET RATES IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S INCOME, AS REQUIRED BY LAW. BOND TRANSCRIPTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF TEXAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEAL, AND THE BONDS WILL ONLY BE APPROVED IF ONLY WILL BE ISSUED IF APPROVED BY THE AG. THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, AS I MENTIONED, PROVIDES FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. POSTING OF THE OFFERING DOCUMENTS ON THE BONDS TOMORROW, PRICING ON THE 28TH AND CLOSING AUGUST 4TH. SO TONIGHT'S MEETING REALLY IS A CULMINATION OF OVER A YEAR LONG OF PROGRESS ON THIS, ON THIS PROJECT AND COMING FOR THE BOARDS AND NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER PRESENT TO MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AS NEEDED. IN ADDITION, THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY AND THE AGENCY ARE ALSO PRESENT IN TERMS OF THIS PROJECT. THE. WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS. AFTER ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL OR AS APPROPRIATE, THE FIRST ACTION BY THE CITY WOULD BE TO ADOPT A CITY RESOLUTION AFTER THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE AGENCY BOARD, WHICH IS ALSO MADE UP THE SAME INDIVIDUALS OF THIS COUNCIL, WOULD CONSIDER TWO RESOLUTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRUCTURE, AND I CAN PAUSE THERE FOR FOR QUESTIONS AND OR IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY, COUNCIL. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS I WANT TO CLARIFY, PAUL, FIRST OF ALL WITH YOU A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET PAUL ADDRESS THOSE THAT THOSE MAY BE ANSWERED. FOR SOME WHO WANT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THE FIRST ONE YOU SAID THERE'S NO FINANCIAL RISK TO THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. YOU SAID WE'RE NOT PLEDGING ANY OF OUR BOND CAPACITY TO THIS PROJECT. NO TAXES. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT POINT IS THERE. DO YOU SEE IS THERE ANY ANY POINT WHERE IT WILL FALL BACK ON THE CITY? TO. INCUR THIS DEBT? THIS IS ALL

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ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN COME BACK COUNCIL, YOU GOT SOMETHING. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS IS THIS THE LAST STEP? IS THE LAST STEP THAT'S BEING REQUESTED OF THIS BODY. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO PRICE THE BONDS AND THEN CLOSE THE BOND TRANSACTION. OKAY. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU PERSONALLY TO YOU FOR EDUCATING US MYSELF THROUGH THIS PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. PLEASURE. OKAY. HOW MANY UNITS CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR? THANK YOU. HOW MANY UNITS? 350 UNITS. AND THEN WHAT SIZE UNITS ARE THEY GOING TO BE? THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO, THREE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR BEDROOMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHO SPOKE? WAS THIS A DEVELOPER I KNOW? OKAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AGAIN. I WANT TO HEAR FROM JUST BE CERTAIN THAT THERE'S NO FINANCIAL RISK TO THE CITY IN THIS IN THIS TRANSACTION, CORRECT? NO. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT PAUL STATED, ONLY REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRUE RISK THAT THE HFC SLASH THE CITY RUNS INTO IS THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE HEADLINE RISK, SOMETHING NEGATIVE HAPPENS AT THE PROPERTY. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO YOU ALL FINANCIALLY. THIS IS SET UP TO PROTECT THE HFC. THIS IS CONDUITS WHAT'S CALLED CONDUITS DEBT. SO THE BORROWER, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY, IS LIABLE FOR THE REPAYMENT OF THE DEBT SERVICE. THE DEVELOPER ITSELF ALSO IS REQUIRED TO PUT LARGE GUARANTEES UP FOR THE PROJECT. THE. I ALSO MENTIONED, AS PAUL MENTIONED, THIS INVOLVES TAX CREDITS. SO LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS THAT INVOLVES AN EQUITY INVESTOR THAT COMES IN. THEY ALSO COME IN, LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS, MAKE SURE UNDERWRITTEN FINANCIALS ARE CONSERVATIVE. YOU ALSO HAVE THE DEBT PROVIDER ALSO LOOKING AT THIS TDHCA THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS STATE AGENCY THAT MONITORS TAX CREDITS, ALSO HAS A HAND IN UNDERWRITING THE FINANCIALS. SO ALL WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTIES LOOKING AT THAT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT EYES AND ENSURING THAT WHAT IS BEING UNDERWRITTEN FOR THIS PROJECT IS ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY MARKET SWINGS. AS WE KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE MARKET AND MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES HAS ITS SWINGS, AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE, YOU KNOW, PAST FIVE YEARS. SO I'D SAY FROM A RISK PERSPECTIVE, PAUL AND HIS TEAM AS WELL, COUNCIL, HILLTOPS FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THIS AND THINK THAT THIS IS TYPICALLY THIS IS STRUCTURED LIKE THE TYPICAL HFC DEALS CONDUIT DEBT THAT YOU'D SEE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO IT WOULD BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN VETTED AND THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AS A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND YOU AS TO THE HFC, THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WILL BE OKAY FINANCIALLY, THAT THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY AND ARE IN GOOD STANDARDS, STANDING WITH FINANCIALLY. YES. CORRECT. YES. YEAH. THE WE REQUIRE THE ENTITIES TO PUT UP THOSE GUARANTEES TO HAVE WELL CAPITALIZED, YOU KNOW, WE CALL IT THE THE PARTY WITH THE DEEPEST POCKETS ARE REQUIRED TO, TO PUT UP THE GUARANTEES AND ENSURE. RIGHT. YEAH. AND I AGREE. AND IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL STRUCTURE, NOT ONLY IS MY FIRM BEHIND THIS, THESE WILL BE APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THEY'LL BE BLESSED FOR STATE LAW PURPOSES. OKAY. YOU HAVE. YEAH, I'M REPRESENTING THE

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WE. I WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY WHEN ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WERE DONE AND WHEN THEY WERE DONE BEFORE THE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL SUPPORT THIS AND THAT. AS YOU SEE, THERE'S VERY LITTLE LIABILITY. I MEAN, I WON'T SAY LIABILITY, BUT FINANCIAL RESTRAINTS OR CONSTRAINTS FOR THIS FOR THE COUNCIL, FOR THE CITY. BUT THE MAIN THING IS, IS THAT IT IS MEETING THE NEED THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS HERE IN TERRELL. AND ALSO WE SAW THE PICTURES. WE'VE SEEN PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE. AND I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE SHOWN US EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR.

THEY'VE VETTED IT, WE'VE VETTED THEM. I THINK OUR COUNCIL, THE PLANNING, ZONING, EVERYTHING FOR WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CITY OF TERRELL, AS WELL AS 350 FACILITIES OR UNITS THAT ARE NEEDED RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF TARA. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY PRETTY PROPERTY OUT ON THE VERY DESERTED PART OF TOWN THAT WOULD ADD, I THINK, SOME VALUE TO THAT AREA AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY FOREIGN INVESTMENT INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT OR WITH DOMINION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANYONE ELSE? AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. 1455 WATER OAK DRIVE, KAUFMAN, TEXAS. I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL OR ANYONE WHO LIVES IN TERRELL TO THINK THAT I'M AGAINST PUBLIC HOUSING BECAUSE I AM NOT. AS I SPOKE BEFORE, I LET YOU KNOW, I LIVE LESS THAN FIVE MILES FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE BUILT. ANYONE WHO'S BEEN IN OAK RIDGE HIGHWAY 34 FOR A LONG TIME IS THIS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW, OKAY, A DIFFERENT PROJECT. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. WELL, JUST IN CASE I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND. NO. AND HEY, YOU CAN STILL SPEAK. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES AND 23 SECONDS. WELL, IF IF WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS CORRECT, BUT LET ME MAKE LET ME MAKE. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT THIS ITEM? SO IF YOU'RE NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, WE NEED YOU TO COME BACK. PLEASE.

CAN YOU CAN YOU TELL ME SPECIFICALLY? DISTRICT ADDRESS IS WHERE DID I WRITE THAT DOWN? WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF THIS? 1010 ROSE HILL, ROSE HILL ROAD. OKAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER UP. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO. TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE ALREADY. I KNOW THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT A STATE HIGHWAY AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I WORK IN 40 AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY BAD ACCIDENTS ON HIGHWAY 80. I

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OKAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. THE CITIZENS OF TERRELL UNDERPERFORMING PROPERTY. THE OTHER THINGS, THIS THIS COMPANY IS NOT FROM OUR STATE. THEY'RE MINNESOTA BASED CORPORATE OFFICE. AND THEIR REVIEWS, THEY HAVE MIXED TO NEGATIVE REVIEWS FROM THEIR RESIDENTS. THEY SCORE POORLY ON AGGREGATE PLATFORMS FROM ALL OF THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, YELP, BETTER, ALL OF IT. THE OVERALL FEEDBACK FROM THEIR TENANTS, MAINTENANCE AND CLEANLINESS, LONG TERM WAITS FOR REPAIRS, PEST CONTROL ISSUES, AND OVERFLOWING TRASH AND COMMON AREAS. MANAGEMENT FEES, FREQUENT RENT INCREASES, AND AGGRESSIVE LATE FEE EVICTION WARNINGS ALONGSIDE WITH COMMUNICATION DIFFICULTIES. STAFFING RESIDENTS FREQUENTLY REPORT UNDERSTAFFED PROPERTIES AND HIGH TURNOVER IN THE FRONT OFFICE PERSONNEL. THE COMPANY EMPLOYEES HAVE A MORE FAVORABLE REPUTATION, YOU KNOW, REPUTATION WITHIN THE COMPANY.

HOWEVER, JUST LOOKING AT CITY AND STATE AND SPECIFIC PROPERTIES, THAT WAS THE OVERALL REVIEW I WANTED YOU GUYS TO HEAR. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.2, WHICH IS DISCUSSING CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2335, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS BY THE FEDERAL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION FOR THE TERRELL FAMILY APARTMENT PROJECT. CONFIRMING THE CONDUCT OF THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AND DELIVER RELATED CERTIFICATES. AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY PAUL RYAN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND THEN WHO ELSE DID YOU HAVE WITH YOU, MEGAN? YEAH.

OKAY. COUNCIL, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RESOLUTION? ADDRESS THEM PLEASE. TO PAUL AND HIS STAFF. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE PROJECT THROUGH. I VISITED THE PROPERTIES THAT DOMINION HAD IN ARLINGTON. I WAS IMPRESSED BY NOT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A DEVELOPER THAT DOESN'T DO THE BUILDINGS FROM THE GROUND UP, BUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE RESIDING THERE. THERE WAS AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT CHILDREN GOT OFF OF A SCHOOL BUS AND WERE RUNNING TO THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. THEY HAD A WORKFORCE. I'M NOT GOING TO CALL IT A WORKFORCE COMMISSION, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO FIND A JOB, IF YOU WANTED TO GROW UP INTO SOMETHING, THIS WAS A PLACE WHERE WHERE YOU LIVED, IF YOU JUST NEEDED A LEG UP, YOU

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AND THEY'RE DISTRESSED AND THEY'RE LIVING IN CRAMPED SPACES. AND I'M LOOKING AT A COMPANY THAT SAYS, I WANT TO OFFER MORE. IS A COMPANY GOING TO HAVE ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT RIGHT? SOMETIMES, YES. ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT WRONG? SOMETIMES, I GUARANTEE YOU, BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT'S PRETTY COOKIE CUTTER AND PERFECT IS NOT GOING TO WORK. THERE HAS TO BE A GROWTH PERIOD. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS A SUPPORTER OF THIS PROJECT. THE LEARNING PROCESS OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THE MONEY INVOLVED TO GET THIS JOINT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND. I WILL NOT LIE TO YOU. IT'S DAUNTING, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN OUR COUNTY BECAUSE ARLINGTON'S ALREADY RANG THE BELL AND WON THE WON THE PRIZE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN OUR COUNTY TO SAY WE. THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT. AND BEAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IN TELLING US HOW TO DO IT, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE FUN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, THAT LEARNING THE PROCESS OF THE MONEY, THE BOND, THE THE WHO'S INVOLVED, I WATCHED A, A, A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY DO SOMETHING. I'VE NEVER SEEN A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY DO. THEY ATTEND COMMUNITY EVENTS. THEY CONTRIBUTE TO COMMUNITY EVENTS. THEY'RE OUT IN THE HEAT. THEY'RE WITH THE CHILDREN AND THE FIRE TRUCKS. THEY'RE AT THE CHURCHES. THEY'RE AT THE BALL GAME. WHEN I'M NOT AT THE BALL GAME, THERE IS AN INVESTMENT THAT THEY HAVE MADE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OTHER DEVELOPER DO.

AND I AND I LIKE THE LEARNING PROCESS. I LIKE GOING, WELL, HOW DO YOU DO THAT NOW? I'M NOT GOOD WITH THE NUMBERS. I WILL NOT LIE. BUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SHOWCASE. HOW DO YOU DO IT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY? HOW DO WE SAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, WHO LIVE HERE, TO THE GRANDMOTHERS THAT ARE TIRED OF LIVING IN A TWO BEDROOM, MOLDY APARTMENT, IN A LOCATION THAT WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED, THAT CAN MOVE INTO A PLACE THAT IS COMFORTABLE, CLEAN. AND WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY, A COMPANY THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE SEAT. THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE IT. THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE THESE PROGRAMS THAT WILL GET US CITIZENS THAT WANT TO STAY HERE. THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, WE MOVE ON.

WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THIS PROCESS THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL, MYSELF AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ASKED. AND WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE DOMINION ISSUES RELATED TO SOME OF YOUR OTHER PROJECTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT MINNESOTA. THIS IS TEXAS. AND WE HAVE PRETTY HIGH STANDARDS HERE IN THE STATE AND ALSO IN THE CITY OF TERRELL. ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM IN THIS CITY WITH THE HIGH EXPECTATIONS THAT THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL HAVE FOR YOU? YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE ON RECORD AS SAYING SUCH AND YOUR OTHER PROJECTS, THE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HAD, ARE YOU ADDRESSING THOSE? YES. SO I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN THE COUNTRY. WE OWN AND OPERATE OVER 200 PROPERTIES.

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I DO PERSONALLY, BECAUSE OF THOSE LOW INCOME PEOPLE THAT MAY NEED A LITTLE HELP OR A BOOST, OR VETERANS OR ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT'S TAKING CARE OF YOUNG CHILDREN. I NEED YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING MARKETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT HERE. YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS INFLUX OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE. WE HAVE A NEED RIGHT NOW FOR THESE UNITS IN TERRELL, TEXAS, BASED ON OUR POVERTY LEVEL AND OUR MEDIAN INCOME, A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WILL QUALIFY. YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. AND I'M NOT APOLOGETIC FOR THAT. IT'S JUST WHERE WE ARE AND IT'S THE REALITY OF IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS HOUSING. A BUILDER ONCE TOLD ME YEARS AGO, A BIG HOUSE, A LITTLE HOUSE NEEDS THE SAME THING THAT A BIG HOUSE NEEDS. AND I EMBRACE THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOTHING. THAT A BIG HOUSE HAS THAT A LITTLE HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE. IT HAS WALLS, IT HAS SEWAGE, IT HAS TOILETS. SO IT TAUGHT ME THE VALUE OF HOME AND WHAT THESE PEOPLE NEED, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE AT THE LEVEL I AM OR WHERE I AM, THEY STILL NEED THE BASIC NECESSITIES OF LIFE. AND EVEN WITH THAT, EVEN HAVING SHELTER IS IMPORTANT. EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE IN MY COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S NEEDED BASED ON OUR STUDIES, AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE DOING THE RIGHT THING IF I DIDN'T EMBRACE THAT. THE REALITY OF OUR NUMBERS AND WHAT WE SHOWED. SO THAT'S MY THING.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE TARGET OUR PEOPLE FIRST. I KNOW THERE CAN'T BE ANY GUARANTEES, BUT OUR PEOPLE NEED HOUSES AND PLACE TO GO IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AS LONG AS YOU REMEMBER THAT, I'M OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU GOT SOME? YEAH, JUST A FEW THINGS. I'M ACTUALLY NEW

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BEFORE YOU GO, MEGAN OR PAUL, SOMEBODY ADDRESS THE CONDUIT DEBT, PLEASE, AND WHAT THAT MEANS. AND SURE. SO CONDUIT, CONDUIT, DEBT REALLY IS JUST A REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION'S ISSUING THE BONDS. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A DIRECT ISSUANCE BY THE CITY. IT'S A DIRECT ISSUANCE BY THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND IT'S DOING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT. SO EVEN THOUGH IN THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE, THERE IS A MINORITY INTEREST THAT THE HFC WILL ACTUALLY TAKE IN THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S ALSO BEING DONE FOR THE PROJECT. SO AND PROJECT REVENUE IS JUST A STRUCTURE GENERALLY IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT REVENUE SUPPORTING IT, THE CONDUIT BOND ISSUE. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. Y'ALL DID A GOOD JOB. SO COUNCIL THIS IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADAM. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2335. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. SO. IS THERE A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2335. YOU HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON OUR MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO, A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FOUR TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2335 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I, I ANY OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES BOTH OF THOSE PRESENT AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND BEGIN OUR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AT THIS TIME PRESIDENT OF THE HOUSING

[Terrell Housing Finance Corporation]

CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 201 EAST NASH STREET, TERRELL, TEXAS. PRESENT ARE OUR DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, A BOARD MEMBER. OUR BOARD MEMBERS, STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, PHIL ROBINSON IS NOT WITH US BUT IS EXCUSED. WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOARD MEMBER, JORGE VARGAS, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARK MILLS, OUR DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DENISE SIMON, AND DON STILLER, SECRETARY ARE PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR MEETING. THIS IS THIS IS THE TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. DO WE HAVE ANY REMARKS FROM VISITORS? NOPE.

OKAY. THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.1. DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MEETING HELD ON JUNE THE 16TH OF 2026, THE TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING. IS THERE A MOTION ON 5.1? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING. HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, A SECOND FROM JORGE VARGAS, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FOR JUNE THE 16TH OF 2026. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I, I ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NONE OF THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 6.1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER HFC2026-05. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CREATION OF TERRELL FINANCE CORPORATION LANDLORD, LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY. HFC LANDLORD TWO. TERRELL HFC GENERAL CONTRACTOR, LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY AND HFC GENERAL CONTRACTOR. AND THIRD, TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION GENERAL PARTNER MEMBER, LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, WHICH IS HFC GENERAL PARTNER MEMBER, EACH A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THE HFC, AND THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE DOCUMENTATION EVIDENCE THE SAME IN BEING THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF AN AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT OF LIMITED PARTNERSHIP OF TERRELL LEASED HOUSING ASSOCIATES LIMITED PARTNERSHIPS KNOWN AS THE PARTNERSHIP. SEE THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF AN ASSIGNMENT OF MEMBERSHIP, INTEREST AND OTHER RIGHTS RELATED TO THE

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AND ASIDE FROM THE BUSINESS POINTS WITH THE HFC, THE CITY OF TERRELL IS ALSO ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE IS A $2.4 MILLION SCHOOL PERMIT FEE. AN ADDITIONAL 300,000 GOING TO SIDEWALKS. SO DEVELOPING THE SIDEWALKS AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT AND QUITE A BIT OF ROAD EXTENSIONS, BUILD OUT AND SEWAGE COSTS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 2.15 MILLION. SO ALONG WITH THE VARIOUS FEES THAT YOU'LL BE RECEIVING THROUGH THE HFC AND TO THE CITY, THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE ALSO BE THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL, THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO.

THIS IS ITEM 6.1, WHICH IS RESOLUTION NUMBER HFC2026-05. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER HFC 2026-05 TO APPROVE. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM JORGE VARGAS A SECOND FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER HFC 2026-05 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES BOTH THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 6.2, AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION. CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER. I MEAN HFC 2026-06, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS TO TERRELL FAMILY APARTMENTS SERIES 2026 AND TERRELL HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION SUBORDINATE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS. TERRELL FAMILY APARTMENT SERIES 2026, A TRUST INDENTURE, A LOAN AGREEMENT, A REGULATORY AGREEMENT, A SUBORDINATE TRUST INDENTURE, A SUBORDINATE LOAN AGREEMENT, A SUBORDINATE REGULATORY AGREEMENT, ONE OR MORE BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENTS, A PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, AND A FINAL OFFICIAL STATEMENT. A PRELIMINARY LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM AND A FINAL LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF DOCUMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS NECESSARY OR CONVENIENT TO CARRY OUT THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS AND OTHER PROVISIONS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH. HSC2026-06. YES, SO APOLOGIES ON THAT ONE. I DID WRITE THAT. I'LL TRY TO. I'LL TRY TO TRIM IT DOWN NEXT TIME AROUND. NO, YOU'RE GOOD AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THIS RESOLUTION ACTUALLY APPROVING THE BOND YIELD ITSELF. SO AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE TWO SERIES OF BONDS, ONE SENIOR, ONE SUBORDINATE. THE AGGREGATE. THE TOTAL OF THOSE TWO SERIES BONDS WILL BE NO MORE THAN $72.774 MILLION. THAT'S THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND ALLOCATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE STATE. THIS RESOLUTION APPROVES THE BONDS THEMSELVES AND THEN THE DOCUMENTS THAT SUPPORT THE BONDS, WHICH IS THE TRUST INDENTURE, THE LOAN AGREEMENTS, THE BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENTS, REGULATORY AGREEMENTS, OR SOMETHING TO ASSURE THAT TAXES AND STATUS OF BONDS IS A CONTRACT WHERE THE TAX COVENANTS ARE INVOLVED, AND THEN THE BONDS ARE OFFERED PURSUANT TO TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, SINCE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT BONDS. ONE IS A PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE FROM YOUR OWN BOND DEALS, A POS. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE CALLED THE LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM ALARM. SOMETIMES PEOPLE CALL IT WHEN YOU DO YOUR DEALS, YOU DO THEM PURSUANT TO LAWS. SO THOSE THOSE ARE SIMILAR TYPE OF DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS. BUT THAT'S JUST A MEANS BY WHICH THE BONDS ARE SOLD. AGAIN, THESE ARE ONLY BONDS OF THE HFC, NOT OF THE CITY. AND COLLIERS SECURITIES LLC IS GOING TO BE

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AND WITH THE HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT EVERYTHING LINES UP, THAT A WEEK FROM TODAY, WE WILL PRICE THE BONDS. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK WE WILL CLOSE THE TRANSACTION. WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YES, I BELIEVE SO. THEY'RE GOING OUT, I BELIEVE, AT AN INTEREST RATE. ABOUT 3.25 IS THE PLANNED MARKETING RANGE OF WHAT THE INTEREST RATE WOULD BE ON THESE BONDS. THE SENIOR BONDS ARE SHORT TERM CASH, COLLATERALIZED BONDS. IT'S IT'S WITH A FREDDIE TAIL STRUCTURE. SO THERE WILL BE CASH COLLATERALIZED BONDS SHORT TERM UNTIL THE PROJECT IS ABLE TO CONVERT TO ITS PERMANENT LOAN, WHICH IS WHEN THAT FREDDIE TAX EXEMPT LOAN WILL COME IN AND BE THE PERMANENT PEACE. AND IT WILL BE WHAT'S CALLED A GOVERNMENT NOTES BE ISSUED AT THAT POINT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE SHORT TERM INTEREST RATES ON ON THE BONDS ARE WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING IS ABOUT 3 TO 3. 3.25 IS WHERE THE MARKET IS CURRENTLY SHOWING. AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE. WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. CORRECT.

I'LL ALSO ADD, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE UNDERWRITERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING THESE BONDS IN THE MARKETS ALSO HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH HILLTOP. CURRENTLY I AM IN THE ROLE AS FINANCIAL ADVISOR. HOWEVER, WE COORDINATE WITH OUR UNDERWRITING DESK AT OUR FIRM AND WE ALL NEED TO BE IN AGREEMENT THAT, YES, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE MARKETING THESE BONDS. AND THEN UNTIL WE GET MY COMFORT FROM OUR TEAM AT HILLTOP, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT APPROVAL OVER TO THE UNDERWRITER THEN, AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S APPROVAL FROM THE WORKING GROUP TO ENSURE THERE'S NO OUTSTANDING ISSUES OR NO CONCERNS BEFORE WE POST THESE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AGAIN, THIS IS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER HFC 2026-06. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE HEARING. NONE. IS THERE A MOTION I. SO MOVE WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER HSC2026-06 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I, I I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES AND AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED.

SECOND. WE ARE ADJOURNED. WE WILL. YOU NEED YOU NEED A BREAK. OKAY. WE WILL RECONVENE IN THE

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

[6. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS]

CAN WE TABLE OR POSTPONE OUR. OUR APPOINTMENTS TILL OUR NEXT MEETING? WOULD THAT BE ALRIGHT? WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHO'S GOING TO BE SERVING WHICH BOARD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. OKAY. WE I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN. OKAY. BUT YES. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT, PLEASE. SO WE WANT TO POSTPONE ITEM 6.1, 6.2 AND 6.3. A MOTION FOR THAT. YES, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM 6.1 THROUGH 6.3. HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A

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[7. DISCUSSION ITEMS]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN YOUR PACKET A DRAFT FOR A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT IT'S PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE. YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THERE THE PURPOSE OF THAT. AND IT'S SO THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND ENCOURAGE INVOLVEMENT, INTERACTION AND FEEDBACK. BUT SAYING THAT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR CITY RELATED SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. ARE PROTECTED AND THAT WE UNDER THE APPLICATION THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN GUIDELINES THAT WE NEED FOR COUNCIL EMPLOYEES, CONTRACT WORKERS, VOLUNTEERS, INTERNS, EVERYBODY TO FOLLOW. THIS HELPS THE CITY PROTECT ITS REPUTATION AND HELPS US KIND OF STREAMLINE THE INFORMATION WE'RE GIVING TO THE PUBLIC. THIS IS NOTHING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM EXPRESSING THEIR VIEWS, BUT IT DOES HELP PROTECT THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE THE DEFINITION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT MAY NOT BE ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE FREQUENTLY USED. AND THEN THAT NEXT SECTION TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CITY SPONSORED SOCIAL MEDIA. WE THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAVE SEVERAL SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS THAT ARE TIED TO US, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTENT ON THOSE THAT THERE'S SOME OVERSIGHT THERE. SO THAT MIGHT BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE LIBRARY, THIS POLICY WILL JUST GIVE US A GREATER ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. AS FAR AS THE GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE. IF YOU'LL GO ON DOWN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S GUIDELINES FOR EMPLOYEES. WE WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS FREELY ON THEIR OWN PAGES. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING COULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS SOMETHING THAT IS. BEING SAID ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND SO YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF THOSE GUIDELINES DOWN THERE ON PAGE TWO, OVER ON PAGE THREE. THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES THERE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE DID LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT CITIES AND THEIR POLICIES AS WELL, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT THEY ARE KEEPING IN MIND THE CITY RELATED COMMUNICATIONS DO BECOME A PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, AND. IT IT'S KIND OF PROTECTION FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL. NUMBER THREE ADDRESSES CONFIDENTIAL AND PREMATURE INFORMATION RELEASES.

