[1. CALL TO ORDER]
          [00:00:08]
          AT THIS TIME, THE MAYOR WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR 6 P.M. 
          TUESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 3RD, 2026. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 201 EAST NASH STREET, TERRELL, TEXAS. 
          HAVE ON THE DAIS WITH US THIS EVENING. DISTRICT TWO REPRESENTATIVE ARE DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WE HAVE DISTRICT THREE. MAY RONNY VELASQUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS AND DISTRICT FIVE PHIL ROBINSON, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH OUR MEETING. ALSO, HAVE OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MARK MILLS, WITH US AND LEGAL AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A NEIGHBOR TO COME FORWARD WITH NUEVA ESPERANZA CHURCH. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LEAD US IN. INVOCATION. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO THANK MAYOR RICK CARMONA AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH A WORD OF PRAYER. SO LET US PRAY. OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED. AND BLESSED BE THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME. YOUR NAME, JESUS CHRIST, WE HONOR YOU FIRST AND AND FOREMOST AND GLORIFY YOU ABOVE ALL THINGS. AND THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER MEETING TODAY. LORD, AT THIS TIME I PRAY FOR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE AND ISSUES THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY. LORD, I PRAY IN JESUS NAME THAT EVERY CITY ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE PASSED, EVERY REGULATION AND CITY CITY OPERATIONS WILL BE LED BY YOU AND WILL BENEFIT AND BE A BLESSING TO ALL THE CITIZENS OF TERRELL. AS IT SAYS IN YOUR WORD, LORD, IN ISAIAH 50 569, SEEK THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND, CALL UPON HIM WHILE HE IS HERE. LET THE WICKED FORSAKE HIS WAYS, AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS MAN HIS THOUGHTS. LET HIM RETURN TO THE LORD AND HAVE MERCY ON HIM, AND THAT GOD AND TO OUR GOD, FOR HE WILL ABUNDANTLY PARDON. FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, AND NOR YOUR ARE, NOR YOUR WAYS MY WAYS, SAYS THE LORD. FOR THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS. AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR WAYS, AND WE NEED YOUR THOUGHTS IN ORDER TO LEAD THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TERRELL. LET EVERY DECISION BE MADE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS OF TYRONE AND FOR ALL OUR, AND NOT FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS AND PERSONAL GAIN. LET THE WICKED FORSAKE HIS WAYS, AS YOUR WORD SAYS, JUST JUST AS YOUR WORD SAYS, BEGINNING WITH OUR CITY LEADERSHIP. LORD, LET IT BE A CLEANSING, PURIFICATION, SANCTIFICATION. BE LED BY YOU, MIGHTY GOD. HELP OUR CITY LEADERS TO DISCERN YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR WAYS. LET THERE BE A CLEANSING OF THE CITIZENS OF TERUEL AS WELL, TO MAKE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DECISIONS EASIER FOR OUR LEADERS OF THE CITY OF TERRELL. LORD, AT THIS TIME, I PRAY AND I INTERCEDE, LORD, FOR THE MAYOR AND ALL THIS. THE CITY COUNCIL, LORD MEMBERS AND ALL THE DISTRICTS. MY GOD, THAT YOU MAY BE THE ONE LEADING US. JESUS, LET YOUR WAYS REFLECT IN OUR STREETS, NEIGHBORHOODS, PRAYERS, BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS, AND FROM EARLY LEARNING PROGRAMS AND ALL THE WAY TO HIGH SCHOOLS, AND FROM THE MOST RECENT INFANT TO THE ELDERS OF ELDERS, BECAUSE OF THE LEADING AND YOUR GUIDING, WE ARE RECEIVING FROM YOU. AGAIN, IN YOUR WORD IT SAYS, I AM THE VINE, YOU ARE THE BRANCHES. HE WHO ABIDES IN ME AND I IN HIM BEARS MUCH FRUIT. FOR WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING. THAT IS WHY WE NEED YOUR THOUGHTS, AND THAT IS WHY WE NEED YOUR WAYS. 
          WE NEED YOUR PLANS BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU WE CAN DO NOTHING. AND ONCE AGAIN, BLESS AND LEAD OUR MAYOR, RICK CARMONA, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ALL THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND ALL THE CHALLENGES OF GOALS. AND THAT ALL MAY BE ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL AND ACCORDING TO YOUR PURPOSE IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME. AND EVERYONE SAYS AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THIS CITY AND OUR FAITH BASED PROGRAMS WITHIN THE CITY. CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE YOUR CONGREGATION. CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE YOUR KIDS TO BE GOOD CITIZENS AND STEWARDS OF THE CITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE CHALLENGE COIN ON ONE SIDE OF THIS TABLE. LEAD THE WAY. WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT AND ALSO BUILD A 
          [00:05:05]
LEGACY HERE. WE WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1873. SO CONTINUE THAT AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ALL 
          [2. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNITY RECOGNITION AND EVENTS]
RIGHT. COUNCIL, OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MAYOR AND COUNCIL. COMMUNITY RECOGNITION AND EVENTS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? MAYOR, I DO WANT TO THANK BERNIE AND ANY OTHER CITY OF TERRELL STAFF THAT ATTENDED THIS STALLINGS ADDITIONS NEIGHBORHOOD PARK ASSOCIATION. I KNOW THE CHIEF USED THE ATTENDS AS WELL. I WAS OUT OF TOWN SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. SO I HEAR THEY HAD QUESTIONS. I KNOW THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ONGOING PARK IMPROVEMENT, OR JUST EXCITED TO SEE WHEN WE KICK OFF THE NEXT STEP FOR CONTINUED DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT TO TO THEN CONTINUE THOSE ADDITIONAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BEING PRESENT. OKAY. OH NO. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY STAFF BASED ON THEIR SERVICE TO THIS CITY. WITH ALL THE BAD WEATHER WE HAD, THEY WERE OUT, THEY WERE ACTIVE. THEY WERE STANDING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAD SLID OFF THE IT HAD GOT OFF THE ROAD AND THE PATH. SO THAT WAS VERY REMARKABLE TO SEE THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND THE GUYS HAD TO WORK IN THE SUB TEMPERATURE WEATHER. SO WE APPRECIATE OUR STREET PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS OVER UTILITIES. IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE AT HOME AND WARM, YOU GUYS ARE OUT TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE. YES. 
