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MARCH 26TH, 2026. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I DO HAVE TWO TWO COMMISSIONERS ARE ABSENT TODAY. I HAVE KELSEY WEINBERGER, COMMISSIONER CASSIE WARBLER, KIM, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO HER FOR TONIGHT? NO. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE HER RIGHT NOW MARKED AS AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE. AND THEN DANNY STEVENS. OH, OKAY. WE'LL MARK HIM ALSO AS UNEXCUSED ABSENCE AT THIS TIME. OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE. ALRIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND REMIND. PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER ZAHN. AND THEN PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE TEXAS FLAG. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO REPRESENT YOU AND THE PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF TARA. LORD, WE PRAY AND ASK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM, AND WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US IN THE STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT. HELP US TO UNDERSTAND, GIVE US YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS MATERIAL SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. LORD, WE PRAY AND ASK THAT YOU BE EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, LORD, AND ALSO THE VISITORS WHO ARE HERE VISITING WITH US, THAT WE WILL HAVE A GOOD, PRODUCTIVE MEETING, ALL TO GIVE YOU GLORY. IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS. AMEN.
AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ON PAGE. ONE. UNDER GOD. PLEASE BE SEATED. AS WE GET STARTED. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ANY BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING. NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ADOPTION OF
[5. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
THE MINUTES. COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ OR LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDS TO IT. IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE. I HAVE A QUESTION. KELSEY, YOUR LAST ONE. I DON'T SEE HER NECESSARILY GAVE HER NAME. WAS KELSEY HERE LAST MONTH. I BELIEVE SHE WAS. 26. YES SHE WAS. SHE TWO ABSENCE OKAY? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN REGARDS TO APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026. HOLD ON A MINUTE. IT SAYS LORI LINDSEY ON THAT ONE. AND I WASN'T HERE. CORRECT. WE HAD WE HAD REPLACED IT WITH DANNY STEVENS WAS HERE AT THAT TIME. OKAY. YES. BUT IT SAYS MEMBERS PRESENT. I WASN'T I WAS ON LEAVE AT THAT TIME.WAS THAT CORRECT? DID THAT. WE'LL MAKE AN EDIT TO THAT. KELSEY. CORRECT. YEAH, ACTUALLY I WAS OFF ON WHATEVER. SO WE HAVE DANNY AS A REPLACEMENT AT THAT TIME. MR. DANNY STEVENS OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THAT. CATCHING THAT. THERE. ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE CORRECTIONS OF THE TWO MEMBERS THAT WERE ABSENT. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 2026 WITH CORRECTIONS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON OVER
[6. PUBLIC HEARING]
TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE THREE TONIGHT, SO WE'LL START WITH 6.1. WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A ZONE CHANGE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO HIGHWAY COURIER ON APPROXIMATELY 0.447 ACRES OF LAND WITHIN THE RANDALL ADDITION BLOCK ONE, LOT TWO CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, IDENTIFIED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY C A D PROPERTY PROPERTY[00:05:04]
ID 50331, FURTHER KNOWN AS 94 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 205, TERRELL, TEXAS. THIS IS A ZONE CHANGE. 20 6-05 COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS THE OLD I BELIEVE IT USED TO BE A CLEANERS. CORRECT? RIGHT NEXT TO THE OLD PLACE NEXT TO WALMART. OKAY. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONERS, I ACTUALLY GET TO PRESENT THIS ONE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. SO THIS IS JUST A ZONE CHANGE AS YOU SAID, CHAIRMAN. THIS IS THE OLD CLEANERS FACILITY. JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME BEARINGS HERE. WE'VE GOT WALMART ON THIS SIDE. THIS IS THE TRACTOR SUPPLY. SO 205 HERE. AND THEN THIS IS THAT QUICK CAR CAR WASH AND LUBE PLACE. SO THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A WHILE. AND THIS PROPERTY OWNER IS JUST LOOKING TO CHANGE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, WHICH WOULD BRING THAT INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY OVERLAYING THE TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY PROPERTY. WE SENT OUT SIX LETTERS. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES EITHER IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THAT ZONE CHANGE. OKAY, GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND THEN THE AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THIS HERE A SECOND. CAN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE ANYONE HERE WANTS TO DISCUSS IN FAVOR. NOT IN FAVOR IN REGARDS TO ZONE CHANGE 20 6-05. YES, SIR. YOU HAVE A WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SIR. FRANK ROBERTS I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER REPRESENTING MR. NO, ON THIS PROPERTY I'M AT 109 NORTH FRANCIS AND TERRELL. THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN OFF THE MARKET FOR, I GUESS, 20 YEARS ALMOST AND 15. ANYWAY, MR. KNOWLES DECIDED TO SELL IT. WE THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE AS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SITE. I THINK THE CITY IS KIND OF OPPOSED TO THAT. WE THINK IT'S BETTER SUITED AS A OFFICE OR MAYBE RETAIL SITE.SO WE'VE ASKED IF THE IF THE ZONING COULD BE CHANGED TO, TO THE THE CURRENT HIGHWAY ZONING.