SO THAT ADDRESSES INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE FROM SOMEONE IN PRIVATE THAT YOU MAY DISCUSS DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THAT INFORMATION IS RELEASED PREMATURELY TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN ON PAGE FOUR, IT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT OPEN MEETINGS, LITIGATION ACCOUNT DISTINCTION, PERSONAL USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. AND THAT, AGAIN, TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN EMPLOYEES SHOULD USE SOCIAL MEDIA, WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON LINE DURING WORK HOURS. AND KIND OF GIVES US SOME PROTECTION ALSO FOR OUR

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WE HAVE A SOFTWARE THAT WE USE FOR OUR WEBSITE. AND SO ALL EVERYTHING THAT'S ON OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IS AUTOMATICALLY RECORDED WITH THEM. BUT THIS IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES THAT WHEN THEY'RE POSTING, IT IS A PERMANENT RECORD. AND THEN THE LAST PAGE JUST TALKS ABOUT REGISTERING AND DEREGISTERING PAGES. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO COVER. THE FINAL PAGE ON THERE IS A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY ACKNOWLEDGMENT, AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WILL, ONCE THIS IS PASSED, WE WILL DISTRIBUTE TO EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT EVERYBODY AGREES TO IT. AND THIS WILL BE PLACED IN EVERYBODY'S FILE. SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OUR LEGAL IS REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL, AND IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AGAIN ON AUGUST THE 4TH. OKAY. SO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US TO HAVE A CITY ACCOUNT IF WE'RE A MAYOR AND COUNCIL JUST FOR CITY BUSINESS, AND THEN A PERSONAL ACCOUNT FOR PERSONAL STUFF? YES. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO? I THINK, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY APPROPRIATE AND ACCURATE, BUT IF WE REPOST SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS POSTED ON THEIR FACEBOOK, IN OTHER WORDS, JUST SHARING A POST, ARE THEY GOOD? ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? WE ARE.

WE NEED WE NEED PERMISSION OR NO, I MEAN, WE, WE WELCOME YOU TO SHARE THINGS THAT ARE FROM OUR PAGE. BUT THIS IS JUST TRYING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS PERSONAL OPINIONS AND THE CITY'S OPINIONS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. I AGREE WITH THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SEPARATION THERE, BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, I THINK, IS TO HAVE A CITY ACCOUNT. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE IS A SECTION ON HERE THAT GIVES SOME LANGUAGE AS TO WHEN YOU DO THAT, THAT IT YOU WILL POST ON THERE ABOUT THIS DOES NOT REFLECT THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE VERBIAGE THERE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PAGE THAT'S ON THE PERSONAL OPINIONS. YES. YEAH.

RIGHT. OH, I KNOW THAT, BUT I SEE THAT AND PAGE THREE. YEAH. RIGHT. SECTION ONE, NUMBER ONE D AGAIN. BUT LET'S SAY YOU'RE JUST IN A HURRY AND YOU'RE JUST REPOSTING OR YOU'RE TRYING TO COPY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, MAN. I'M JUST I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN ANY. I WON'T BE DOING. YEAH, BUT I'M TRYING TO PROTECT MY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND SAY, HOW BEST CAN THEY DO THAT? BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A HURRY A LOT OF TIMES. AND IF THEY FORGET TO DO THESE VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT REFLECT THE POSITION OF THE CITY OF TURTLE ON A POST, I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE. I DON'T WANT THEM. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INTENT ON THEM DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. BUT I UNDERSTAND IN BUSY LIVES AND STUFF THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. I, I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORRIED REALLY ABOUT THAT BEING AN ISSUE. I THINK THE MAIN INTENT OF THE POLICY IS SO THAT PEOPLE DO NOT CONFUSE WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED FROM THE CITY ITSELF OR FROM A PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT OR SOMEONE THAT IS TALKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. YEAH, NO, I, I AGREE 100%. I LIKE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. I JUST YEAH, YOU KNOW, LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU, ALLISON, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. MUCH NEEDED IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE CITY COUNCIL, I'VE LEARNED FROM EVERY CITY REPRESENTATIVES, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF MEMBER, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER. THE RULE OF THUMB AT THE END OF MY TWO YEARS IS JUST DON'T RESPOND. THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY IS

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BUT THANK YOU FOR CREATING A POLICY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO GIVE US GUIDELINES THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE. WE ARE NOW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TALKING ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF HATE SPEECH AND THE FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HATE SPEECH. AND I'M I THINK I'M TELLING MY AGE WHEN I SAY, I REMEMBER, I COULD SIT ACROSS FROM SOMEONE WHO DID NOT LIKE ME, BUT WE COULD STILL HAVE COFFEE AND SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. MAYBE. BUT THIS PROJECT, THE DIGNITY.US PROJECT, IS DESIGNED TO GET PEOPLE TO DISAGREE, TO AGREE, TO DISAGREE IN A CIVIL MANNER. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOOD. EVERYTHING IS FINE. I THINK IT'S A MUCH NEEDED POLICY. OKAY I AGREE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALLISON. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS? NO, IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION. I THINK THEY'RE STILL LOOKING LEGAL'S LOOKING AT IT. YEAH. NEXT ITEM

[8. BUSINESS ITEMS]

BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THEY WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH, HAD A VERY GOOD INSIGHT, AND THEY DID TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF WHAT THEY WERE REVIEWING AND HOW THEY WERE GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE MR. GARY SMITH WITH THE BORQUEZ FIRM HERE TONIGHT. HE HAS A PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR HIS PRESENTATION. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S MY PLEASURE AND MY HONOR TO BE HERE, AND IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOUR COMMISSION. THEY WERE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH. THEY WERE THOUGHTFUL. THEY WERE DILIGENT, THEY WERE COOPERATIVE, AND THEY WERE COLLEGIAL. THEY DISCUSS THINGS AND, AND, AND WORKED TO DECISIONS. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THERE WAS ONLY ONE TOPIC WHERE IT WAS NOT UNANIMOUS, AND THAT WAS THE TERM LIMIT ISSUE. BUT IT'S BEEN MY MY PLEASURE AND THE FIRM'S PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PROJECT. AND MY HOPE IS TO DELIVER THIS 50 SLIDE PRESENTATION VERY SHORT ORDER, NOT GOING THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL. YEAH, NO, JUST HIT THE LEFT. I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN IT AND WE KNOW WHAT'S ON IT. SO JUST HIT THE HIGH POINTS PLEASE.

YES. THE THOUGHT WOULD BE I WOULD START WITH THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT DRAW MORE ATTENTION THAN OTHERS. SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, WILL WE CONSIDER THESE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY? I'M GUESSING WE WOULD. I HAVE A COPY. IS THAT IS THAT RIGHT? WE WOULD GO

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IT'S WHAT HOUSEKEEPING. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T DO THE ANNEXATION. IT'S IT'S GOVERNED BY STATE. YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW, RIGHT. FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE IN STATE LAW. BUT THESE THESE SLIDES ARE NOT A PART OF MY HANDOUT. YOUR YOUR HANDOUT ARE. PROPOSITION A THROUGH RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT THAT THROUGH. WHY. AND SO I THINK WHY IS THE EXTENSION OF BOUNDARIES PROPOSITION. WHY. OH OKAY. OKAY. SO IF YOU GO TO PROPOSITION Y WHICH WOULD BE PAGE 16 OF 17, ACTUALLY IT'S ON 17. YES. AND IT TALKS ABOUT I SEE IT AND I GUESS FOR US, FOR THE COUNCIL, WHAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO IS JUST MAKE A, A NOTE WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T. WELL, WE CAN'T MAKE. NO, I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT YET, BUT FOR YOU. SO THAT WHEN WE WHEN WE DO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT GARY SAID ABOUT IT. OKAY, SO JUST MAKE YOUR LITTLE NOTE THERE ON. THIS IS GOING TO BE PAGE 17 OF 17. AND THAT'S THE POTENTIAL CHANGE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE ANNEXATION PROCESS. OKAY, GOOD. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, GARY, ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT DON'T DON'T SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IT OR NOT. JUST QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED TO THAT ITEM FOR GARY WHAT WOULD BE NEXT, GARY, IN THE NEXT ONE IN PROPOSITION B WOULD BE THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. IT'S ALIGNING THOSE TWO, THE TWO SECTIONS THAT IMPACT THAT AND PROVIDING THE PROCEDURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IS IN USE. AND THE MAYOR NOMINATING AND THE COUNCIL SELECTING THE MEMBERS AND SETTING THE TIMING FOR DOING THAT AFTER EACH ANNUAL ELECTION.

SO THIS IS JUST GETTING OUR PROCESS UP TO THE WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY. DOING OKAY.

YES. PROPOSITION C IS ON REDISTRICTING, WHICH IS PART OF SECTION 201. SO. AND. AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER, THAT SIMPLY BRINGS IT TO THE TO THE COUNCIL TO DO THE REDISTRICTING WHEN IT'S TIME FOR TO DO REDISTRICTING OR AFTER EACH DECENNIAL CENSUS, DETERMINE THERE'S NO NEED FOR REDISTRICTING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT. HOLD

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SO WE'RE LOOKING AT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

ORIGINALLY IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO A VOTE TO REDISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE. OUR CITY VERSUS WHAT WAS THE REGIONAL WHAT WAS THE CHANGE HERE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE CHANGE HERE ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING SHOULD BE THE CHANGE IS IT HAS TO CHANGE AT THE CENSUS. OKAY. 10%. IT WAS AT FIRST WHAT, 10% WAS 10%.

OKAY. FOR. NO, I THINK THIS CHANGES WHAT WE HAD TO WHAT THE FEDERAL LAW SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE.

YES. RIGHT. YES. IT IT SAYS THAT YOU WILL REDISTRICT WHEN IT'S DUE FOR REDISTRICTING BASED ON FEDERAL LAW, FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. YEAH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO BY 10% FOR EACH CITY IS DIFFERENT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE MANDATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONCE WE DO CENSUS.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT IS. HOW ACCURATE IS THE CENSUS? WHAT IF YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE CENSUS AND YOU'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THAT? RIGHT? I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. I, I THINK YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE, WITH THE, THE, THE CENSUS DATA IS THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT CORRECT. AND OFTENTIMES IN THE CITY OF TERRELL, WE'RE OUT REQUESTING FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. AND IT'S A BIG EFFORT IN THE COUNTY AS WELL. AND FOR US TO BE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THAT. I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD SAY THAT THE CENSUS DATA ISN'T CORRECT. I'M JUST ASKING YOU, YOU'RE YOU'RE THE LEGAL. AND YOU SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO. I'M GOOD. WHAT? YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THE FEDERAL LAW AND THE STATUTORY LAW THAT GUIDE YOU ON WHEN YOU REDISTRICT AND HOW YOU REDISTRICT. AGREED? AGREED.

OKAY. WELL, IT DOES SAY IF REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE LAW. YEAH, IF IT'S NECESSARY. RIGHT. YOU MAY HAVE A TIME WHEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY. DEPENDS UPON THE GROWTH.

DEPENDS UPON THE CHANGE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING THE 10% RULE THAT THAT THIS THING SAID. SO I AGREE. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE POLICY THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW. OKAY. PROPOSITION D IS A VERY MINOR CHANGE RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE IN THE QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR ELIGIBILITY THAT THE PERSON NOT ONLY HAS NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY, BUT HAS NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME OF THEFT.

YEAH. SO WAIT, BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I DO HAVE A REQUEST. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL ROBINSON HAS SENT AN EMAIL AND ALSO SENT ME HIS COMMENTS ON. ON THESE PROPOSITIONS. WE NEED SOMEHOW DON TO GET HIS COMMENTS IN THE RECORD. DO I NEED TO DO THAT? OR CAN WE JUST TAKE THAT INFORMATION THAT FROM AN EMAIL AND INSERT THEM? HE WANTS TO BE ON THE RECORD AS EITHER

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SHOULD THERE BE VACANCIES. THE WAY YOU'VE HANDLED IT SO FAR IN YOUR CHARTER FOR THREE YEAR TERMS IS YOU PROVIDE FOR AN APPOINTMENT UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION FOR THAT POSITION. SO THIS WAS MORE FINANCIAL RATHER THAN ADMINISTRATIVE OR OTHER TERMS THAT THAT WAS THE CONCERN.

YES. OKAY. SO I'VE BEEN MAYOR FOR THREE TERMS MYSELF. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULDN'T. WE ALMOST DID. BUT. THERE'S THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT Y'ALL GOT INTO THIS DISCUSSION OR NOT. I'M ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL IS THAT TWO YEARS IS. ISN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH HIS SEAT. HER SEAT ON THE DAIS AND AND THEN YOUR FIRST YEAR, YOU'RE LEARNING, THE SECOND YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN AGAIN. AND THAT'S A CONCERN

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SO DO WE HAVE A AN AMOUNT THAT DOES ANY CAN SOMEBODY GIVE US AN AMOUNT OF WHAT AN ELECTION WOULD COST US IF WE HAD A SPECIAL ELECTION? JUST BALLPARK, BALLPARK. AROUND 7000, 7000.