          AND I HAVE I HAVE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMEND THE STREETS DIVISION. I THINK THAT'S THE STREETS DIVISION. THEY WERE WORKING BETWEEN CRENSHAW AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF BURNETT, AND THEY WERE GETTING THAT DONE. AND IT WAS COLD, BUT I MADE SURE TO STOP AND SAY, BE SAFE. BUT IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THEM OUT THERE. SO LET THEM KNOW THAT I AM MUCH APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND THIS MORNING, THE MAYOR AND I WERE AT THE TISD BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE GETTING A AN UPDATE ON WHERE ALL THE BOND MONEY WILL BE GOING AND THE PLANNING THAT WENT TOWARDS THAT. SO THAT WAS EXCITING AND INFORMATIVE. AND THEY HAVE STARTED. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY EXPOUND UPON WHAT COUNCILMAN HOLMES THOMAS HAD TO SAY. THERE'S SOME JOBS WHERE YOU CAN'T CALL IN SICK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR STREETS FOLKS. BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE AND FIRE ESPECIALLY. THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF US DURING THOSE BAD WEATHER DAYS, YOU KNOW, RESPONDED ALL THOSE CALLS WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR REX AND ALL THE CHAOS OUT THERE, JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. IT'S VERY APPRECIATED. YEAH. AND I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, WHENEVER THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT OR THERE'S SOMETHING INVOLVING THE CITY. 
          YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ENGAGED AND THERE'S COMMUNICATION GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MARK MILLS. HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB, AS DID OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND KEEPING EVERYBODY UP TO DATE AS TO WHAT THE WEATHER IS GOING TO DO, WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HIT AND HOW LONG IT WAS GOING TO LAST, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY SHOULD OPEN OR OR CLOSE OR SO. KUDOS TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU WHAT A WELL-MANAGED CITY LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT OPERATES. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ALL OF THESE GUYS UP HERE ON THE DAIS WITH ME WERE INVOLVED IN AND ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS. SO THANK EACH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I ALSO HAVE CAPTAIN ARLEIGH SANSON, WHO'S GOING TO INTRODUCE FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. DID I SAY DID I SAY CAPTAIN? THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. HEY. WELL, I, I'M READING OFF A SCRIPT. WHO DID THAT? IN KEEPING WITH I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS A JOKE, BUT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED ALONG WITH IT. IN KEEPING WITH OUR TRADITION, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO ME TO INTRODUCE THE NEW STAFF TO Y'ALL. SO. NO, I'LL TAKE THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO THROW HER 
          [00:10:04]
UNDER THE BUS. THAT WAS. THAT WAS THE MAYOR'S. THE MAYOR WILL READ ANYTHING YOU PUT IN FRONT OF HIM. YEAH, THAT WAS NOT DON'S FAULT. THAT'S THE MAYOR. GO AHEAD. SO WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS. Y'ALL ALL COME ON UP. ALRIGHT. WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME TO MY TO MY FAR RIGHT. DAISY AND DESTINEE MARTINEZ. THAT GIVES US THREE MARTINEZ'S NOW. OKAY, SO THEY ARE RECENT GRADUATES OF THE REGIONAL POLICE ACADEMY AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN THEY'RE ENGAGED IN THEIR FIELD TRAINING. AND WE HAVE BERNARDO GARZA AND COLE DONALDSON. THEY CAME TO US FROM THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS A PART OF OUR LATERAL ENTRY PROGRAM. SO THEY'LL BE STARTING THEIR THEIR FIELD TRAINING ON SUNDAY. SO WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE THEM. THEY BRING A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND AND A LOT OF TALENT HERE. 
          AND WE'RE WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE THEM ON THE STAFF SO. WELL CHIEF I WANT TO TELL THEM WHAT I KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. AND THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T HEARD IT FROM US AND CERTAINLY NOT FROM THE DYESS, BUT THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND YOU FOR YOU TO DO THE JOB THAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRAINED TO DO WITHIN THE CITY OF TERRELL. SO THANK YOU. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THOSE THAT HAVE COME LATERALLY AND THOSE NEW. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GOOD. YES. MAYOR. JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL. YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER AT THE LAST EXAM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAD 59 INDIVIDUALS PASS THE EXAM. YEP. 
          OF THOSE, 12 WERE ALREADY CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICERS. SO THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SIGNING BONUS HAS BORNE FRUIT OF THE 12. WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE HIRED TWO THERE. 
          THERE ARE NINE MORE IN THE NINE MORE CERTIFIED OFFICERS WITHIN THE POOL. CHIEF, I THINK YOU SAID WE HAD ABOUT 8 OR 9 POSITIONS THAT ARE FILLABLE. SO BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CERTIFIED, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO FILL, PLUS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE ON THE LIST FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT LATERALS. SO THE THE CHANGE IN COMPENSATION THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AS WELL AS THE THE INCENTIVE FOR THE LATERALS HAS, HAS REALLY PROVEN REALLY EFFECTIVE FOR US. AND ON THE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, GOING INTO THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, I BELIEVE WE HAD 14 INDIVIDUALS STILL IN THE QUEUE AND WE HAVE FIVE VACANCIES. 
          WONDERFUL. WE ARE MOVING CLOSER TO BEING FULLY STAFFED AND POLICE AND FIRE. YES. WAY TO GO COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. ABSOLUTELY. NEXT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS REMARKS FROM 
          [3. HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS.]
VISITORS. I DO HAVE ONE. DAVID LINDSAY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. DAVID'S DAD WAS A FORMER MAYOR. OH, DON'T GO THERE. RIGHT. DON'T. YEAH. IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT ABOUT DON LINDSAY. 