SO WE'RE IN FAVOR OF IT. I REPRESENT THE SELLER WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND HE'S IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? NO. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ZONE CHANGE 20 6-05I DO, YES, MA'AM. I KNOW THIS PROPERTY CAME BEFORE US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT. THEY WANTED A S U P FOR THIS ONE FOR A VAPE SHOP, IF I'M CORRECT. RIGHT. CIGAR PLACE. OKAY. AND WAS THAT WAS THAT BY THE PRESENT OWNER OR THAT WAS SOMEONE ANTICIPATING PURCHASING CORRECT STAFF? YES. THAT WAS PROPOSED TENANT. THE PROPOSED TENANT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS. OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE THE CURRENT TENANT OWNER. HE'S JUST WANTING TO GET IT IN LINE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY, GOTCHA. JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M SORRY. I THINK THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO WOULD BE GREAT, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA. IF THEY CAN DO SOME OFFICES AND RETAIL. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION REGARDS TO ZONE CHANGE 20 6-05. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHANGE PROPOSED FOR ZONE CHANGE 26. DASH FIVE DASH YES ZERO FIVE OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONE CHANGE 20 6-05. DO I HAVE A SECOND SECOND I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6.2 IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ZONE CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY 7.5 TO MULTI-FAMILY ON APPROXIMATELY 4.355 ACRES OF LAND. WITHIN THE ADDITIONAL ADDITION. BLOCK 17, LOT 2.3 OF TARO KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, IDENTIFIED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY ID 42 9999, FURTHER KNOWN AS ZERO ALLEN STREET, TERRELL, TEXAS. THIS IS ZONE CHANGE 20 6-04. OKAY. STOP.
YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. HERE IS OUR LOCATION MAP FOR THIS ONE. THIS IS ZERO ALLEN STREET. AND AGAIN TO HELP GET SOME BEARINGS WE HAVE BURGER KING DOWN HERE. BRAHMS IS OFF THIS WAY. THE
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VALERO HERE'S THE FOOTBALL FIELD ALONG NINTH STREET. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PROPOSING A MULTI-FAMILY ZONING FOR THIS LOT. AND LOOKING HERE, THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY 7.5. AND THERE IS OTHER 7.5 SURROUNDING. BUT THERE IS ALSO THIS COMMERCIAL DOWN HERE. SO WHILE THERE IS NOT OTHER MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA, THE FUTURE LAND USE CALLS FOR NEW TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY USAGE. AND SO STAFF DOES SUPPORT AS THIS WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS LOCATION. WE SENT OUT 29 LETTERS AND AS OF THE TIME OF THE AGENDA, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY. BUT AS OF TODAY, WE'VE RECEIVED THREE. TWO WERE IN FAVOR AND ONE WAS OPPOSED, AND THOSE HAVE BOTH BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A LOOK AT THOSE. OKAY.TWO. OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR NOT IN FAVOR IN REGARDS TO ITEM 6.2 ZONE CHANGE 20 6-04. OKAY, I DIDN'T MENTION, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM. JUST HAD THE ONE REQUEST ANYONE? ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ZONE CHANGE. EXCUSE ME. MR. OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, OPEN THE FLOOR.