OKAY. SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS ITEM, IS IT WORTH THE THREE YEARS OR TO GO TO TWO YEARS TO SAVE 7000 IN THE EVENT YOU NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY? JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. IF WE IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE TERM FROM THREE YEARS TO TWO YEARS, THERE'S NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER RAMIFICATIONS OF DOING THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST MAKING SURE I HAVE A PROPOSITION, A TERM LIMITS YOU WOULD NEED YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE. IF YOU MAKE NO CHANGE TO THE LENGTH OF STAY AT THREE, STAY AT THREE. WELL, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE'RE THAT WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S THREE CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS, NOT PARTIAL TERMS. OKAY. IT'S UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN APPLIED. RIGHT. OKAY. WHAT IS INITIAL ELECTION AND INITIAL TERMS. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FOUR LINES DOWN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM DISTRICTS TWO AND FOUR SHALL SERVE ON AN INITIAL TERM OF ONE YEAR WHEN ELECTED DURING THE REGULAR ELECTION, ON THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IN MAY 2027. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? THAT IS A SHORT TERM TO STAGGER THE TERMS OF OFFICE. YEAH. SO THAT'LL HAPPEN IF WE GO TO TWO TWO TERM TWO YEAR TERM. IF YOU GO TO 2 TO 2 YEAR TERM, IF YOU DON'T GO TO TWO, THAT GOES AWAY. SO IF I DON'T, IF WE DON'T GO TO A TWO YEAR TERM, IT STAYS ONE YEAR. NO, NO, IT CONTINUES TO WHAT IT'S ON NOW YOU DON'T YOU WOULD NOT BE CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE. BUT IT SAYS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS I MIGHT BE SHALL SERVE. AN INITIAL TERM OF THE ORIGINAL WAS TWO YEARS WHEN ELECTED DURING THE REGULAR ELECTION ON THE. THIRD SATURDAY IN MAY 2004. WE'RE CHANGING IT TO UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IN MAY 2027. MY QUESTION IS. SHALL SERVE AN INITIAL TERM OF THAT WHOLE SENTENCE RIGHT THERE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE. SO I'M USING ME AS AN EXAMPLE. I GET ELECTED IN 2024 FOR THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS ELECTIONS UP. AND THEN I'M COMING IN AGAIN. BUT IF THE CHANGE IS NOT MADE TO TWO YEAR TERMS AND YOU REMAIN THREE YEAR TERMS, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE NO CHANGE IN THE SECTION OF THE CHARTER. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M TELLING YOU I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. WELL, IT WAS IT WAS INTENDED SO THAT THOSE TWO DISTRICTS WOULD FALL IN A CERTAIN YEAR. THE MAYOR IN ANOTHER YEAR, THE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS IN ANOTHER YEAR. AND THAT WAS HOW WE GOT OUR TAROT GETS TO HAVING ELECTIONS EACH YEAR OF THE THREE YEAR TERMS. BUT CAN WE JUST SAY THAT SO THAT YOU HAVE TWO MEMBERS ELECTED ON 1 IN 2027? I THINK THE MAYOR ELECTED IN 20 2028 AND THE OTHER TO 2029, 2029.

THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL PROVISIONS SET IN PLACE, SO THAT YOU WOULD BE AT THIS POINT AT THIS TIME, BUT IT STARTED IN 2020, 2004. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST

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IT SAYS. NO, IT'S NOT THAT ONE. IT IS. NO I'M NOT I'M NOT LOOKING AT THAT. 2.07 PROPOSITION H WHAT'S IN THE CHANGE IS INTENDED SO THAT IF SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO RUN FOR MAYOR, THEY WOULD NOT BE IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIED FROM THEIR OFFICE BY THE THE CHARTERS RESIGNED TO RUN RULE. IF YOU HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM OF OFFICE, YOU MAY HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RESIGNED TO RUN RULE THAT IMPACTS YOU, BUT THAT'S. ANYBODY WITH MORE THAN ONE YEAR AND 30 DAYS LEFT ON THEIR TERM. BUT WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT SO THAT YOU WOULD NOT DISQUALIFY A QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT, ALTHOUGH THERE'S A WAY AROUND IT. MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS WAY AROUND. IT IS IN THAT SITUATION YOU WOULD WANT TO PEOPLE TO ACT AS A HOLDOVER AND STAY IN THEIR SEAT UNTIL THE ELECTION. WHICH I'M I'M I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. THE MAYOR. WHEN HE'S UP FOR HE OR SHE IS UP FOR REELECTION, HAS SOMETHING AT RISK, HIS POSITION. BUT THEN IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO RUN, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RISK BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABLE TO FALL BACK ON THEIR COUNCIL SEAT, WHICH IS OKAY. I MEAN, I DON'T I THAT'S OKAY IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, HERE'S WHERE IT WOULD COME. I THINK A BETTER EXAMPLE WOULD BE, AS I TERM OUT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE I WON'T BE RUNNING FOR REELECTION. SO ONE OR ALL OF YOU COULD RUN. AND YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAYOR OR YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HOLD YOUR SEAT, WHICH THAT'S THAT'S FOR YOU ALL TO, TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE THERE BE A MAYOR SOMETIME WHO WAS GOING TO IS GOING TO THINK, HEY, MAN, THAT'S NOT FAIR AT ALL FOR ME BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO HOLD YOUR SEAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO RUN FOR OFFICE TOO. THAT'S THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. BUT ME JUST BRINGING IT UP. DON'T DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER RIGHT NOW. SAYS THE

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WELL, MAYBE. OKAY, I GOT YOU. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND I DON'T HAVE TO RESIGN. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. HEY, THAT IS A LITTLE UNFAIR. I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT I, I, I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN, DONNA ANDERSON AS WELL. I MEAN, IF THERE, IF IF ONE OF US DECIDE TO RUN, THEN YEAH, KEEP OUR SEAT. YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO RESIGN. YEAH. IS WHAT IT'S SAYING. I, I SEE, I SEE, YEAH, YEAH. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THAT SPECIAL VOTE COMES IN RIGHT FROM FROM US. WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL. YEAH. GO AHEAD FROM FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IF, IF FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEXT MAYORAL ELECTION, YOU DON'T RUN. IF WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL DECIDE TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND NO LONGER HAVE A QUORUM. YEAH. NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.

I AGREE. YEAH, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT. SO I I'M ALRIGHT. WE CAN'T SAY, BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING NEXT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM SOMETHING ELSE. SOMETHING THAT THE READING OF THE OF GO TO THE THE MAYOR'S. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT JUST BECAUSE I'M I'M, I'M TELLING YOU I'M I'M GOING TO BE GONE, BUT GO TO THE MAYOR'S CHANGES. THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT. WHAT'S HE LOOKING AT? AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR. PROPOSITION G G YES. YEAH. YOU PRESIDE OVER MEETINGS. YEAH. THIS IS FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, PHIL ROBINSON. HE DOESN'T THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO FORMALLY LIMIT THE MAYOR FROM PERFORMING ANY ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY ALLOWED THE MAYOR TO SHUT DOWN OUR PARKS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

MAYOR SHOULD RETAIN CURRENT POWERS TO ACT ADMINISTRATIVELY WHEN NEEDED. ALSO, PHIL, WE NEED TO FURTHER ERODE THE. WE SHOULD NOT FURTHER ERODE THE AUTHORITY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS OVER CITY GOVERNMENT. THAT'S FROM COUNCILMAN PHIL ROBINSON. SO. AND AND MY DEAL IS, IS THIS AN ATTEMPT TO. PULL BACK ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR, OR IS IT JUST WHAT WHAT IS THIS? IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO STATE THAT BECAUSE YOUR COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE REGULAR ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, NOT WITH NOT WITHHOLDING THE DUTIES THE MAYOR HAS IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR EVENT OF AUTHORITY GIVEN UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE ACTING UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNOR. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. IF THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES, I THINK IT IS TO FRAME THAT BETTER.

STATE LAW STILL PROVIDES THE SAME THING. YEAH. WELL, NO, I, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, ONE OF YOU, WHOEVER'S IN THE SEAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE CITY. AND HAVE YOUR VISION AND WORK WITH THE COUNCIL TO SEE IT THROUGH. SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT MOVING FORWARD, I'M OKAY. IS THAT NOT TO TAKE ANY POWER? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T STRIP ANY AUTHORITY THAT THE MAYOR CURRENTLY HAS. YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, AMARA? MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I JUST DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE, I KNOW THAT THE THERE WAS AN ISSUE EARLIER BROUGHT UP ABOUT POTENTIAL CANDIDATE NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE DUE TO A FELONY AND OR THEFT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I DO HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT BROUGHT THAT FORWARD. THERE IS A REASONING FOR THAT. SO IF YOU WANT SOME CLARIFICATION, I'M HAPPY TO BRING THEM FORWARD AND BRING THAT BACK UP. WOULD YOU PLEASE RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. I WILL SAY THAT, AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND AND GETTING THIS TO US. THIS IS THIS IS LONG NEEDED. YEAH. WELL, WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE BEFORE IT GOES TO THE VOTERS. RIGHT.

SO WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS? I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT MR. SALAZAR WAS HERE EARLIER. HE

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TELL HIM THANK YOU. THAT'S HILLARY, MYSELF, TEAM CAPTAIN, AND I HAVE A SENT FROM THE TEAM.

ALRIGHT. WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE PLAIN SPEAK STORY AND DISCUSSION OF WHY WE CAME UP WITH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO YOU GUYS COULD KIND OF KNOW WHERE OUR REASONING CAME FROM. BEYOND THE LAW, RIGHT? THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THE TERM LIMITS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT READS AND LOOKS VERY COMPLICATED, BUT THE END GOAL IS ACTUALLY TO SIMPLIFY THINGS. WE WANTED TO MAKE IT TO WHERE OUR COUNCIL AND MAYOR WERE ELECTED ON STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS, SO THAT THE CITY WOULD NEVER HAVE TO PAY FOR AN INDEPENDENT ELECTION. RIGHT NOW, WITH IT BEING EVERY THREE YEARS, YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS ALIGNED WITH THOSE BALLOT RACES. AND WHEN YOU ARE NOT, THE CITY HAS TO PAY TO ADMINISTER AN ELECTION BY SHIFTING IT TO WHERE YOU'RE ALWAYS WITH AN UP BALLOT RACE, THEN YOU FOLD INTO THE COUNTY ELECTIONS AND DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR AN INDEPENDENT CITY ELECTION. THE TWO YEAR TERM IS THE ONLY TERM THAT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO NEVER HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION AGAIN, AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY. AND YOU MAY DECIDE THAT THAT IS WORTH IT. BUT THAT IS WHERE OUR REASONING CAME FROM. THE OTHER THING, ANDREA DID A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESEARCH FOR US. SHE WAS OUR RESEARCHER, WHICH IS VERY APPROPRIATE WITH WHO APPOINTED HER. AND SHE FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS TWO YEAR TERMS. IT IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE TO HAVE MORE THAN A TWO YEAR TERM FOR COUNCIL SEAT. YOU KNOW, IF THOSE TWO YEAR TERMS. MUNICIPALITIES HAVE TERM LIMITS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE WANTED TO ADDRESS. SO CURRENTLY YOU GUYS ARE CAPPED OUT AT THREE TERMS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM. SO WE ADJUSTED IT TO MAKE IT FOR FOUR TWO YEAR TERMS. SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS CLOSE TO THE CURRENT TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME. ALSO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS. ANY TERM. SO WHAT WE'VE MADE IT IS WE HAVE MADE IT FOUR FULL TERMS OF TWO YEARS PLUS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE APPOINTED TO FILL OUT MY RONNIE SEAT, THAT WOULD THOSE YEARS THAT YOU WERE SERVING HER SEAT WOULD NOT COUNT AGAINST YOUR TOTAL YEARS YOU WERE ABLE TO SERVE. SO WE TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR TAKING AWAY YEARS BY ADDING THEM BACK IN THAT WAY. YEAH. NO, IT MAKES SENSE. I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I DO KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW MAYOR JORDAN, HE DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS OVER THERE. HE'S TWO YEARS, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE TERM LIMITS. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE LAST LOOKED AT THE TERMS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TERM LIMITS. AND IT WAS DETERMINED THEN THAT THE THREE YEARS. SEEMED TO BE BETTER FOR THE COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, BACK THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS REALLY THAT MUCH. I THINK THE CITY RAN THEIR ELECTIONS ANYWAY. IT WASN'T THE COUNTY. SO WHAT THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DID THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS, IS IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT THE CITY NOT PAY THE 7000? OR ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE THREE YEAR TERM LIMITS? YEAH. RIGHT. NO. AND NOW I UNDERSTAND, AND IT MAKES SENSE AS TO WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT THE THEFT? WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT? THAT WAS ME. OKAY. I FIGURED THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. YEAH. SO ALL OF YOUR OTHER QUALIFICATIONS ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING A JURY JUROR. AND SO THAT IS A QUALIFICATION UNDER STATE LAW FOR BEING A JUROR, IS THAT YOU NOT BE CONVICTED OF ANY FELONY OR ANY LEVEL OF THEFT. I FEEL LIKE IF YOU CAN'T BE ON A JURY, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON A COUNCIL PERSONALLY. SO THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION. EVERYBODY SEEMED TO AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. WE WERE UNANIMOUS ON ADDING THEFT, ANY LEVEL OF THEFT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT, WE WE THINK YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT ON YOUR RECORD.