          BE HUMBLE, DON LINDSAY. ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD. DAVID. DAVID LINDSAY 311 TOWER CIRCLE I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN TERRELL. AND I'M ON OUR AIRPORT BOARD. AND I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE'RE THE BEST KEPT SECRET. WE WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE THERE'S TIMES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME AND ASK STUFF, AND WE GET TO SEE CHRIS AND PEYTON ALL THE TIME. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHO WE ARE A LOT. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT. WE'RE COMPLETELY REDOING ELECTRICAL OUT THERE THAT HAS ALREADY GONE OUT FOR BID AND BEEN AWARDED THROUGH TEX-DOT AVIATION BACK IN DECEMBER. WE'RE ONE OF FIVE AIRPORTS THAT ARE GETTING THAT SAME WORK DONE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE TIMELINE, BUT IT IS IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND ALSO, IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW THIS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A FUEL FARM OUT THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REALIZE HOW BIG OF A DEAL THAT IS, BUT EVERY TIME WE TALK TO PILOTS THAT COME IN, SELF-SERVICE FUEL IS A BIG THING. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 
          THEY CAN JUST DROP IN FROM THE SKY, FILL UP FUEL IF IT'S 10:00 OR MIDNIGHT OR WHENEVER. AND IT'S JUST LIKE GOING TO BROOKSHIRE'S, PUTTING YOUR CART IN, FILLING YOUR PLANE UP AND THEN FLYING ON OFF. AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US. THAT'S A BIG THING, NOT ONLY JUST FOR THE FUEL SALES, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE VISITING TERRELL, WHETHER IT'S AT MIDNIGHT OR IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WHICH THAT IS A GREAT THING FOR US. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH US IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH APEX, AND THEY ARE MANAGING OUR OPERATIONS OUT THERE NOW. AND WE WE HAVE JUST ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF THOSE GUYS. AND WE ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING US GO TO THE AVIATION CONFERENCES THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE BROUGHT A LOT OF STUFF BACK THAT HAS HELPED US, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS AN AERO TRACKING DEVICE, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE THING OUT THERE IN EVERY SINGLE PLANE THAT LANDS IN TERRELL OR EVEN FLIES INTO OUR PATTERN, WE'RE ABLE TO PICK THAT UP. WE'RE ABLE TO GLEAN THAT INFORMATION, WE'RE ABLE TO 
          [00:15:02]
KNOW WHO'S FLYING IN OUR AIRSPACE. AND JUST IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER ALONE, WE HAD ABOUT 6300 TOTAL OPERATIONS AT TERRELL AIRPORT. NOW, I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY THINKING, I DON'T SEE THAT MANY NOW. IT'S IT'S NOT THE WALMART DRONES, I PROMISE YOU. 
          EVERYBODY SEES THOSE. BUT THAT THAT HAS GONE UP IN EVERY SENSE. WE HAVE HAD THIS TRACKING DEVICE FROM AERO. WE'VE AVERAGED BETWEEN 4006 AND 6000 OPERATIONS PER MONTH. SO IF YOU SEE A LOT OF IT, OUR AIRPORT IS A MAJOR HUB FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING SCHOOL FLYING. AND THEY DO TOUCH AND GOES AND THEY DO THEIR LANDINGS AND THEY DO THEIR FLY ROUNDS HERE ALSO. BUT THE MAIN REASON WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU ALL IS SO NEXT TIME I COME UP HERE AND WE HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE. SO THANK Y'ALL. MAYOR, MR. MILLS, ALL THE COUNCIL PEOPLE WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL SUPPORT. AND WE JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW NOW THAT WE'RE MEETING HERE AT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NOT AT THE AIRPORT. WE'LL SEE YOU MORE OFTEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAVID. YEAH. FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW THERE THAT FUEL CELL IS A CAPTURED AUDIENCE. I HOPE WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF VIDEO THAT THEY CAN WATCH OR SEE WHILE THEY'RE FILLING UP. THAT'D BE A GOOD THING TO INVEST IN, I THINK. MARK, LOOK INTO THAT PLEASE. 
          NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS. THE CONSENT AGENDA. THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION. CONSIDER APPROVAL 
          [4. CONSENT AGENDA]
OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS HELD ON JANUARY THE 30TH OF 2026 AND ALSO OF JANUARY THE 20TH OF 2026. BOTH OF THOSE WERE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MINUTES. 
          IS THERE A MOTION ON 4.1? SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FROM DISTRICT TWO, A SECOND FROM PHIL ROBINSON, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM FROM DISTRICT FIVE, TO APPROVE THE ITEM 4.1 OR MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR JANUARY 13TH AND 20TH, THE 2026. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. I ANY 
          [5. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS]
OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY ALL THOSE PRESENT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 5.2. 
          CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW USE NUMBER 350 FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITY. MINI WAREHOUSE APPROXIMATELY 6.747 ACRES AT THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF FM 148 AND DAVIS LANE WITHIN THE TB SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 165, IN THE CITY OF TERRELL, KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY NUMBER ID NUMBER 5821. THIS WILL BE HANDLED BY JENNA. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I BRING TO YOU TONIGHT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT IS AT THE CORNER OF FM 148 DAVIS LANE. IT'S NEXT DOOR TO THE BIG ARENA. THIS OWNER, WHICH IS BROTHERS REAL ESTATE, IS HAS CARVED OUT OF THE 35 ACRES, 6.7 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACT WITH SIGNATURE STORAGE FOR THAT TENANT TO BUILD A SELF STORAGE UNIT AND THAT IS ALLOWED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OF HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. THAT'S DEFINITION 354 WHICH STATES SELF STORAGE FACILITY IN MANY WAREHOUSE. 
          WE'RE REQUESTING YOU TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE 3166. AND IT'S SP 2601. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS SUBMITTED THIS SP FOR THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY, AND IF IT IS APPROVED TONIGHT, THEY'LL TURN AROUND AND SUBMIT A CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND WE'LL PRESENT ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT. 
          13 LETTERS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE ABUTTING LANDOWNERS, AND AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES EITHER IN FAVOR OR NOT. I DID PRESENT THIS TO PNC BACK ON JANUARY 22ND, AND IT WAS RECEIVED 4 TO 1 IN FAVOR. IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE LOCATION OF THE 6.7. NOW, THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS THE TOTAL OF THE 35 ACRES. AND THEN THE DARK AREA IN BLACK IS THE FLOODPLAIN. SO YOU CAN SEE THE AREA THAT IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR SIGNATURE STORAGE IS BASICALLY IN THE INTO THE FLOOD ZONE. SO THEY'RE ALLOWABLE OR USING USABLE AREA IS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO A LITTLE OVER OR ABOUT FOUR ACRES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BUILD UPON. THE NEXT AREA IS THE ZONING, WHICH IS ALREADY HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. 