WE HAVE. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? STAFF HAS SAID THAT THE OWNER IS HERE IN REGARDS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ZONE CHANGE 20 6-04. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR. YES, MA'AM. OH. I GUESS IT'S FOR THE OWNER PROPERTY OWNER, THE MULTI-FAMILY IS THAT HIGH POINT STATE YOUR NAME FOR. YEAH. BRIAN BRIDGEWATER, THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH FOOTPRINT RESIDENTIAL AND HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. IS IT GOING TO BE HIGH DENSITY? NO, WE'RE WE'VE GOT SOME GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT. YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IT TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY A FEW YEARS AGO. THE MARKET SHIFTED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH WITH THE COMMERCIAL AROUND THE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CAR DEALERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, SOUTH AND WEST. BUT WE'VE HAD A, WE'VE HAD A FEW GROUPS APPROACHES THAT ARE LOOKING AT SOME SENIOR LIVING CONCEPTS. AND THIS IS AN ALLOWED USE UNDERNEATH THE MULTI-FAMILY ZONING. SO IT'S THE ONLY THE ONLY ONE, I BELIEVE IN YOUR ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWED THAT. SO. OKAY, WOULD THAT BE A MULTI-LEVEL. THE, THE GROUPS THAT HAVE SHOWN ME THERE ARE USUALLY TWO, MAYBE THREE LEVEL. SO I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS SENSITIVITY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES HAVE A LOT OF PUBLISHED REGULATIONS WITH, WITH HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. SO YOU'LL HAVE A PRETTY DETAILED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE WOULD FALL UNDERNEATH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S RESTRICTED IN THAT. BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ULTIMATELY PROPOSED, WE STILL DON'T KNOW YET. YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT MARKETING IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A USER, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME LOW INTENSITY USERS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FIT EXCEPTIONALLY WELL IN THIS SPOT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF GEAR IT TOWARD THAT TYPE OF USER. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT YOU'LL GEAR IT TOWARDS THAT KIND OF USER? I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, THE ZONING ALLOWS ANY USE UNDERNEATH THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THE ZONING IS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WE HAVE TO PRODUCE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE ARE ALWAYS BIG CONCERNS OF THE CITY'S AND RESIDENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON WHETHER IT'S A LOW INTENSITY USE OR A HIGH DENSITY. YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY WILL GENERATE 4 OR 5 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH MIGHT REQUIRE STREET IMPROVEMENT SIGNALS. BUT SO THERE IS A THERE'S STILL A CHECKS AND BALANCES TO WHAT IT IS. AND I, I'M PERSONALLY A CIVIL ENGINEER. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 24 YEARS. SO I'VE, I'VE DONE ALL ASSET TYPES, BUT THIS. WE HAPPEN TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF REGULATION PAST THE ZONING THAT, THAT MAKES SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PUT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT FACTORS EVERYTHING AROUND IT. SO ANOTHER QUESTION AND THE REASON I MENTIONED, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TRAFFIC IN INFRASTRUCTURE. YES, MA'AM. IT'S ALSO YOU'RE BACKING UP TO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IF YOU HAVE A FOUR STORY COMPLEX SURROUNDED BY SURFACE PARKING AND OR AND OR AND, OR IF I WERE THAT HOMEOWNER, I'D WANT SOMEONE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. YEAH. JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE START OF A TRUE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. CAN I ASK WHAT ABOUT TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD?