OKAY. SO RETURN YOUR MOWER TO YOUR BROTHER IN LAW. OKAY. AND MAYOR, IF YOU'RE BORROWING IT, I KNOW. WELL, YOU SHOULD LOAN OUT YOUR MOWER ANYWAY, SO YOU DON'T DO THAT. YEAH, DON'T DON'T LOAN YOUR MOWER. OKAY. I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING ON THE ELECTIONS. YEAH. COME FORWARD. YOU'RE CHANGING IT FROM THREE YEARS. ALSO, ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND IT FOR ME IS WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, VERY FEW PEOPLE VOTE. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOME SOMEONE RUNNING FOR SENATE OR WHICH IS A 2 OR 4 YEAR OR PRESIDENTIAL, EVERYONE VOTES AND WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF OUR CITIZENS VOTING FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR OUR MAYOR. I PROMOTE MORE THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF VOTING. AND I CAN TELL YOU,

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BUT WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO HAVE MORE VOTERS VOTING? AND WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, YOU ALL KNOW THAT NOBODY VOTES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE SPECIAL PEOPLE THAT WANT A CERTAIN THING. SO THAT REALLY IS THE REASON I WAS SO BEHIND IT. YEAH. MAKES SENSE. THE ELECTION, THE MORE PEOPLE VOTE. YEAH. SENATE, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THEY'RE GONNA KNOCK IT DOWN IN NOVEMBER, I HOPE. OKAY. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, SO TO THAT POINT, WE'RE ALL DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR THE MAYOR. EVERYBODY WHO VOTED WOULD VOTE FOR THE MAYOR, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOUR DISTRICT WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE GENERAL ELECTIONS. YES. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? THE QUESTIONS, THE RESIDENCY OF THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY, LET'S DISCUSS THAT ONE. WHICH IS PROPOSITION M. YES. RESIDENCY OF THE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT. IF WE WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, HE SHOULD HE OR SHE SHOULD RESIDE WITHIN KAUFMAN COUNTY. IS THAT WHAT I'M READING? YES. AND NOT WITHIN THE CITY. EXPANDS THE AREA OF RESIDENCE? NO. THE COUNTY. SO YOU THINK. OH, I'M SORRY. IT'S YOURS. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST. ARE WE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW. IF I SAY I DON'T, THE WORDING IS WITHIN KAUFMAN COUNTY. BUT IF IF IF I WANTED TO STAY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAROT, DOES THAT CHANGE WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN HERE? IF YOU DO NOT. APPROVE THIS TO GO ON THE BALLOT, IT CURRENTLY REQUIRES CITY MANAGER TO LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. AND IF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE BALLOT AND YOU DON'T PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, OKAY. NOW WHEN DO WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO. THEY'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE CALLING THE RESOLUTION AT YOUR MEETING ON THE FOURTH. YES. AND SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW BIG OR HOW NOT SO BIG TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

SO. ON THE CITY MANAGER, I GUESS MY COMMENT ON THAT WOULD BE. SHOULDN'T HE HAVE TO PAY FOR HIS OWN SALARY A LITTLE BIT BY LIVING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND PAYING SOME TAXES ON IT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND EXPAND TO MY WIFE. I'LL CHIME IN. THIS WAS NOT MY DOING. IT WAS NOT MY RECOMMENDATION. I HEARD. MARK, I THOUGHT YOU MADE THE RECOMMENDATION. IT WASN'T ME PAYING YOU A DECENT SALARY. AND HERE WE GO. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO LIVE IN THE CITY? IT'S KIND OF LIKE MY HUSBAND. HE LOVES ME. HE'S. BUT HE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. YOU NEED TO ENJOY THE AMENITIES WE ENJOY IN THE CITY. IT'S GOT TO BE SOME BUY IN. AND LIVING IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, I THINK YOU MIGHT SHOULDN'T BE THE CITY MANAGER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN TERROR. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIR POINT. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THIS RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S FINE. OUR THOUGHT WAS YOU CAN LIVE IN TERRELL AND STILL NOT LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO WE JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO RESTRICTIVE. WE KNOW OTHER PEOPLE THAT SERVE THE CITY THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEIR ADDRESS IS TERRELL, TEXAS, AND WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT TO EXPAND IT FURTHER BEYOND KAUFMAN COUNTY. WE NEED YOU TO BE HERE.

BUT WHETHER YOU NEED TO BE IN THE CITY LIMITS, OUR COMMITTEE DID NOT FEEL LIKE THAT WAS NECESSARY. SO IF YOU HAD A TERRELL ADDRESS, YOU WERE OKAY. YEAH, I GOT YOU. YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. WE WANT YOU TO PAY IN TAXES. THE MAYOR WANTS. I DON'T WANT YOU LIVING IN MAYBANK. YES.

OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER AMENDMENT THAT THEY NEED THERE? THERE WAS THE THE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING PROPOSITION WAS TO DEAL WITH. LIMITING THE TERM OF A CONTRACT

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BUT IF THE TWO YEAR TERM DOESN'T GO IN, THREE YEARS WOULD BE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED. IT WAS FOUR YEARS. THEY RECOMMEND FOUR YEARS. BUT DID WE HAVE BEFORE? MAYBE IT WOULD BE SO ON THIS ONE. YOU GOT A THREE YEAR DEAL? YEAH. NO NO NO, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU DO THE THE THING WITH THE THREE YEARS I THINK ON DOING THE CONTRACTS IS. IF YOU'RE IN THE FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY THE MANAGER OUT AND. THAT ME GETTING INTO THE NEGOTIATING PART OF IT AND HOW, HOW THE MAYOR'S ABLE TO STRUCTURE THINGS FOR THE COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER YEAR IS PROBABLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION Y'ALL WANT TO GO. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YES. HERE COMES OUR ATTORNEY. I THINK WE WOULD BE WE THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH IT BEING SHORTER. WHAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE WAS PREVIOUS, HOW IT CURRENTLY STANDS, IF WE DON'T PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, IS THAT THE CONTRACT IS INDEFINITE. SO YOU HIRE RICKY TO BE YOUR CITY MANAGER AND HE'S YOUR CITY MANAGER UNTIL THE COUNCIL VOTES HIM OUT. YEAH, WE WANT TO TO HAVE A SET PERIOD WHERE IT CAN'T BE LONGER THAN THIS BEFORE YOU CAN RECONSIDER, AND THEN YOU CAN EXTEND IT FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF FOUR YEARS, AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. BUT WE WANTED THAT FOUR YEAR REVIEW PROCESS. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS INDEFINITE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO ADDRESS. SO YEAH, THAT WORKS NO LONGER THAN FOUR YEARS. YOU COULD JUST DO LESS. BUT IF I'M A CITY MANAGER, I'M GOING TO WANT THE FOUR YEARS. YOU'LL MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO TO NEGOTIATE. I KNOW. THREE YEARS FOR THE COUNCIL. I THINK IT SHOULD BE. YEAH. OKAY. NO, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING. SO WE NEED TO FILL THAT BLANK IN IS HOW MANY YEARS WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH. IS THERE ANOTHER ONE WE NEED TO LOOK AT? SO TONIGHT. YEAH. BUT IS THERE AN ISSUE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING. SO WE'LL HEAR NO.

YOU WANT TO KNOW EVERYONE. I MEAN OKAY, NO NO NO WE'RE GOOD. YOU'RE THE COUNCIL. YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO MISS. OKAY? I MEAN, WHY DID WE DO IT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM? WELL, IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? YOU CAN JUST PERUSE THROUGH IT AND GIVE US THE SUMMARY AND WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'VE GONE THROUGH AT LEAST SIX OF THEM, I THINK. YEAH. WHERE ARE WE? THERE'S 52 CHANGES. THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, I THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. ARE THERE ANY MORE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE 52 BASED ON WEIGHT? THERE IS A LET ME LET ME SAY SOMETHING. IF IT'S NOT JUST HOUSEKEEPING. YEAH. IF IT'S HOUSEKEEPING, THAT'S OKAY. I'M OKAY. IT'S NOT HOUSEKEEPING.

OKAY. HOUSEKEEPING. THE ONES THAT AREN'T HOUSEKEEPING IS THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

HOUSEKEEPING. OKAY. PROPOSITION Q DEALS WITH POLITICAL ACTIVITY IN A IN A LOOSE NUTSHELL. NO ONE CAN. CITY EMPLOYEES SHOULD NOT BE CONTRACTED. IF I'M REMEMBERING IT CORRECTLY, AND I'M LOOKING UP, NOT DOWN AT IT. DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO CITY CAMPAIGNS, NO FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION. CAN'T REQUIRE A CITY EMPLOYEE TO CONTRIBUTE TO A CAMPAIGN. IT'S AN APPROPRIATE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES WHILE IN UNIFORM OR ON DUTY TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY. OFF HOURS ON THEIR OWN TIME. NO PROBLEM WITH THEM ENGAGING IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY. AND YOU WANT THEM TO DO THAT AS MUCH AS THEY WANT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CITY EMPLOYEE AND THEY WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ONE OF BECAUSE NONE OF THEM CAME UP FOR MINE. I'M JUST SAYING. BUT IF THEY WANT TO SUPPORT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT'S FINE. OFF DUTY, OFF DUTY, OFF DUTY.

SO NOT USING ANY CITY EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? ANY CITY, ANYTHING CONNECTED TO THE CITY ON THAT.

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NOT WHEN THEY'RE ON THEIR TIME. NO, I KNOW, RIGHT? NOT WHEN THEY'RE ON WORKING. WHEN WE'RE WORKING. HE MIGHT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART. YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO THUMB THROUGH REAL FAST. OKAY. I ALSO ADDED A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN TO THE BUDGET.

A PROVISION ON THAT IN PROPOSITION R. OKAY. PROPOSITION U IS IN ADDITION THAT THE CITY SHALL PROVIDE LIABILITY COVERAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION TO COVER ALL OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. I SUSPECT THAT MAY WELL ALREADY BE BEING DONE. I'M THINKING THE REST WE DO. WE HAVE SOME OF THAT. OKAY. SO IF WE'RE IF WE'RE DOING IT, WE STILL NEED IT INCLUDED. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE CHANGES IN. OR MANY OF THE CHANGES IN. SECTION 905. AND I'LL GET BACK TO THE PROPOSITION V. THOSE CHANGES WERE BASED ON GOING TO A TWO YEAR TERM. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO A TWO YEAR TERM, A WHOLE BUNCH OF CHANGES AT THE END YOU DON'T NEED. SO IT CAN STAY THE WAY IT IS. OKAY. AND THEN A PROVISION TO PROVIDE FOR APPOINTING A CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION EVERY FIVE YEARS TO REVIEW THE CHARTER. ALL RIGHT. AND A GENERAL PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO PROVISIONS IN THE CHARTER TO CLEAN UP LANGUAGE, TO CORRECT TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS, TO HOUSEKEEPING, TO TO GO GENDER NEUTRAL BUT NOT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, OR TO REARRANGE IT IF IF IT FALLS IN A BETTER ORDER.

WAIT A MINUTE. GO BACK. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHAT? WHAT WAS THAT LAST PART YOU SAID ON THAT? ON REASONS TO DO WHAT TO MAKE TO REARRANGE THE PROVISIONS IN THE CHARTER, IF THEY WOULD FIT MORE LOGICALLY IN A DIFFERENT ORDER. ALL RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE ANYBODY, ANYTHING? I WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE VOTERS. DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST READ THEM? YES, YES. OKAY. SO WAIT, THAT WAY WE KNOW. YEAH. RIGHT HERE. HERE'S WHAT I PROPOSE WE DO. I HAVE YOUR HAND OUT IN FRONT OF ME, AND WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE AND WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO. AND IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS OR COMMENTS, LET ME THANK YOU. SO PROPOSITION A IS CONSTRUCTION AND MEANING. THIS IS THE ONE THAT HE JUST ADDRESSED THAT WILL AUTHORIZE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NON-SUBSTANTIVE CORRECTIONS TO THE CHARTER, RENUMBER AND REARRANGE THE PROVISIONS. BUT IT CANNOT HAVE ANY ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER ITSELF. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK A LEGAL. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON EACH ONE OF THESE, OR CAN WE TAKE THEM ALL THE

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I THINK THE WAY TO UNDERSTAND IT IS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT THEY CAN BE ON THE BALLOT WHETHER OR NOT TO PUT THEM ON THE BALLOT. AND THAT'S THE QUESTION. YES. ALRIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE LEGAL WHEN, WHEN IT GOES TO AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AND IT COMES BACK TO US. SO AS PROPOSITION A, THIS IS DO WE WANT IT TO MOVE FORWARD AND GO TO. THE BALLOT AND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE WILL COME BACK TO US LATER AT. WHEN. AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE AND WE'LL VOTE AGAIN. OR WILL WE JUST YOU NEED A VOTE TODAY. WE'LL BE WE'LL BE CALLING THE ELECTION AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE IN A IN A RESOLUTION. OKAY. AND YOU JUST NEED DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE LANGUAGE. ARE THEY GOING ARE RESIDENTS GOING TO LOOK AT THESE INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A WHOLE INDIVIDUALLY? EACH ONE? YES. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN. BY ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN. RIGHT. TRY TO KEEP THE ISSUES SEPARATE. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO FORCE SOMEBODY TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING, THEREFORE TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING THEY'RE AGAINST, RIGHT. OR TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THEY DON'T LIKE? YES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. I WILL JUST CLARIFY. THE POWERPOINT HAD 52 SLIDES, BUT I THINK THERE ARE 24 PROPOSITIONS BEFORE YOU. SO IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL 24, ALL OF THE 24 WILL BE ON THE BALLOT INDIVIDUALLY FOR THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON. RIGHT. THE ONES THAT YOU PROPOSE TONIGHT NOT TO INCLUDE ON YOUR NEXT ON THE AGENDA FOR ON THE AUGUST 4TH RECALL FOR ELECTION. THOSE WILL NOT BE OR CALL FOR ELECTION. THOSE WILL NOT BE ON THERE. SO TONIGHT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DECIDING WHAT YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE VOTERS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. GOT IT. AND IF COUNCIL IS AGREEABLE, WHAT I SUGGEST WE DO IS WE GO THROUGH THE PROPOSITIONS AND YOU ALL CAN DESIGNATE WHICH ONES YOU DO NOT WISH TO INCLUDE. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE TO THE END, YOU MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPROVE THE PROPOSITIONS, EXCLUDING THE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE OR AMENDING THE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE. CAN THAT CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN SO NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EACH ONE'S LANGUAGE AND, AND SEND IT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THE LANGUAGE OF EACH ONE. YOU'RE GOING TO LET US GIVE DIRECTION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION THIS EVENING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MOVING FORWARD TO THE ELECTION. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE INCLUDED WITH THE FOR EACH PROPOSITION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT ONLY THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. LET ME LOOK AT THIS. SO THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA. IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THEM WHOLE. YES. AND THEN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO LET'S START WITH THE ONES THAT WE DO NOT WANT OR THAT. OR DO WE WANT TO RUN THROUGH THEM? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BECAUSE WE WON'T KNOW. YES. WELL, BUT AGAIN, IS IT GOING TO TAKE A VOTE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM OR WE WE CAN JUST SAY YES, THUMBS UP.