          [00:20:04]
AND THEN I WANT TO TAKE YOU AND MOVE OVER TO THE RENDERING THAT'S ON PAGE 11. AND THIS IS AN IDEA. THEY DO HAVE ANOTHER SELF STORAGE. AND THEY I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME TONIGHT AND ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE BUILT IN ANOTHER TOWN CLOSE BY. AND SO AND I ALSO HAVE SOME OF THEIR PLANS ON THE NEXT PAGE. BUT AGAIN, IF APPROVED TONIGHT THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN, AND I WILL PAUSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. JANET, AT THIS TIME THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR OR RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR SPECIFIC USE. PERMIT TO ALLOW USE NUMBER 350 FOR THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY MINI WAREHOUSE. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.2. MISTER MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE BRING TO YOU TONIGHT ORDINANCE NUMBER 3166, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER SP 20 6-01, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 31 B SP SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. APPENDIX TWO ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, TO BROTHERS REAL ESTATE PROPERTIES, LLC, A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OWNER, ALLOWING AN EXCEPTION TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 20, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL APPENDIX TWO, ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, FOR CERTAIN PROPERTIES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF FM 148 AND DAVIS LANE WITHIN THE TB FINLEY SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 165, IN THE CITY OF TERRELL, KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, DESCRIBED AND DEPICTED WITHIN EXHIBIT A AND B, ATTACHED HERETO, AND MADE A PART HEREOF, FOR ALL PURPOSES, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, PROVIDING A PENALTY, PROVIDING REPEALING, SAVINGS AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSES, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JANET. SO IT WAS A41 VOTE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE OPPOSITION WAS ON FROM THE MEMBER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING? NO, SIR. I DOUBT THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, A RESPONSE TO WHY SHE VOTED? NO. 
          JUST VOTED YES, SIR. JUST CURIOUS COUNCIL. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE LOOKED AT THIS. 
          HOW FAR SOUTH IS THIS? I'M TRYING TO SEE THE MAP, BUT I'M NOT REALLY. OKAY, SO YOU KNOW WHERE THE BIG ARENA IS? IT'S RIGHT AGAINST. DO YOU KNOW WHERE DAVIS LANE IS? THAT PRIVATE ROAD THAT HAS THE THE EXECUTIVE ESTATES, YOU KNOW, DOWN. SO IF YOU'LL YOU CAN ARENA I GOT IT OKAY. ALRIGHT. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE? THIS IS I'M TRYING TO RECALL WHAT YOU MENTIONED IN LOOKING AT THE MAP HERE. FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE BLUE IS THE DARK BLUE IS THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. THE LIGHT BLUE THE NEXT ONE OR RIGHT RIGHT THERE. SO THE DART THAT'S THE ZONING GO TO THE VERY NEXT ONE. KEEP GOING. WELL OKAY I'M SORRY. RIGHT. GO. YOU CAN GO NEXT. THAT'LL THAT'LL WORK. SO THE DARK BLUE IS THE EXECUTIVE. THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE EXECUTIVE ESTATES. THERE'S TIMES THAT WHEN. WE'RE IN THIS OUTSIDE. AND THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED MANY YEARS AGO. I THINK IT WAS IN 2017. THERE ARE TIMES THAT THE ZONING DOES NOT MEET UP WITH PROPERTY BOUNDARIES. AND THIS IS THE CASE HERE. SO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR DID NOT MEET UP WITH DAVIS LANE. HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PLAT PROCESS THERE WILL BE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA, THERE WILL BE LIMITS THAT THIS THIS PROPERTY OWNER OR THIS NEW PROPOSED BUYER WILL BE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN. AND THAT'S WHERE THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP, NOT FUTURE. YES, MA'AM. SO OKAY, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO THAT IS THE YELLOW RIGHT THERE IS THE THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. EXCUSE ME, I WAS MISLEADING AND THEN THEY 
          [00:25:01]
OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS WHEN THAT. OH OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS WHEN THE COMP PLAN WAS DONE IN 2017. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. RAYLAN. THE FUTURE LAND USE. YES, YES, YES. 
          BUT THE DAVIS LANE IS EXECUTIVE ESTATES. OKAY. AND THEN I JUST THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING. YES, YES. MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT. RIGHT. PNC MEMBER VOTED IF IT WAS AGAINST THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          BUT WE DO NOT HAVE WE DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE SINCE 2017. THAT'S RIGHT. THIS MAY JUST BE A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER RELATED TO THIS, BUT AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO, UPON ANNEXING AN AREA, CHANGE THE ZONING TO REFLECT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY IMMEDIATELY UPON THE ANNEXATION? THERE'S A TIME FRAME, CORRECT? IT IS, BUT THIS IS ALREADY HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. SO WE'RE GOOD IN THIS AREA. OKAY. THE NEXT APPLICATION I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WE'RE TAKING CARE OF WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO WE'LL BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT. OKAY? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE AGAIN? THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 3166. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ONE APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING? SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO, A SECOND FROM RONNY VELASQUEZ, DISTRICT THREE, TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 3166 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES AND THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 5.3. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING A ZONE CHANGE FROM AG TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ON 6.97 ACRES OF THE. 