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DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS AN IDEA? IT FALLS UNDER OUR FUTURE LAND USE AND PROBABLY IS HAS MIGHT HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CURRENT ZONE. IT'S NOT A CURRENT ZONE. OKAY. ZONE ADDRESS. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. WE JUST WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT GOING FROM SINGLE TO MULTIFAMILY. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF. BIG AREA IN REGARDS TO WHAT THEY WHAT THEY CAN DO TO THAT PROPERTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FOR THE OWNER? YES, MA'AM. I JUST CLARIFIED JUST AS KIND OF AS HE SAID IN HIS EXPLAIN TO US EVEN LAST TIME IS ONCE THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY HAVE TO BRING THAT PLAN BACK TO US AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT THEN. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DOING THE ZONING AND IT'S WITHIN OUR CITY. YES, WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. IT'S WHAT WE SAID WE WANT FOR THAT FUTURE LAND USE. AND, AND AS YOU GUYS STATED WHEN YOU EXPLAINED IT, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING, RIGHT? ALL AROUND IT AS WELL. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF YOU WILL AGAIN, SHOW ME WHERE THE BURGER KING YOU WERE, YOU WERE SHOWING IT WAS THE BURGER KING'S. BURGER KING'S IS RIGHT HERE.RIGHT. OKAY. AND THERE'S THE BRONZE AREA RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. BUT RIGHT BEHIND BURGER KING RIGHT THERE. 41 597 RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE AREA BACK THERE BEHIND THERE. YEAH, RIGHT IN HERE, RIGHT BEHIND BURGER KING. I KNOW BECAUSE I JUST DROVE OFF OF THERE, THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THERE'S SOME LIKE DUPLEXES THERE. SO IT'S ALREADY MULTI TO ME ALREADY IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S ALREADY THERE IN THAT AREA. I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL ELITE HOUSES OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE'S A DUPLEX RIGHT THERE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, HE'S BACKED UP TO A CAR DEALERSHIP RIGHT THERE. SO TO ME THAT'S WILL EVEN BE AN IMPROVEMENT. I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I SAID, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE'VE SET FORTH THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN THAT AREA. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO I'M JUST CLARIFYING TO MAKE SURE.
THANK YOU. MA'AM, CAN I CLARIFY ONE MORE QUESTION? YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. IT'S FOR OH, I'M SORRY, RAYLAN, IN TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK IT UP. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BIT SINCE WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTIFAMILY, WHAT ARE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS IN TERMS OF FLOOR LEVELS IN HERE? I DIDN'T SEE IT. I LOOKED THROUGH THE WE'VE WE'VE CHANGED. YEAH. THREE. SO YEAH, SO SOME OF IT IS THREE STORIES. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THIS PARCEL, ONCE YOU ADD ALL THE SETBACKS AND I MEAN HE'S GOING TO JUST BASED ON THE SIZE ALONE, HE'S GOING TO BE PRETTY RESTRICTED AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF UNITS. YEAH, HUGE, HUGE AREA THERE. YEAH. RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM.
COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? MY BUSINESS ACTUALLY FALLS WITHIN THIS BUFFER ZONE. YES, MA'AM. PROPERTY. WE RECEIVED THE NOTICE, BUT WE DID NOT RESPOND.
I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU FEEL IT WOULD BE NECESSARY THAT I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS. I BELIEVE IN THIS ONE. SHE WOULD NOT, WOULD SHE? IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY? OKAY, OKAY. OKAY.
CLARIFY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN BE CLARIFIED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTIONS IN REGARDS TO ZONE CHANGE 20 6-04. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE 20 6-04. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. OKAY, SURE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE MOVE ON OVER TO 6.3, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO APPENDIX TWO. ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAROT. CITY OF TAROT. CODE OF ORDINANCE. ARTICLE THREE ZONE DISTRICT.
SECTION 20. TOWNHOUSE. RESIDENTIAL. ARTICLE NINE, ARTICLE FOUR. I'M SORRY. USE REGULATION SECTIONS 32 USE REGULATIONS CHART ARTICLE FIVE. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SECTION 42 SPECIAL REGULATIONS OF CERTAIN TYPES AND USE, AND SECTION 44 DEFINITIONS IS REALLY GOING TO EXPLAIN ALL THIS TO US. SO THIS IS ALWAYS THE FUN PART BECAUSE YOU ALL GET TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE CRAZY QUESTIONS THAT WE GET IN OUR OFFICE THAT WE HAVE NO ANSWERS TO. AND SO THEN WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING CURRENT.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS STAFF WILL PROPOSE IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE THIRD PAGE.