LET ME KNOW. THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN. AND WHEN WE GET TO THE END, YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND DESIGNATE THOSE ITEMS YOU WISH TO EXCLUDE OR AMEND. AND EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. YES. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT LEGAL OR LEGAL TEAM. YOU CAN DO THAT.

OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY, THEN. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. OKAY. LET THE GAMES BEGIN. AND THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING AGAINST DONNA RENEE ANDERSON OR MAYOR PRO TEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERED. OKAY? ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD MARK. PROPOSITION EIGHT WAS THE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THAT WE JUST COVERED. BASICALLY NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES. RENUMBERING, REORDERING ALLOWED.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUE? NO. PROPOSITION B IS THE MAYOR PRO TEM THE APPOINTMENT OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. IF APPROVED, THERE SHOULD BE CITY COUNCIL OF FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR SHALL BE ELECTED, BE QUALIFIED BY THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY AT LARGE. THE CHANGE IS. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL SELECT ONE OF THEIR OWN MEMBERS TO ACT AS MAYOR PRO TEM AND ONE TO ACT AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, FOLLOWING THE CANVASING OF THE ELECTION, EACH REGULAR. AFTER EACH MUNICIPAL ELECTION, WHICH IS HOW WE'RE DOING IT CURRENTLY, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ANYBODY

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BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON REDISTRICTING YET, WE'RE STILL ON B, WHICH IS THE MAYOR PRO TEM MAYOR PRO TEM, YES. SO I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE THIS ISN'T SAYING THAT WE'RE ROTATING DISTRICT ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR ON A REGULAR BASIS. THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE MAYOR NOMINATED BY THE MAYOR. AND THEN. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. C IS THE REDISTRICTING OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS. OKAY? ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTION ON THAT? AND THAT ALLOWS YOU ALL TO DO THE REDISTRICTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE US CONSTITUTION. CORRECT? OKAY. FOLLOW STATE LAW AND FEDERAL LAW. SO WE WERE GOOD WITH A WE WERE GOOD WITH B, GOOD WITH C, WE'RE GOOD WITH C. PROPOSITION D IS THE ELIGIBILITY FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS THE ONE THAT INCLUDES THE FELONY OR A THEFT CRIME. CAN WE GO BACK AND SAY DID WE SAY YES TO PROPOSITION C? YES. OKAY. THE DISTRICT. WELL, THE MAJORITY ARE OKAY. YEAH. WE DIDN'T SAY IT, BUT IT ALLOWED THE REDISTRICTING. OKAY. I'M JUST MARKING MY PAPER. YES, MA'AM. D D WAS THE ELIGIBILITY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT INCLUDED THE LANGUAGE FOR A THEFT CRIME. SO. COUNCIL, I THINK I THINK THE ISSUE WAS ADDING THEFT. I JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED 30 YEARS AGO. WHEN A KID IS A KID IN A CANDY STORE, I JUST DON'T WANT NOTHING LIKE THAT. SO THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MAYBE I'M JUST BEING DISQUALIFY SOMEONE, CHEAT ON HIS WIFE. HE'S A THIEF LIKE HE'S CHEATING. HE'S STEALING SOME STUFF. SO. BUT EVERYBODY DON'T VIEW THAT THAT WAY. BUT I DO, I JUST THAT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO SWALLOW. IF IF SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING FOOLISH AS A KID IN A CANDY STORE OR AND IT DISQUALIFIES THEM IF THEY'RE UPSTANDING OUT, YOU KNOW, GREAT CITIZEN NOW WORKING, DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE EXCLUDED BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. YEAH. POINT TAKEN. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND AFTER TALKING TO THE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. WELL, AFTER TALKING TO YEAH, HILLARY COME FORWARD. BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND IT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO OR NOT. LET ME PUT ON MY OTHER HAT AND GIVE YOU SOME PENAL CODE DEFINITIONS. SO THIS WOULD BE ADULT MEANING 17 OR OLDER CONVICTIONS FOR THEFT. SO CLASS C ALL THE WAY UP TO FELONY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR. BUT IT WOULD BE ADULT FINAL CONVICTIONS. SO IF THEY GOT PUT ON PRETRIAL DIVERSION OR THEY SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED DEFERRED AND THEY NEVER GOT A CONVICTION IN THEIR CASE GOT DISMISSED, THAT WOULD NOT COUNT AGAINST THEM. THIS IS ONLY IF IT IS ON YOUR PERMANENT ADULT RECORD AS A THEFT OF ANY LEVEL THAT HELPS. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANY ANY REASON TO VOTE, RIGHT.

THEY CAN STILL VOTE ON THE GENERAL ELECTION, STILL VOTE, STILL VOTE. I DON'T SEE WHY VOTE. OKAY, SO THE POINT FOR COUNCILMAN IS IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO VOTE, YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RUN. YES, YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A CHANCE. NO, I MEAN, ALL WE NEEDED. SO IF WE STRUCK THE THE THE THEFT CRIME. IF YOU STRIKE THEFT, CRIME, THE PROPOSITION D WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. OKAY, OKAY. SO I DON'T HEAR A SUPPORT OF THAT. NEXT. E IS THE TERM OF OFFICE IN THE INITIAL ELECTIONS. THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD TO DO WITH MOVING FROM A THREE YEAR TERM TO A TWO YEAR TERM, AND THEN THE REALIGNMENT OF THE ELECTIONS. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY

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AN AUTOMATIC RESIGNATION. BUT THE CHANGE THEREFORE, DOES NOT REQUIRE A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO RESIGN THEIR POSITION TO RUN FOR MAYOR OR A PLACE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT IF THEY DO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN INDIVIDUAL DECIDES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY JUDGE OR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO STEP DOWN. OKAY. THE MAYOR IS, OR ANY COUNCIL, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S RUNNING FOR AN OFFICE THAT'S NOT MAYOR OR MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT, I FEEL GOOD. TO ADD TO IT. RIGHT. PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. YES. YEAH. NO, THESE WE'RE NOT MAKING THE DECISIONS. IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE RESIDENTS. YES, YES. THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THEM. OKAY. SO THAT WAS H. I IS POSTING OF THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. THIS IS REALLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEM THERE. IS IT ALREADY LIKE THIS? WE ALREADY POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. WE ALREADY WE ALREADY PUT IT AT THE LIBRARY.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS. THIS MAKES IT CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW. OH, OKAY. SO THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE. YEAH. NOTICE OF MEETINGS. THIS IS PROPOSITION J. TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DAYS, THREE FULL BUSINESS DAYS OF NOTICE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC MEETING. THIS IS AGAIN, THIS IS A CHANGE TO STATE LAW. I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN ROBINSON HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THIS, BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS ESSENTIALLY SETS US BY CHARTER TO BE EQUAL TO WHAT THE STATE LAW IS, WHERE IT'S THREE FULL BUSINESS DAYS, AND YOU DON'T GET TO COUNT THE DAY THAT YOU POST IT OR THE DAY OF THE MEETING. SO THERE HAS TO BE THREE FULL BUSINESS DAYS BETWEEN. IT'S WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. IN FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY POSTING A FULL WEEK IN ADVANCE. AND THAT WOULD BE WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT THIS BASICALLY ALIGNS THE POSTING REQUIREMENT WITH WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE. SO ROBINSON SAYS HE PREFERS TO HAVE A LONGER PERIOD OF REVIEW, HAVING MEETINGS ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS. HE HAS A WEEK. HE HAS A WEEK TODAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND ANY ANY FURTHER THAN A WEEK, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT FOR STAFF. OKAY. IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

NEITHER THE MAYOR NOR MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE EXCUSED FROM VOTING, EXCEPT ON MATTERS INVOLVING THE CONSIDERATION OF MEMBERS OF SUCH MEMBER'S OWN OFFICIAL CONDUCT, OR WHERE SUCH MEMBER HAS A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST, AS DEFINED BY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT ABSTENTION. SHOULD A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSE TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING

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MUNICIPALITY BEFORE IT'S. CAN I, CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE DID DID Y'ALL REVIEW THIS? ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT I. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHY IS IT INFORMATION YOU ABSTAIN VERSUS.

ESSENTIALLY, I BELIEVE WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS IF YOU. YOU CAN ABSTAIN FOR A TRUE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. BUT IF YOU ABSTAIN JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, YOUR VOTE WILL BE COUNTED AS A AS A FOR VOTE, THAT YOU CANNOT ABSTAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE. I THINK WE HAD THAT ISSUE A COUPLE OF TIMES AT PLANNING AND ZONING. WHERE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE, THAT IT DECIDES IF YOU WANT TO. SO IT'S GOING TO FORCE YOU TO GO VOTE NO. IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING, RATHER THAN BEING NEUTRAL. YEAH. IT'S MAKING PEOPLE YES OR NO.

CORRECT. IT'S KIND OF IN OUR CHARTER CURRENTLY REQUIRES THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FOR SOMETHING TO PASS. SO THIS THIS ESSENTIALLY AVOIDS SOMETHING FAILING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES BECAUSE SOMEBODY CHOSE TO ABSTAIN FOR FOR A REASON OTHER THAN A CONFLICT. AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU HAVE CONFLICT AND YOU HAVE, THEN YOU CAUSE YOU DECLARE IT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ABSTAIN. OKAY. ARE Y'ALL YES OR NO? YEAH. I'M GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. MAJORITY SAYS YES. OKAY. THAT WAS J. K IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST. WE JUST. I'M SORRY. WE JUST DID K.

J WAS WE DID J AND K. OKAY. SORRY. I WAS ONE BEHIND. PROPOSITION L IS THE SINGLE READING OF AN ORDINANCE. CURRENTLY, WE WE REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE TO BE READ TWICE.

THIS WOULD DO AWAY WITH THAT REQUIREMENT. ARE THERE SOME INSTANCES IN WHERE A SECOND READING IS REQUIRED? STATE LAW WHEN THIS WOULD SAY OTHERWISE, UNLESS OTHERWISE, UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER OR BY STATE LAW, ORDINANCES MAY BE ADOPTED ON A SINGLE READING. IF THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IT IS, THEN THE STATE LAW WILL TRUMP. OKAY.

ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT? I'M GOOD. OKAY. M IS RESIDENCY OF THE CITY MANAGER. I DIDN'T DO THAT ONE. THAT'S NOT ME. I PROMISE. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY SUPPORT FOR THAT. NO.

AND IS THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE CITY MANAGER BEING FOUR YEARS AND ALL THIS AGAIN NEGOTIATING. KIND OF PUT THE THE MAYOR WHO NEGOTIATES THE CONTRACTS FOR THE CITY MANAGER MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT WHEN HE CAN COME TO YOU AND SAY, YEAH, BUT YOUR CHARTER SAYS FOUR. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO HOLD OUT FOR FOUR. OF COURSE, OF COURSE, HE MAY NOT BE THE CITY MANAGER.

AND IF I'M NEGOTIATING. BUT YOU DO WRITE. YOU CAN MAKE IT FROM 1 TO 3. IT JUST SAYS YOU CAN'T MAKE IT LONGER THAN FOUR WITHOUT COMING BACK. OKAY. WELL, OR YOU COULD DO NO LESS THAN THREE YEARS. AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO NEGOTIATE MORE, YOU COULD. I THINK YOU GOT MORE WIGGLE ROOM THAN LESS THAN FOUR. MORE WIGGLE ROOM. CAN'T GO TO. WELL, I AIN'T GOING TO HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ANYMORE. IT'S Y'ALL. YOU NEED TO. GOOD LUCK. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN. Y'ALL WANT THAT? YEAH. OKAY. NO. I'M DONE. OKAY. SO THERE'S A YES THERE. YES. THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WHAT WAS THE ONE WITH THIS ONE? OH, LET ME SEE WHAT ROBINSON SAID.

JUST A MINUTE. M WAS HE PROBABLY. OH, THIS ONE WAS A SINGLE READING OF AN ORDINANCE.

GEE, I MEAN, THAT WAS A WHAT WAS M? MARK M WAS THE RESIDENCY OF THE CITY MANAGER, AND IT WAS AN. OKAY. THERE'S A TAG ALONG ON IN SECTION 5.1. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE SURETY BONDS. CITY MANAGER BE COVERED BY SURETY BOND CURRENTLY REQUIRES ALL DEPARTMENT

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DON'T YOU. YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, RIGHT. THE CITY DOES. OKAY. IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED. WE GOTTA PUT THAT IN THERE. OKAY. DEMANDS FOR THE MANAGER. AND THAT WAS IN. OH, IS CITY ATTORNEY. TALKS ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL BY MAJORITY VOTE. OF AN ATTORNEY LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THE APPOINTMENT MAY BE MADE UPON RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THE SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IN THERE IS THAT IT MAY BE AN INDIVIDUAL ATTORNEY. IT MAY BE A FIRM CITY COUNCIL DISCRETION LIKE THAT. THERE. OKAY. AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO RETAIN SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL. SO, OKAY. OKAY. P IS JUDGE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT. THIS CHANGES IT SO THAT THE JUDGE MAY BE REMOVED AT ANY TIME BY A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW? MAJORITY. IT'S A MAJORITY VOTE. OKAY. YEAH. Q PROHIBITING EMPLOYEES FROM CERTAIN POLITICAL ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE DISCUSSED. YES. OKAY. OH, DID ARE WE SAYING PUT IT ON THE BALLOT? YES. DID I READ THAT THE COUNCILMAN'S OKAY? ALRIGHT. OKAY. BUT AS LONG AS IT'S AFTER WORK. YEAH, SURE. YES. NO. Q. OH, YES. PUT IT. I'LL SEND IT. YES. OKAY. ARE IS THE CAPITAL INCLUSION OF A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET. FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN REQUIRE IT OR NOT. WE'RE GOING TO END UP DEVELOPING 5 TO 10 YEAR CAPITAL PLANS AND PROVIDING THOSE TO YOU. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO REQUIRE IT BY CHARTER. OKAY. YES. ARE. S IS BUDGET AMENDMENT.