          THE JACOB SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 86, LOT ONE, BLOCK A IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. ALSO KNOWN AS 15 950 STATE HIGHWAY 205 TERRELL, TEXAS, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY NUMBER 235775. ZONE CHANGE, A 2601 26 3167 JANA. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. NOW THIS PROPERTY HERE WAS ANNEXED IN 2023 AND IT'S CURRENTLY AGRICULTURE. AND THE OWNERS HAVE COME TO US AND ASKED THAT THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY REZONED TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. NOW THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO DO THE WHOLE PROPERTY OF 61 ACRES. SO WHAT WE DID ON JANUARY THE 22ND THAT WE WENT IN AND PNC GRANTED A FINAL PLAT AND WE CARVED OUT 6.97 ACRES FOR THEM AND FOR JUST TO CONFIRM AND IDENTIFY THE THE BUILDING, THE GUN RANGE FACILITY AND THE FRONTAGE THAT ABUTS STATE HIGHWAY 205. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO GRANT THIS ZONE CHANGE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR FOR THAT 6.97 ACRES. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY GARDNER LOGISTICS. WE SENT OUT 1113 ABUTTING LANDOWNERS, THE PUBLICATION, AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE. NOT IN FAVOR. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ZONE. CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. AND THIS APPLICATION WAS APPROVED TO PNC ON JANUARY THE 22ND WITH A VOTE OF 5 TO 0 IN FAVOR. IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE IT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THE GUN RANGE. THE PROPERTY ID IS THE 235775. AND JUST TO ACCLIMATE YOU, YOU SEE THE COUNTY ROAD 243 AND THE PROPERTY THE GUN RANGE FRONTS 205. RIGHT THERE ON THAT HARD CORNER IS THE MAMA'S FIREWORKS. IF YOU KEEP GOING OVER AND IF. DON, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE GOOGLE PICK AND IT SHOWS THE FRONT OF. OF THE. THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE. 
          IT'S ON PAGE SIX, THE FRONT PAGE OF THE. THERE YOU GO. SO YOU SEE THE THE THE BUILDING. 
          THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THEIR CLUBHOUSE THAT IS THAT FRONT AREA, THE SIX ACRES THAT THEY HAVE FINAL PLATTED AND THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THEN THAT. THAT ZONE CHANGE GOING FORWARD. 
          [00:30:08]
THE NEXT PAGE IS THE THE FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS THE HERITAGE WHICH FOLLOWS SUIT WITH WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS THE AGRICULTURE. THEN YOU HAVE THE BUFFER ZONE MAP, THE ABUTTING LANDOWNERS, AND AT THE VERY END YOU HAVE THEN THE ONE RESPONSE FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT VOTED IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. AND I WILL COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. JANA, AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING A ZONE CHANGE FROM AG TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ON 6.97 ACRES IN THE J SURVEY. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.4. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE BRING TO YOU TONIGHT ORDINANCE NUMBER 3167 ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION ZC 20 6-01, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, AMENDING APPENDIX TWO, ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TERRELL AND CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM AGRICULTURE AG TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR H ON APPROXIMATELY 6.97 ACRES OF PROPERTY AS LOCATED IN THE J SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 86, LOT ONE, BLOCK A, IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, IDENTIFIED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY ID 235775 AND FURTHER KNOWN AS 15980, SH 205 TERRELL, TEXAS, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AND DEPICTED WITHIN THE GENERAL WARRANTY DEED, ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT A AND PLAT, ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT B, AND MAY DEPART HEREOF FOR ALL PURPOSES, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, PROVIDING A PENALTY, PROVIDING, REPEALING AND SAVINGS AND SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AGAIN, COUNCIL. THIS IS A50 VOTE BY OUR PNC. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JANA? I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY, JANA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD LOOKING AT THE PICTURE WITH THE MAP ON IT, WITH THE GREEN, WITH THE. IT'S JUST KIND OF WEIRD. 
          ARE THERE, HOMES? YOU KNOW WHERE THE TWO LITTLE LEGS ARE OR THEIR HOMES THEY'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE OR WHAT? NO, THERE'S NO HOMES IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. NOW, THERE ARE HOMES GOING DOWN. 243 ON ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT NOT ANYTHING IN THIS, THIS AREA HERE, THE, THE WEST SIDE. SO THE RECTANGLE KIND OF NEAR THE TOP RIGHT. WELL NOT TOP RIGHT BUT MIDDLE RIGHT THAT'S LEFT OUT. IS THAT GOING TO STILL BE. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE. OKAY. SO RIGHT HERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE MAMA'S FIREWORKS IS. AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THAT IS OUR GAS STORAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU. AND WE DID THE ZONE CHANGE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ON THAT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE GUN RANGE. THE PROPERTY SURROUNDS THAT AREA. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. DID OUR OUR DID WE APPROACH THE THE APPLICANT OR DID THE APPLICANT APPROACHES? ARE WE DOING SOME CLEANUP? THE APPLICANT CAME TO US. THEY'RE GETTING READY TO EXPAND THEIR THEIR CLUBHOUSE AND DO SOME WORK THERE. IF THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOOD AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE ROOM FOR NEW MEMBERS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IF MY NEXT QUESTION, YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT EARLIER. EXCUSE THEM CAME IN. NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. BUT IT IT OKAY THAT THAT THAT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND WHY WHY THEY CAME FORWARD. YES MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? AND NOT TO BE TOO PARTICULAR NITPICKY HERE, BUT BUT THIS IS ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE HAVE A CLEAR IDEA WHY WE DIDN'T UPDATE THE FUTURE LAND USE OR ZONING UPON COMPLETION OF ANNEXATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRACT OF LAND? I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE TYPICAL PROCEDURE. CORRECT? YES. THAT IS THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT, BUT. I CANNOT ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. SO IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING AS AGRICULTURAL SINCE ANNEXATION OCCURRED. OKAY. YES, SIR. IF THEY SEND AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, WOULD THAT NOT? LEGAL? YES. IF THEY HAVE AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, IT COMES IN ALL PROPERTY THAT'S ANNEXED IN ORIGINALLY COMES IN AS AGRICULTURAL. NOW THERE'S NO TIME SET TIME THAT IT HAS TO BE CHANGED. IF IT COMES IN AS AG. AND THEN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP MIGHT SHOW IT AS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OR IF A PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTS A ZONING CHANGE, 
          [00:35:01]