YEAH. WHAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS SECTION 20 HAS ALWAYS BEEN REFERRED TO AS
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TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL. AND WE LEARNED RECENTLY THAT THAT ZONING NAME OF TOWNHOUSE IS SOMETIMES VERY DECEIVING BECAUSE IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR PATIO HOMES AND OTHER. IT COULD BE SINGLE FAMILY, NOT ATTACHED DWELLINGS. AND SO WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS THAT SECTION 20, INSTEAD OF BEING REFERRED TO AS TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL T H THAT THIS WOULD BE PATIO HOME, THE.NOTHING IN THE BODY OF SECTION 20 CHANGES. IT STILL OUTLINES WHAT TOWNHOUSES ARE, WHAT PATIO HOMES ARE, WHAT THE ZERO LOT LINE, WHAT TWO FAMILY DUPLEXES IS. BUT WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS ZONE USE IN PARTICULAR, WE THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO DEVELOPERS AS WELL AS THE BOARD AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, TO KNOW THAT IT COVERS A VARIETY OF HOUSING. AND SO IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE A, QUOTE UNQUOTE, WHAT WE VISUALIZE AS A TOWNHOME.
SO THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD. LIKE I SAID, NONE OF THESE STANDARDS THEMSELVES CHANGED. THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO CHOOSE 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A NAME OF THAT ZONING THAT DIDN'T SPECIFY OR MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS ONE PARTICULAR THING OVER ANOTHER. THE NEXT PROPOSED CHANGE IS THE USE CHART. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS WHERE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED THERE AT THE TOP USED TO SAY TOWNHOMES. NOW I WOULD SAY PATIO HOME. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED CHANGE FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST. CURRENTLY IT'S ALLOWABLE IN YOUR AGRICULTURE AND YOUR EXECUTIVE ESTATES, BUT WE HAVE HAD REQUESTS ABOUT POSSIBLE BED AND BREAKFAST LOCATED IN OTHER SIZE LOTS. AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING S U S FOR SF 16 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SF 7.5. AND THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION THAT WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND. NEXT PAGE IS BOARDING HOME. SO THIS IS AN ONGOING TOPIC AT OUR HOUSE. AT OUR HOUSE, YES, THIS WE DO SPEND MORE TIME HERE THAN AT OUR HOUSE, SO I APOLOGIZE. IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. SO Y'ALL HAVE HAD A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AND THEY VARY. SO I'M GOING TO USE THE EXAMPLE OF BRIDGING THE GAP.