ESSENTIALLY, WHEN YOU AMEND THE BUDGET, IT'S INCLUDED THAT WHATEVER PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO ADOPT THE BUDGET, INCLUDING PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU HAVE TO HOLD THE SAME PUBLIC HEARINGS AND GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS TO AMEND THE BUDGET. DOES THAT PUT A STRAIN ON CITY STAFF? NO, BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY DO ONE AMENDMENT. WHEN WE WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET, WE AMEND THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, WHEN WE ADOPT THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, AND WE DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT REALLY ISN'T AN ISSUE. AND IF WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT, MID-YEAR AMENDMENT, THEN I THINK IT'S ONLY APPROPRIATE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT IT'S DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC. OKAY. GOOD, GOOD. PROPOSITION T IS FILING OF THE BUDGET REQUIRES THAT WE PUT A COPY OF THE BUDGET AT THE LIBRARY AND POST IT ON THE WEBSITE. OKAY. YOU IS LIABILITY COVERAGE. THIS IS THE MILLION DOLLARS. THE CITY SHOULD PROVIDE LIABILITY COVERAGE OF AT LEAST $1 MILLION FOR OFFICIALS AND OFFICERS. THE COVERAGE PROTECTS AGAINST CLAIMS OF ERROR, NEGLIGENCE, BREACH OF DUTY, MISSTATEMENTS MADE DURING THE DISCHARGE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES. SO WHAT DO WE KNOW? WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE ON OUR BUDGET IF WE DO THAT, IF WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY DOING IT, OR ARE WE CURRENTLY DOING IT? IT'S ALREADY IT SHOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON NO IMPACT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. Y'ALL GOT ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? OKAY. PROPOSITION V IS FILING FOR A PLACE ON THE BALLOT. COUNCIL BALLOTS AND RUNOFFS. TALKING ABOUT CITY COUNCIL SHALL FILE WITH CITY SECRETARY DESIGNATED FOR PLACE ON THE BALLOT PROVIDED BY CHAPTER 143 OF THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE. RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS AT LEAST 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION.

THIS ALIGNS IT WITH STATE LAW. OKAY. AND THEN IT STRIKES THE 9.03 COUNCIL BALLOTS. OKAY. AND

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SO WHAT'S WHAT IS 903 COUNCIL BALLOTS? IT WAS NOT STRUCK. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STRUCK.

THAT'S IF THERE'S A TIE ON, THE VOTE SHALL BE RESOLVED. YES. ARE WE LOOKING AT THE WAS DEALING WITH THE TIME OF PREPARING THE BALLOTS RIGHT. INSTEAD OF 20 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHICH REALLY WON'T GET YOU TO ANY ELECTION ANYMORE? REALLY? IT'S THE LAST SENTENCE.

IT SAYS THE ORDER OR THE NAMES OF THE BALLOTS SHALL BE DETERMINED BY LOT. THE OFFICIAL BALLOT SHALL BE PRINTED NOT LESS THAN 20 DAYS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE ELECTION, AND THAT'S BEING CHANGED TO 60. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THE ELECTIONS AND DECLARING THE RESULTS BASICALLY BRINGS IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH TEXAS ELECTION CODE. PROPOSITION W IS FIRE LIMITS. MAY ESTABLISH FIRE LIMITS, PRESCRIBE THE KIND AND CHARACTER OF STRUCTURES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ERECTED WITHIN SUCH LIMITS AS AUTHORIZED UNDER CHAPTER 342 TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AS IT MAY BE AMENDED. SO ESSENTIALLY BRINGING THE FIRE LIMITS WITH IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, INSTEAD OF PUTTING OUR OWN RESTRICTIONS ON IT. AND THEN PROPOSITION X IS AMENDING THE CHARTER. THIS IS THE NOT LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE CHARTER, INCLUDING HOLDING PUBLIC HEARINGS, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND CITY COUNCIL FOR POSSIBLE SUBMISSION OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE VOTERS THAT THE COMMISSION SHALL BE MADE UP OF QUALIFIED VOTERS FROM ALL DISTRICTS OF THE CITY. SO LET'S. THE FIRE LIMITS. YES, WE STILL FOLLOW STATE AND FEDERAL LAW. THIS REQUIRES US TO FOLLOW CHAPTER 342 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE W OR X? NO, NO. OKAY. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE END. SO IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE BALLOT. AND I'M ATTORNEY CAN FIX MY LANGUAGE. HOWEVER, WE NEED TO FIX IT WITH THE EXCLUSION OF PROPOSITION D, E, F, AND M. YEAH. SO WHAT WE NEED IS A. RECOMMENDATION OR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS EXCLUDING D, E, F AND M, RIGHT. CORRECT. YES. I HAD DEFM AND AND NDEF AND M WHAT'S N DID YOU SAY M OR NMMDEF AND M YES. OKAY. NOW WHAT I SAID OKAY. AND WAS THE TERM OF THE CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT. M WAS THAT'S N AS IN NANCY. OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE. M IS THE RESIDENCE OF THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS WHAT WE PULLED. M AS IN MARY, M AS IN MARY, AND AS IN NANCY. IS THE CITY MANAGER'S FOUR YEAR TERM.

FOUR YEAR. AND THE ONES THE OTHER ONES WE'RE EXCLUDING, SINCE I'M GOING THROUGH IT. D IS THE ELIGIBILITY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHICH WAS THE THEFT CRIME THAT WAS REMOVED.

AND THEN E WAS THE TERM OF OFFICE AND INITIAL ELECTIONS THAT WAS MOVING FROM THE THREE YEAR TERM TO A TWO YEAR TERM. F WAS THE TERM LIMITS, MOVING FROM A 3 TO 3 TERMS TO FOUR TERMS, WHICH WAS RENDERED UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE DECLINING TO MOVE FORWARD.

PROPOSITION E AND THEN M WAS THE CITY MANAGER CONTRACT TERM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO. APPROVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, EXCLUDING D, E, F AND M. IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE TERROR

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IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE MAYOR DO THAT. I GOT A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO, A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FOUR TO APPROVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NOT TO INCLUDE D, E, F AND M. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK OUR REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THEIR HARD WORK. THANK YOU AMARA. THANK YOU FOR OVERSEEING THAT. AND YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR BEING THERE FOR THEM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE RESIDENTS IN THIS THE CITIZENS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL THIS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. OH, AND DON, SHE'S ALWAYS I KNOW SHE'S ALWAYS INVOLVED. THANK YOU. DON. ALRIGHT. YOUR FAULT. IT'S YOUR FAULT, TOM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. ALL THOSE PRESENT OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE EXXON PURCHASE AND DEPLOYMENT STRATEGY. ARLEIGH. MR. MAYOR, YES, YES, YES, MY APPRECIATION FOR THE COMMITTEE AND HOW WELL THEY WORKED. WELL THANK YOU. OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THEM AND FOR HOW Y'ALL HAVE HANDLED THIS TONIGHT. IT WAS IT WAS A TEDIOUS SUBJECT. I APPRECIATE THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THAT GUY HE CAN'T DO THAT. ALRIGHT, DARLING. IN 2024, WHEN I BECAME YOUR APPOINTED POLICE CHIEF, THE DEPARTMENT'S ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT HAD A BALANCE OF ABOUT $65,000. THAT BALANCE HAS BEEN REDUCED SLIGHTLY DUE TO SEVERAL PURCHASES THAT I WAS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE WHILE SERVING AS THE DEPUTY CHIEF IN 2022 AND AS YOUR INTERIM CHIEF IN 23 TODAY, I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THROUGH THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF OUR PERSONNEL AND SOUND FISCAL MANAGEMENT, THE ACCOUNT BALANCE HAS GROWN TO APPROXIMATELY $290,400. THIS INCREASE IS THE RESULT OF NUMEROUS SUCCESSFUL ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, INCLUDING MANY SMALLER CASH SEIZURES RANGING FROM SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS TO SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, AS WELL AS TWO SIGNIFICANT CASH ASSET SEIZURES WITHIN THE LAST 14 MONTHS. THIS ACHIEVEMENT REFLECTS THE COMMITMENT, PROFESSIONALISM, AND TEAMWORK OF THE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS A COMMAND STAFF, WE WORKED HARD TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP, DIRECTION AND RESOURCES TO OUR PERSONNEL, AND OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE CONSISTENTLY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS IN MULTIPLE AREAS. WE HAVE ALSO STRENGTHENED THE PARTNERSHIPS AND EXPANDED COOPERATIVE EFFORTS, INCLUDING A NEGOTIATED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND PARTICIPATION IN MULTI-AGENCY JOINT TASK FORCE THAT CONDUCTED SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONS BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OUR RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS. THESE RELATIONSHIPS, PARTNERSHIPS, AGREEMENTS, AND THE EXCEPTIONAL WORK OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ARE WHAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE. WITHOUT THOSE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR OFFICERS AND STAFF WHO INVESTED THE TIME, EFFORT AND COMMITMENT REQUIRED. THESE FUNDS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TODAY FOR REINVESTMENT INTO THE DEPARTMENT. THEY WORKED HARD. THEY ANSWERED THE CALL, AND THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT. NOW IT'S TIME TO REINVEST THOSE RESOURCES BACK INTO OUR OFFICERS AND TO THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. ALSO, IN 2024, I COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE DEPARTMENT WIDE ACCESS TO INTERMEDIATE USE OF FORCE OPTIONS AS SOON AS IT BECAME FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. THROUGH RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT OF OUR RESOURCES AND THE SUCCESS OF OUR ASSET FORFEITURE PROGRAM, THAT GOAL IS NOW ACHIEVABLE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO PURCHASE 18 AXON TASER SEVEN PACKAGES, INCLUDING DEVICES, BATTERIES, CARTRIDGES, SOFTWARE TRAINING AND A FIVE YEAR WARRANTY AT A TOTAL COST OF 92,590 773. THIS PURCHASE WILL BE FUNDED ENTIRELY THROUGH ASSET FORFEITURE AWARD FUNDS, AND WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE FISCAL 26 YEAR OPERATING BUDGET. BECAUSE THIS PURCHASE IS AN EXPANSION OF EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES ALREADY UTILIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT, NO ADDITIONAL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS APPLY. THIS INVESTMENT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE OFFICER ACCESS TO INTERMEDIATE FORCE WEAPONS, ENHANCE OFFICER SAFETY, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO ASSIST OFFICERS IN RE SOLVING ENCOUNTERS SAFELY AND MORE EFFECTIVELY. ADDITIONALLY, THROUGH THE COORDINATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, INDIVIDUAL TASER SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE NEW OFFICER BUILD ESTIMATOR. THIS ENSURES THAT AS WE RECRUIT, HIRE, AND EQUIP FUTURE OFFICERS, WE CONTINUE PROGRESSING TOWARDS THE GOAL OF EVERY SWORN OFFICER HAVING THE

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SO THEY'RE JUST A SUBSIDIARY, SO TO SPEAK, OF THAT. IT'S THE TASERS THAT WE'VE BEEN CARRYING FOR 30 YEARS, BUT THEY'RE NOT CAMERAS THAT WE'RE TALKING CAMERAS, BUT IT'S THE SAME. IS IT THE SAME? IT'S THE COMPANY, SAME COMPANY. THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE SAME COMPANY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

NO. YOU'RE GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHIEF. SO THERE IS A A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF EXXON PURCHASE AND DEPLOYMENT STRATEGY FOR SEVEN I MEAN 18 EXXON TASER SEVEN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $92,597.73. IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT WE GET THE TASERS. OH I'M SORRY. JUST MOVE. APPROVE. OKAY. MOVE. YES, YES. SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON AND MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO, A SECOND FROM JORGE VARGAS, DISTRICT THREE TO APPROVE THE ACQUISITION OF 18 TASER, AXON, TASER SEVEN. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $92,579 AND $597.73. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN WE GET ANY FEEDBACK ON THE USAGE OF THESE AS A DEPARTMENT IF WE NEED TO? WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK CAN WE GET ABOUT TASER USE, EVEN IF IT'S THOSE KIND OF THINGS? I'M JUST WONDERING, SINCE I DIDN'T GET TO USE FORCE OTHER THAN PHYSICAL TOUCH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO DOCUMENT THAT

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IF I USED A TASER ON YOU, THAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT HIGHER LEVEL OF FORCE. IF I USED A TAKEDOWN MANEUVER, HIGHER LEVEL FORCE ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THAT'S DOCUMENTED. AND WE COULD SEE THAT IF WE NEED TO TRACK THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU CHIEF. I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN IS WANTING THAT REPORT. SO IF YOU COULD SEE IF YOU COULD GET THAT FOR HER, IF WE HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE, PLEASE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE REPORTS THAT ARE THAT ARE CREATED AT THE INCIDENT.

OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. YOU HAD A SPECIFIC INCIDENT THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THE USE OF THAT. , WAIT WAIT. NO, I THINK WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO KNOW, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THERE A REPORT THAT SHOWS HOW MANY TIMES THIS YEAR WE'VE USED TASERS? AND IF THERE'S NOT, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT AND GET IT TO HER. AND THAT WAY WE CAN DO IT. YES. INDIVIDUAL REPORTS THAT ARE GENERATED EACH TIME THERE'S A NEW. YES. WE NEED TO DOCUMENT THAT. PLEASE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2330. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO COMPLETE NEGOTIATIONS, EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH MULTIPLE VENDORS, AND TAKE ALL ACTION NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT. IMPLEMENT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR FOR 26-06 CITYWIDE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPE SERVICE RAILROAD. SO WE LEARNED A LOT DOING THIS RFP AND WE ARE NOT DONE. THIS WAS OUR FIRST YEAR TRYING TO GROUP TOGETHER ALL OF THE CITY PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS OUR EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAYS. I THINK DEMETER AND I WOULD AGREE WE WE'RE GOING TO GO AT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY NEXT YEAR, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE ARE SOLID NUMBERS AND SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WAS OUR GOAL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN Y'ALL ADOPTED YOUR BUDGET, THAT WE WOULD HAVE UPDATED PRICING. SO IN YOUR PACKET AS RESOLUTION 2330 AND EXHIBIT A, ARE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE EVALUATION TEAM FOR EACH OF THE BID FORMS RECEIVED, WHICH ARE ALSO PART OF YOUR PACKET? OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAELYN ON THIS? YES I DO, THESE WERE THE ONLY COMPANIES THAT ANSWERED THE RFQ, THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED ON THE SPREADSHEETS. YES, THE ONES ON THE SPREADSHEET, WHICH IS THE ONES THAT ARE ON IN THE RED, THE RFP 2606 CITYWIDE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPE SERVICES BID SUMMARY YOU HAD BID FORM A, B, C, D, AND E, THOSE ARE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT ARE THE THE ACTUAL BID TABULATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY EACH COMPANY. SO WE WOULD HAVE THOSE ARE THE ONES AT THE TOP. YES. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED. SO WE WENT THROUGH AND WE HIGHLIGHTED LOWEST PRICE SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE VENDORS. ALSO TO THE RFP PROCESS. WE LOOK AT DEPARTMENT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE BASED ON PAST PERFORMANCE. SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT STAFF WE RECEIVED INPUT FROM EACH DEPARTMENT WHO WOULD BE OVER THOSE CONTRACTS MOVING FORWARD. SO WE WERE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD 3 OR 4 NEW CONTRACTORS THIS YEAR. AGAIN, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK DURING THE RFP PROCESS. AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ALSO CITY ENGINEER, YOUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WILL HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THIS NEXT YEAR. ALSO, WE THINK IT WAS A GREAT START. WE DEFINITELY HAVE MORE CONTRACTORS IN PLACE THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST, AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE CITY RIGHT OF WAYS AND EASEMENTS READY FOR RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? I, I THINK I KNOW EARTHWORKS HAS DONE WORK IN THE CITY BEFORE. THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD NINJA CUTS, I THINK I'VE SEEN AROUND. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE BUTLER OR ROCKVIEW, BUT OTHER TIMES WE DID HAVE THREE NEW COMPANIES TO BRING ON BOARD. OKAY. AND YOUR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2330. IT'S GIVING THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORIZATION TO COMPLETE THE NEGOTIATIONS. IS

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DISTRICT THREE, SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FROM DISTRICT FOUR, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2330 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I, I ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES WITH A VOTE OF THE PRESIDENT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.4 DISCUSSING.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2331. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO COMPLETE NEGOTIATIONS. EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH NORRIS DESIGN FOR THE UPDATE OF THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP PURSUANT TO RFQ 26-09, AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURES OF FUNDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT RAELYN. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN RFQ TO UPDATE OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO WE DID RELEASE THE RFQ. YOU'LL SEE THE EVALUATION TEAM SCORING. WE ENDED UP WITH TWO NORRIS DESIGN AND OLSEN INC. WE DID AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND I INCLUDED THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.

ULTIMATELY, CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NORRIS DESIGN TO MOVE FORWARD INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, AND THEN THE PRICING WILL COME BACK TO YOU DURING BUDGET. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAELYN ON THIS ITEM ON THE GREEN IT SAYS REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. JULY 8TH WAS THAT REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR BOTH NORRIS AND OLSEN? YES, AND ONLY NORRIS RESPONDED. THEY BOTH DID RESPOND. I WAS JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT NORRIS WAS THE ONE THAT STAFF ULTIMATELY ENDED UP CHOOSING BASED ON THE INFORMATION. OKAY, ANYONE ELSE IS THERE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION TWO, THREE THREE, ONE? I MAKE A MOTION TO. TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2331 A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM OUR MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, A SECOND FROM DISTRICT THREE, JORGE VARGAS TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2331 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES AN END OF ALL THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.5 DISCUSSING.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2332. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO COMPLETE NEGOTIATIONS AND EXECUTE ANNUAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS WITH QUALIFIED FIRMS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES PURSUANT TO RFQ 26-10, AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. RAYMOND. SO AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO RELEASED AN RFQ FOR OUR THIRD PARTY CONSULTING AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE EVALUATION SHEET, WE DID NOT LACK IN RESPONSES. IF YOU'LL RECALL, ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO, I THINK WE HAD 3 OR 4. WE HAD 18 FIRMS THAT WANTED TO WORK WITH US. I HAVE GONE IN AND HIGHLIGHTED THREE. I THINK THERE ARE SEVEN, YES, SEVEN FIRMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. I DO WANT TO SPECIFY THAT WE FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE FIRMS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER SOME SPECIALIZED SERVICES, WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR PARTICULARLY FOR THE AIRPORT OR CERTAIN UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF SPREAD OUT THE WORK. AND THEN ALSO, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE ADDITIONAL BACKUP CONSULTANTS FOR REVIEW. AND BECAUSE MORE AND MORE OF OUR ENGINEERS ARE WORKING WITH LOCAL DEVELOPERS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE THAT WE CAN HAND OVER FOR THIRD PARTY REVIEW. SO THESE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTED INDIVIDUALS AND FIRMS ARE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAELYN. ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO USE ALL ONE, 23456. IT WOULD BE TOTAL OF SEVEN. HAVE THEY DONE WORK WITH THE CITY

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NO, IT IT ALWAYS COMES STAMPED. AND SO IF A SET OF PLANS COMES IN FROM FREEMAN MILLIGAN, THEN WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER FIRM THAT WAS REVIEWING THOSE PLANS. YES.

YEAH. OKAY. FREEMAN. MILLER. MCMILLAN. MALONE SCORED THE HIGHEST FOR 88 OUT OF 500. AND ARE THEY ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING WE WANT THEM TO IN RELATION TO THIS IS AN RF. THIS IS FOR.

PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES. ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE NEED 6 OR 7.

CAN'T WE JUST USE ONE. SO NOT ALL OF YOUR FIRMS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW DRAINAGE STUDIES OR DO GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS. THERE'S MORE SPECIALIZED ENGINEERING NEEDS.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIALIZED LIKE WE HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER. YES. YEAH. WE SHOULD BE DOING CIVIL ENGINEERING GROUND DOWN. SO SOME ARE GOING TO BE MORE GEARED TOWARDS YOUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. AND THEN IT BREAKS ROAD UTILITY, ETC. OKAY. WONDERING TWO WHY DO WE COULD WE PICK LIKE TWO FROM WHATEVER CATEGORY? I'M JUST CURIOUS TOO ABOUT THE NUMBER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS BEING LOWER, I MEAN, CAN WE PICK 1 OR 2 IN EACH ONE IN EACH CATEGORY? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. SO LET ME HELP ADDRESS THIS A LITTLE BIT. AND THE REASON WHY THERE'S MULTIPLE IN THE PREVIOUS, WE ONLY PICKED TWO IN THIS. FREEMAN MILLIKEN AND KIMBERLY HORN. WHAT. WE'RE RUNNING INTO A GREAT DEAL OF TIME. THE DEVELOPERS ARE USING. KIMBERLY HORN. AND SO WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WHETHER IT BE A DRAINAGE STUDY, WHETHER IT BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT OR WHETHER IT BE CIVIL, I DON'T WATCH HAVE THE FOX WATCH THE IN-HOUSE AND REVIEWS. SO I WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE BACKUP. AND WHAT I FOUND OUT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME HERE A LITTLE BIT, I'M FINDING OUT THAT EACH ONE OF THEM HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SPECIALTY. THIS CREATES MORE VERSATILITY FOR ME TO SELECT, BASED OFF THE CONDITION OF THE REVIEWS THAT I NEED TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, I COULD GO AND DO. YES, FREEMAN MILLIKEN CAN DO A GREAT DEAL OF THE CHECK BOXES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. SOME HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERTISE THAN OTHERS, AND SOME ARE VERY MUCH WELL-ROUNDED.

YOU'VE HEARD OF FREESE AND NICHOLS MANY TIMES. THEY DO A LOT OF OUR WATER HYDRAULICS. SO IF I HAVE A COMPANY THAT COMES IN AND NEEDS 3 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO GO TO. SO IT JUST HELPS ME SOURCE WHAT BUCKET I NEED TO PULL SOME RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE FROM. THAT'S ALL IT DOES. SO IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD, WE DO NOT CAN DO COMPETITIVE BIDS IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD. SO YOU JUST DO IT ON QUALIFICATIONS. AND THAT'S WHY THEN I'M WONDERING LIKE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SCORED HIGHER, ARE THEY MORE COSTLY VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT SCORED LOWER OR BASED ON WHAT THEY DO? HOW DO WE KNOW HOW THEIR PRICES COMPARE? SO WHAT THIS NEXT PHASE IS, IS FOR US TO NEGOTIATE THOSE PRICES AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE GAVE THEM SOME GUIDELINES ON A TYPICAL REVIEW.

I WANT AN ANSWER BACK IN TWO WEEKS. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE WHAT THAT PRICE IS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SET TIME BECAUSE AN ENGINEER, ALL THEY DO IS WORK OFF TIME AND, AND MONEY. RIGHT? SO FOR, FOR ENGINEERS, THEY FALL UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND YOU ARE NOT, YOU CAN'T ASK FOR PRICING. IT'S BASED SOLELY ON QUALIFICATIONS FOR ENGINEERING ACCOUNTING. THERE'S, THERE'S A LIST OF A DOZEN OR. SO WHAT WHAT IS CONSIDERED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND ENGINEERING IS ONE OF THOSE. OKAY, SO YOU CAN BID ANYTHING ELSE JUST. YEAH, IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM AND YOU WANT TO BID IT AND THEY BUILD A JERRY'S WORLD AND YOU LOW BID THE ENGINEERING, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO BE SITTING AT

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THAT MAKES SENSE. IS THERE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION 2332. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 3 TO 2 22332033322332. 23322332. ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FOUR, A SECOND FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON OR MAYOR PRO TEM FROM DISTRICT TWO TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2332 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AND OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.6 DISCUSSION. CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2333 AMENDING RESOLUTION 990 TO EXTEND THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM FOR CERTAIN EXISTING HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE NORTH BRANCH'S DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS. SO BACK IN 2020, WHENEVER YOU APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALSO THE ANNEXATION FOR THE NORTH, FRANCIS 240, LLC, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS HILLSIDE, YOU GRANTED FIVE YEARS WORTH OF TAX REIMBURSEMENT ON TWO HOMESTEADS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WATER, WASTEWATER SERVICES. YOU JUST HAD PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES AVAILABLE. SO SINCE THEN, WE KNOW THAT THAT DEVELOPER HAS NOT MOVED FORWARD. AND SO WE HAVE NOT EXTENDED WATER WASTEWATER. AND SO THOSE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE COME FORWARD AND ASKED FOR A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX. SO IN TALKING TO DON, THIS IS ABOUT $1,700 A YEAR FOR EACH HOUSE. SO IT'S A TOTAL OF 3400 THAT IS PAID BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT. THEY PAY IT FIRST AND THEN THEY GET OKAY. YES, SIR. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION 2333. I. SO MOVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO SECOND FROM JORGE VARGAS. DISTRICT THREE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2333 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND STAFF IS BRINGING THIS TO US. THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS NEEDED NECESSARILY. EXTENSION. RIGHT. THIS IS OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ALL THOSE PRESENT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.7. DISCUSSING. CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2334 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, REQUESTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF AN APPLICATION FOR ASSISTANCE AND MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH. CHRIS. SO, COUNCIL, I BRING TO YOU WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU ASK FOR MONEY, I NEED A RESOLUTION FROM THE COUNCIL THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND DO THIS. THIS IS A 100% GRANT. SO THIS STATE IS. YES. SO THIS IS A LOOKING AT REPLACING THE EXISTING POETRY WATER TANK IS 1 MILLION GALLON. WE'RE GOING TO PUT RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT. IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NEXT ONE. NEXT ONE RIGHT THERE BASICALLY IS DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT OF THE EXISTING POETRY WATER TANK. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A 2.5 MILLION MGD WATER TANK THERE. THIS IS A FUND THAT'S CALLED THE WATER SOURCE ACT, OR SOMETHING THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO $21 MILLION. A NEW WATER TANK IS AROUND 18 MILLION, IS WHAT WE'VE GOT. THE ENGINEERS, FREESE AND NICHOLS IS WORKING WITH ME. THE OPC HAS IT RIGHT

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IT IS NOW 1046 AND WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I SAID MY PHONE SAYS NINE OH, A OKAY.

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