AS WAS THE CASE HERE, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THERE IS A TIME FRAME DURING BY WHICH IT HAS TO BE UPDATED OR CHANGED. SO THE CASE AS FAR AS THE AS WHEN YOU ANNEX IT, IN IT, EVERYTHING COMES IN AS AG, AS AGRICULTURE. SO BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOES READ THAT WITHIN 18 MONTHS THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ZONING. BUT AS FAR AS EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL, DID THEY HAVE AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT SAID WE WOULD NOT CHANGE YOUR ZONING? WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE. BUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES READ THAT WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF ANNEXATION THAT THE CITY GENERALLY BECAUSE WHAT WE JUST RAN INTO, YOU DON'T HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT LETS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT THERE SO THAT COUNCIL IS ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS AS THEY BRING IN PROPERTY. SO THIS SHOULD BE AN ISSUE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT'S A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ANNEXING ANY OTHER PROPERTIES. BUT YOU KNOW, IT DEFINITELY MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO KIND OF DIRECT OUR EFFORTS IF WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THE FUTURE USE OF THESE ANNEXED LANDS ARE GOING TO BE, SO ARE WE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THESE COMING BEFORE US SOON TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS GOING TO BE? IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING MORE CALLS. OKAY. WHAT THESE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE SEEING IS THAT THERE'S MOVEMENT, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S KIND OF SPARKING INTEREST OUT THERE. AND SO I HAVE TWO OTHER BUSINESSES NOW THAT ARE WANTING TO COME IN AND TALK TO US. OKAY. SO I FORESEE MORE OF THESE COMING IN TO HELP FURTHER ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN, IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO PARTAKE IN HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, THAT PART OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS FOR YOU, AS THE COUNCIL, AS ALL THE LAND THAT WAS ANNEXED IN AS AG IS TO DEFINE WHAT THAT FUTURE USE IS GOING TO BE. SO A LOT OF THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THAT TIME. BUT AS WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEING BASICALLY CLEANED UP ITEMS. OKAY. THE ULTIMATE IS WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMPLETE, YOU AS A COUNCIL WILL DECIDE ALL WHAT THE PROPERTY OF THE FUTURE USE WILL BE, WHAT THAT LAND USE WILL BE. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO KIND OF KEEP PUTTING THESE BEFORE P AND Z. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL ALL THESE FORMERLY OR THESE NEWLY ANNEXED AREAS ARE GOING TO BE AGRICULTURAL, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY CLEAR IDEA FROM COUNCIL WHAT OUR INTENT IS WITH THESE, THESE PROPERTIES. 
          RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO KIND OF DIRECT THEIR EFFORTS. YEAH. NO, I AGREE. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THE COMP PLAN 2017. AND HOW OFTEN ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO IT? ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS ON YOUR GROWTH. SO WE NEED TO MARK. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE LATER OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR JANET? IF NOT THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 31673167. IS THERE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 3167. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM PHIL ROBERTSON OUR MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FIVE A SECOND FROM MAY, RONNY VELASQUEZ, DISTRICT THREE, TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 3167 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
          [6. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS]
MOTION CARRIED. AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 6.1 DISCUSSION. CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE FACILITIES NAMING COMMITTEE. 
          MARK, THIS IS YOURS. YES, SIR. THE NAMING COMMITTEE IS A NINE MEMBER BOARD. WE RECEIVED AN APPOINTMENT FOR DISTRICT TWO, THE ONLY REMAINING. JUST THE ONLY REMAINING VACANCY RIGHT NOW IS TO REPLACE STEVE HUI, WHO IS VACATING THE POSITION FOR DISTRICT FIVE. AND THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL ROBINSON. COUNCILMAN, I'M PROUD TO APPOINT JIM MCGINTY TO DISTRICT FIVE FOR THE NAMING COMMITTEE, SO HE'S VERY EXCITED TO TAKE PART, BE A GREAT FIT. 
          YEP, I LIKE THAT. SO IS THAT A MOTION? MOTION TO APPOINT JIM MCGINTY TO THE FACILITIES NAMING COMMITTEE? WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM PHIL ROBERTSON, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FIVE, A SECOND FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FROM DISTRICT TWO, TO APPOINT JIM MCKINNEY TO HER NAMING OF FACILITIES NAMING COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I, I I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES NONE OF ALL 
          [7. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
THOSE PRESENT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 7.1. DISCUSS OUR COMMUNITY DOG PARK, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND PROJECT DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO CHAT ABOUT DOGS. GOOD EVENING 
          [00:40:04]
MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU BEFORE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS WITHIN YOUR PACKET. I PROVIDED SOME JUST THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WOULD A DOG PARK GO? THESE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME NON-NEGOTIABLES ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. 
          REMINDING YOU THAT CROSSROADS HAS A DOG PARK. AND SO LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, INITIALLY WE HAD LOOKED AT BINGO. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PARKING, THERE'S SOME STADIUM FOOTBALL GAMES AND SOCCER GAMES THAT MAY BE GOING ON THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC THERE, AS WELL AS IT BEING ON HIGHWAY 80. BUT WITH THAT BEING A HALF ACRE, I DID GO WITHIN BEING GILL AND AROUND TOWN TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE ACCOMMODATE THE SAME FOOTPRINT. 
          SO THE OTHER PROPOSED SPACES WERE BINGO, RAIL CAR. ALSO LOOKING AT ONE OF THE UNION PACIFIC PARCELS THAT WE PURCHASED THERE AT TOWN SQUARE, WHICH WOULD PUT YOU A DOG PARK DOWNTOWN. AND THEN ALSO, JUST AS A REMINDER, WE OWN THE COLLEGE STREET BLOCK AS WELL, WHICH IS ONE ACRE, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING OFF OF THE SAME ASSUMPTION. THE FUNDING AND AMENITIES ASSUMPTIONS. SO THERE YOU HAVE IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DOG PARK, YOU KNOW IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2 TO $300,000 INVESTMENT. AND SO REALLY THIS WAS JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON. NO DECISIONS. WE JUST NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO VISIT THIS FROM TIME TO TIME AND AND GET THE COUNCIL'S INPUT AS TO THE DIRECTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF GO. MY OPINION, AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION WOULD BE IF YOU WANT FOOT TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN, THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE AREA WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION, BUT FOR FUTURE. 
          DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER USE THAN THE DOG PARK. THE THE OTHERS. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE PROHIBITIVE AT BEN GILL ON US 80 JUST BECAUSE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE FOOTBALL GAMES AND PARKING, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS WHEN FOOTBALL GAMES ARE GOING ON OR SOCCER GAMES, THAT WOULD BE HARD TO GET TO. THERE MAY BE A SECOND IDEA AT COLLEGE STREET THAT SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE OF OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, BUT THIS IS YOUR TIME TO LET RAYLAND KNOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ACCESS IF WE DID THE. THE PLAN? AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE OPTIONAL OPTIONS, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT OUR EXISTING PARKS AND EVEN YESTERDAY'S EDITION MEETING WITH US, HAVING STARTED WORK AT THE PARK THERE AND STILL NEEDING SOME WORK TO CONTINUE. SOME OF THIS GIVES ME ME HEARTBURN IN TERMS OF. YOU MAKING SURE WE DON'T LEAVE OTHER PROJECTS BEHIND, BUT I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE IN MOVING. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING. IF WE DID THE PARK OVER AT CROSSROADS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THE FUNDING THAT EXISTS FOR THE PARK THERE VERSUS SO THE CROSSROADS PARK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE GRANT PROVISIONS, ALREADY INCLUDES A DOG PARK. SO THERE IS NO EXPENSE TO THE CITY. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A PADDOCK INITIATIVE. SO IF YOU ALL DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD A DOG PARK, THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST TO PADDOCK TO INCLUDE IT IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. SO PADDOCKS NOT ASKING TO REPLACE ANYTHING AT STALLINGS, BUT IF PADDOCK IS ASKED TO FUND A DOG PARK THEN I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CHANCE THAT THEY COULD DECIDE THAT THAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMETHING. NOT THE WORDING IS NOT RIGHT, BUT SO THIS IDEA HAS NOT BEEN FLOATED TO PADDOCK BECAUSE THIS WAS MORE OF A CITY COUNCIL REQUEST. AND SO PADDOCK IS JUST YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE STUCK TO 
          [00:45:05]
THEIR PROGRAM OF WORK WHICH THEY ADOPTED. AND SO THIS IS JUST ME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF OPTIONS DOES THE CITY COUNCIL WANT TO FUND, OR WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES DO YOU WANT PADDOCK TO LOOK AT? BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, WE'LL TRY TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDING. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE ONE PARK, ONE DOG PARK THAT'S COMING. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY AT CROSSROADS? CROSSROADS. SO THIS WOULD BE A POTENTIAL SECOND DOG PARK. OKAY, IT I'M OPEN TO HEARING JUST A BIT MORE ABOUT FUNDING AND AND CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN, I LOVE DOGS, BUT MY CONSTITUENTS ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, I LOST MY LITTLE ONE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. BUT, YOU KNOW, MY MY CONSTITUENTS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK AT OUR EXISTING PARKS CONTINUES. AND SO I, I WOULD HAVE SOME HEARTBURN OVER IF I HAD TO CHOOSE OVER ONE PROJECT VERSUS ANOTHER. AND IF WE SAW ONE MOVING FASTER THAN THE OTHER. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE WORK IS COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF UTILITIES AT ONE PARK VERSUS THE OTHER, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS FIXING TO SAY. IT IS. IT'S A LOT LESS TIME CONSUMING TO THROW UP A DOG PARK IF YOU WANTED TO PROVIDE AN AMENITY SOMEWHERE. IT IS LESS DESIGN, LESS TIME CONSUMING THAN, SAY, A NEW PAVILION WITH A FOUNDATION OR A TILE BASKETBALL COURT. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR STAFF TO PRODUCE. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT LOW HANGING FRUIT. IF THIS IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, I'M TRYING TO. 
          TO, IN A WAY CONVINCE MYSELF TO, YOU KNOW, LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO A SECOND DOG PARK. 
          EXCEPT I RECALLING THE LAST PRESENTATION AND, YOU KNOW, SOME DATA THAT WE EITHER TALKED ABOUT OR I WAS REVIEWING ABOUT POPULATION WISE AND HOW MANY PARKS AND THE SIZE OF OF THOSE AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARK OR THE FUTURE PARK AT CROSSROADS VERSUS THE SECOND PARK, THE THE SIZE, THE, THE AMENITIES. TRYING TO THINK BACK ABOUT THE POPULATION AND WHAT WHAT IS IS COMMON RIGHT NOW IN COMMUNITIES FOR SIZE AND POPULATION IS IS WELL. SO I'M NOT FULLY IN AT THIS TIME. I THINK THE HARD PART IS REALIZING 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO PARK RICH BECAUSE OF THE GREEN SPACE, BECAUSE OF THE PARKS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED AMONGST OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. I HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR PARK STAFF ABOUT WE HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT'S COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE. 
          YOU HAVE ACRES UPON ACRES OF PARK SPACE THAT IS ON THE HORIZON TO BE. RECEIVED BY THE CITY OF TERRELL AS THESE CONSTRUCTION PLATS COME IN, COME IN. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ARBORETUM THAT'S GOING IN. AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE BRING FORWARD TO YOU, REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE PARK SPACE DEDICATION. BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS A HUGE. IT WAS A HUGE POINT THERE FOR A LONG TIME. BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE IN YOUR FUTURE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH LIKE, LET'S REALLY WORK ON WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT. AND AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SAYING TO THE CURRENT STAFF, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING FORWARD. YOU'VE SEEN THE CONCEPT PLANS. YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PARKS IN TERRELL IN THE FUTURE. RAYLAN I LIKE DOGS. I KNOW YOU OWN ONE. I DON'T OWN A DOG. I KNOW THAT'S WE KNOW WHERE YOU CAN LITTLE IRONIC, BUT YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE AVAILABLE I HAVE PUPPIES, I'M STRONGLY CONSIDERING IT, BUT I ALSO HAVE A TODDLER CURRENTLY, SO IT'S I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND A LOT, BUT SO MY THOUGHT IS I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT US WANTING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PARKS COMING, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THEM ARE, EXCEPT FOR THE CROSSROADS PARK IS A DOG PARK, BUT THAT PARK IS. THAT'S WAY OFF ON ITS OWN ISLAND. IT'S NOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE CAN'T WALK THEIR DOG TO THE DOG PARK THERE. 