BRIDGING THE GAP FALLS UNDER BOARDING HOUSE. SO IT IS PERMITTED WITHIN ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. BUT THEN IT REQUIRED AN S, U, P WHEN THEY MOVED OVER TO COMMERCIAL. AND SO A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE ORDINANCE, I'M GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHY WE WENT IN AND SPECIFIED THAT STATE LICENSE JUVENILE, AND IT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT HAD BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST, HOW WE COULD MOVE FORWARD IF THIS EVER CAME UP AGAIN. THE NEXT PROPOSED CHANGE IS O DELIVERY KIOSK. THIS IS A FUN ONE. SO WE WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THESE. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO QTI, THESE ARE LIKE THE AMAZON MAILBOXES THAT YOU CAN USE. AND WHILE THAT WAS NOT REALLY A BIG DEAL, WE HAD A COMPANY REACH OUT THERE CALLED TIPPING POINT AND THEY WANT TO START DOING DRONE DELIVERIES. AND SO RETAIL HUBS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE A LITTLE DRONE KIOSK WHERE THEY COULD PUT FOOD IN THERE. THE DRONE GOES DOWN TO THE KIOSK, PICKS IT UP AND THEN DELIVERS IT. SO THAT MADE US ALL KINDS OF NERVOUS. SO WE WENT WE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE WANTED TO DEFINE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS PERMITTED. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE POPPING UP ALL OVER TOWN. AND OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THOSE CHANGES. BED AND BREAKFAST, LIKE I SAID, WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF REGULATIONS. IT WASN'T VERY SPECIFIC AS FAR AS WHAT THEY HAD TO FOLLOW. SO WHILE IT WAS ALWAYS DEFINED AND IT WAS ALWAYS IN YOUR USE CHART, WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED SOME SPECIAL REGULATIONS, REGULATIONS FOR BED AND BREAKFAST, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO ALL OPERATE WITH AN S, U, P AND MAINLY THAT'S JUST TO HELP MONITOR WHERE AND HOW MANY WE HAVE. IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW, LIKE IF THEY'RE GETTING NOISE COMPLAINTS OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY WOULD BE ARRIVING AT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT JUST A BIG FAMILY GATHERING, BUT POSSIBLY HAS OTHER PEOPLE, THE OWNER OR
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PRIMARY RESIDENT MUST OCCUPY THE PROPERTY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT AN AIRBNB WHERE WE'RE BRINGING FOOD IN AND OUT. NO MORE THAN TWO GUESTS PER ROOM. IF THE. IF THERE IS SPACE FOR THAT, THAT CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE FIRE MARSHAL. SO WE'RE ALLOWING FOR THAT. BUT STANDARD IS TWO GUESTS PER ROOM. WE ADDRESS PARKING AS ONE SPACE PER GUEST ROOM, PLUS ONE SPACE PER OWNER, AND PARKING ON THE STREET DOES NOT COUNT. DURATION OF STAY NOT TO EXCEED 14 DAYS. WE WANT THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL WITH NO EXTERNAL ALTERATIONS THAT YOU KNOW STAND OUT OUTSIDE OF OR THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. WE DON'T WANT SIGNAGE. WE DON'T. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. HEALTH AND SAFETY. JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALL APPLICABLE REGULATIONS ARE FOLLOWED, SUCH AS BUILDING FIRE, HEALTH, SAFETY, HEALTH PERMITS, ETCETERA, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. WE WANT TO MAKE SUBJECT TO AN ANNUAL RENEWAL. SO WE KIND OF LOOK AT THIS THE SAME AS WE DO LIKE HOTELS, HOTELS GET ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. AND SO FOR SOMEONE TO KEEP PROVIDING SERVICES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WE THINK THAT AN ANNUAL INSPECTION WOULD BE GOOD.AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN REVOKE THE S, U P FOR ANY VIOLATIONS OF THE REGULATIONS.
AND SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE NOISE COMPLAINTS, ETC. SO IF WE HAVE A BED AND BREAKFAST OPERATOR WHO CONTINUOUSLY DOES NOT KEEP THINGS IN ORDER THAT WE CAN GO IN AND REVOKE THE S U P, THE BOARDING HOME STATE LICENSE, WHILE WITHIN BRIDGE THE GAPS S U P. THESE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MADE SURE WAS COVERED. AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE SAME REGULATIONS ON A BOARDING HOME OR A STATE LICENSE JUVENILE HOME, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE IN RESIDENTIAL AS STAFF. WE LOOKED AT IT AS, GOSH, IT WAS SO EASY FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF LICENSING AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN PLACE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO PUT THOSE REGULATIONS IN, IN EFFECT, FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND THE ONE COMMERCIAL S, U, P SO THAT NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, EVEN IF THEY GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE VERIFYING THAT THEY'RE STILL MEETING THE SAME, THE SAME CODES, AND THEN THE DELIVERY KIOSK. THIS IS REALLY KIND OF GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHY WE WANT A SITE PLAN, THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT, THAT THERE IS ALWAYS SIDEWALK AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, AND THAT THERE'S NO DRONE KIOSK IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEHIND. SO THE SITE PLAN IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S NOT WITHIN THAT. THAT WAY THEY STILL MEET THE ADA, ETC. AND THEN ALSO THE NUMBER ONE KEY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPERTY OWNER AUTHORIZATION. WE DON'T WANT THESE BOXES SHOWING UP, KIND OF LIKE OUR DONATION BOXES THAT COME UP OUT OF NOWHERE. SO THOSE ARE OUR ONLY PROPOSED CHANGES. THE NEXT PAGE IS JUST THE THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF BOARDING HOME FOR THE STATE LICENSE AND THE DELIVERY KIOSK. LIKE I SAID, YOU ALREADY HAD A DEFINITION FOR BED AND BREAKFAST. WE JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE TEETH IN THERE. AND REALLY IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN, IT'S HOW WE'VE PRACTICED. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORDINANCES ARE UPDATED. SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE OR CONCERNS? SO WE HAVE THE, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER HOMES IN TOWN WHERE WE HAVE MAYBE. ELDERLY OR ELDERLY. THAT'S ALREADY ADDRESSED IN OUR. THEY THEY ARE. AND WE'RE GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. AND THIS IS OUR FIRST STEP IN KIND OF SEPARATING. SO WE HAVE THOSE ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT TOO MANY REGULATIONS ON, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING HIGHLIGHTED IN THE COMMUNITY. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE A PROTECTED CLASS. SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST STEP. OKAY, WE'RE PULLING OUT THE JUVENILE AND THIS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT THEY CAN FALL IN SO THAT WE, WE KNOW WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO BE HERE. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE FIRST STEP. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT BOARDING HOUSES FOR THREE YEARS NOW, AND EVERY TIME WE SIT DOWN WITH IT, WE'RE LIKE, BECAUSE THERE'S BOARDING HOME BOARDING HOUSE, WHICH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IS TWO SEPARATE THINGS. AND THEN LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER TERM ALSO RESIDENTIAL
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LIVING FACILITY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT IRONED OUT TO WHERE WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHICH BOX THEY FIT IN. SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL FINALLY GET IT ALL FIGURED OUT AND DEFINED WHERE WE KNOW WHERE EVERYONE GOES. BUT EVIDENTLY FIRE CODE DOESN'T MAKE THAT VERY EASY EITHER. JUST A CLARIFICATION SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE JUST UPDATING AND IMPROVING WITH YOUR DEFINITIONS AND EVERYTHING WITH OUR APPROVAL, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, WE'RE DOING AN ALL TOGETHER, ALL OF THESE TOGETHER JUST BECAUSE THEY FALL, BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE SAME ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. OKAY, SO IT'S ALL THE SAME ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S JUST DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SAME OR DIFFERENT SECTIONS. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WERE DOING IT ALL TOGETHER. I WISH THE ZONING ORDINANCE WASN'T ONE BIG, HUGE DOCUMENT. IT WOULD HELP. AND THEN IN TERMS OF BED AND BREAKFAST, I SEE THE SPECIAL USE I C S, F 16, TEN AND 7.5 IS ONE OF THE SMALLER ON THE SMALLER END OF OUR LOTS. IS THERE A CONCERN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE THE PARKING ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT COULD THEY, LET'S SAY, OBLITERATE THEIR ENTIRE FRONT YARD AND PUT A. NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD. YEAH. SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE REGULATION. AND THE REASON THAT WE WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 7.5 IS IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT ZONING, YOU HAVE A A LOT ALL OF THE ZONING, FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG GRIFFITH IS 7.5. EVEN THOUGH THOSE LOTS ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN 7500FT■!S. SO TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ACCOMMODATING THE HOUSES THAT THIS COULD GO ON, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 7.5. AND SO THAT'LL HELP WITH THE S U P ALSO, BECAUSE WE CAN VERIFY THAT IT REALLY IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE. THANK YOU. AND SPEAKING OF THAT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 7.5 AND THE FIVE, THOSE DIFFERENT SIZES OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WHEN WE HAD THE MINIMUM THAT JUST SAYS THAT'S WHAT THE MINIMUM CAN BE. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE WHEN THE SPECIAL USE COMES UP, THAT'LL BE THE DETERMINING FACTOR. YEAH. OKAY.ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. BUT COULD YOU IN FACT, IF LET'S SAY IF SOMEONE CAME IN BED AND BREAKFAST, 7.5 AND IT WAS A NEW LOT, ONE OF THE NEWER, SMALLER ONES, NOT ONE ON GRIFFITH, IF IT'S UNDER SPECIAL USE, COULD THEY SAY THIS IS THE MINIMUM AND WE CAN DO IT HERE? AND COULD THERE ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME LARGER HOMES, LARGER LOTS THAT FALL UNDER 7.5 THAT WOULD MAKE BEAUTIFUL BED AND BREAKFASTS, QUITE FRANKLY. BUT I'M THINKING ON THE OTHER END, JUST AS WE'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH THIS. IF SOMEONE FINDS A SMALLER HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ON 7.5, ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR IS THERE ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS IT PROBABLY DOESN'T WORK FOR THIS LOT, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET IT FOR THESE THAT ARE BIGGER? NO, BECAUSE THE WAY THE REGULATIONS ARE, IF THEY CAN PROVIDE THE PARKING, IF I MEAN, IF THEY CHECK ALL THE BOXES, THEN DO IT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS ACTUALLY A PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME IN IN FAVOR OR NOT IN FAVOR IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
BEFORE US? NO. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS. THE ONLY THING I I WOULD SAY IS WITH THEM EXERCISING THE RIGHTS OF MAKING IT AS S U P MAKES IT VERY, VERY GOOD FOR US, FOR THE CITY OF TRURO. THAT WAY WE HAVE CONTROL OF EVERYTHING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE JUST POPPING UP EVERYWHERE BUT THE S U P AND BEING ABLE TO REVOKE IT IMMEDIATELY IF THEY DO SOMETHING WRONG. IT'S ALWAYS ALREADY IN WRITTEN IN WRITING, SO I DO RECOMMEND THAT IT BE A GOOD IDEA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FOR STAFF IN REGARDS TO THIS? JUST GLAD THEY'RE PUTTING SOME TEETH AND SOME THINGS AROUND HERE. OH YES MA'AM I SEE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN REGARDS TO ITEM 6.3 ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS WRITTEN FOR 6.3 ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. AMENDMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM
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SEVEN. CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY ANY OF THESE AGENDAS YOU WANT TO PULL OUT AND SPEAK OF OR DISCUSS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA 7.1 THROUGH 7.6.UNLESS THERE'S A CONSENT AGENDA, Y'ALL WANT TO PULL OUT AND DISCUSS IT? ENTERTAIN A MOTION? YES, MA'AM. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF WE DON'T HAVE ONE TO DISCUSS THAT, WE APPROVE ITEM 7.1 THROUGH 7.6 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 7.1 THROUGH 7.6 ON A CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE BEFORE
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WE ADJOURN TONIGHT, I DO HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE WE HAVE TO SOME HOUSEKEEPING THINGS WE HAVE TO DO NEXT MONTH. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I HAVE. STEPPING DOWN NEXT MONTH WILL BE MY LAST MEETING. I WILL BE JOINING. I'LL BE TAKING OVER DISTRICT THREE COUNCILMAN. SO WE AT THIS TIME, AT THAT TIME, WOULD YOU PLEASE CONSIDER SEE WHO WANTS TO BE TAKE OVER AS CHAIRMAN? I KNOW AT THIS TIME LORI HAS VOLUNTEERED THAT SHE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING CHAIRMAN FOR THE BOARD. WE WILL HAVE TO ALSO VOTE FOR A VICE CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRWOMAN, EITHER ONE, UNLESS YOU KNOW. SO IF YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME OR REACH OUT TO STAFF. THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE YOUR NAME READY FOR THE FOR VOTE FOR NEXT NEXT MONTH. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDS TO THAT? ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.