          IT'S JUST NOT IN A GOOD SPOT FOR A FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN SORT OF THE 
          [00:50:05]
DISTRICT FIVE. DISTRICT THREE. DISTRICT TWO. WELL, DISTRICT TWO, BUT IT'S JUST OFF THE BEATEN PATH, SO WE NEED SOMETHING CLOSER IN. I SHARE THE THE MAYOR'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION WITH PUTTING IT BY THE STADIUM. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE RAIL CAR. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SPOT FOR IT. LOTS OF GREEN SPACE THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE USE OUR EXISTING PARKLAND IN A WAY THAT'S JUST WE'RE FENCING IT, WE'RE ENHANCING IT. WE'RE MAKING IT NICE. IT'S JUST ANOTHER AMENITY WE'RE ADDING TO BINGO PARK. BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO THE IDEA OF THE THE DOWNTOWN TOWN SQUARE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, USURPING OR STEPPING ON ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT, THAT AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON ANY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN GET TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN. IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COMING DOWN THERE TO GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR DOGS PLAY TOGETHER, THEY ENJOY DOWNTOWN AND THEY WALK OVER AND THEY GET A COFFEE SOMEWHERE WITH THEIR DOG OR THEY WALK OVER. AND TO ME, HAVING THESE KIND OF SHARED EXPERIENCES WHERE YOU, YOU ATTRACT FOLKS BECAUSE OF AN AMENITY AND THEN THE BUSINESSES BENEFIT. I THINK THAT'S THAT HAS A MORE OF A DOUBLE WHAMMY AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING. IF THEY'RE KIND OF OFF ON AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF BEN GILL, YOU'RE NOT REALLY BENEFITING BUSINESSES AS MUCH. SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT NEAR BUSINESSES TO ATTRACT PEOPLE THERE. I THINK THAT'S KEY. THAT WAY YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY, BUT YOU'RE GETTING PROBABLY SALES TAX BACK BECAUSE OF IT, YOU KNOW. WELL, AND WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT MORE WHEN I SAY TEMPORARY, I DON'T MEAN LIKE 12 TO 24 MONTHS. BUT IF WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. YEAH. 
          THE WROUGHT IRON FENCING, THE AGILITY PLAY YARD, WHATEVER IS PLACED IN THAT AREA, NO MATTER WHAT LOCATION YOU CHOOSE, YOU CAN PICK IT UP AND GO MOVE IT WITH THAT SAME DIMENSION AND SET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH, SO WE COULD MAKE IT MORE MODULAR TO WHERE WE MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING A REAL PERMANENT, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A CHEAP, THROWN TOGETHER THING. I WANT IT TO BE A NICE PART. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SOMETIMES THESE MODULAR THINGS CAN LOOK A LITTLE LIKE THEY CAN LOOK TEMPORARY. SO I WANT IT TO BE A NICE FACILITY FOR OUR FOR OUR PEOPLE. BUT I WANT TO REITERATE, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THINK DOG PARK AND IT'S LIKE SOME PIE IN THE SKY. LUXURIOUS. I HEAR CONSTANTLY FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT A DOG PARK. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF, YOU KNOW, CREATING EXPERIENCES WHERE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY AND OUR COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY HAVE A SHARED EXPERIENCE. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A DOG PARK, EVERYBODY'S TALKING AND HANGING OUT AND GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER. IT'S JUST A IT'S A GOOD SOCIAL EXPERIENCE THAT BUILDS COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T LIKE THE COLLEGE STREET SPOT. I JUST IT DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD FLOW TO ME AS FAR AS KIND OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED THERE. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE IN PLAY THAT MIGHT BE A MORE APPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT SPOT, BUT FOR ME, IT'S EITHER IF WE WANT TO ENHANCE BUSINESS AND KIND OF GET A DUAL BENEFIT THERE. I LOVE THE DOWNTOWN PIECE, BUT I WOULD ALSO BE IN FAVOR OF THE RAIL CAR SITUATION AS WELL. THOSE ARE THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO FAVORITE PICKS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU PLAN ON SEEING POSSIBLY IN THE PADDOCK PROGRAM OF WORK? BECAUSE I'LL START GOING TO PADDOCK IN APRIL, OR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR 27. SO IS THIS AN IDEA THAT YOU WANT ME TO PUSH DOWN TO PADDOCK, TO WHERE WE WOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR? OR I GUESS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO HAPPEN. NOW, I DON'T THINK I MY FEELING IS WE'VE WE'VE BEEN PLANNING IT FOREVER. I FEEL LIKE IT'S IF WE CAN GET IT DONE SOONER THAN LATER, BUT IF WE CAN. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. PHIL, I LIKE THE DOWNTOWN. OKAY. I'M THINKING OF OUR FESTIVALS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR DOGS ON THE SIDEWALKS. IF WE HAD A DOG PARK, THEY WOULD LITERALLY DO A BEELINE. YEAH. AND JUST KIND OF HANG OUT THERE. AND SO I LIKE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND IF WE CAN HAVE THE MONEY INSTEAD OF PUSHING IT TO PADDOCK, I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF. HAVING CHRISTMAS FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO THE CITY INSTEAD OF WAITING. IF WE CAN DO IT BEFORE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          THAT'S JUST AN IDEA. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. THAT WAY WHEN WE GIVE, WHEN WE DO HAVE OUR NEXT BIG JOINT FESTIVALS, WE HAVE A DOG PARK AND IT WILL BE USED. TRULY, WE SHOULD HAVE 
          [00:55:01]
LOTS OF GREEN BAGS. SO IF I BROUGHT FORWARD A FUNDING REQUEST BECAUSE I'M ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THAT AND A REALLY CONCISE BUDGET, DO I HAVE CONSENSUS FROM CITY COUNCIL THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE DOWNTOWN TOWN SQUARE LOCATION? TELL ME EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS. 
          I'M HAVING PROBLEMS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE UNION. IT LOOKS LIKE THE UNION PACIFIC PARCEL. 
          SO IF YOU ARE ON CATHERINE AND YOU CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS, IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TO THE MERCO BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE VACANT LOTS, AND WE COULD EVEN PUSH IT CLOSER TO THE TRAIN STATION, WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE THE LIBRARY IN THE WINGS PROGRAM. 
          AND WE HAVE ACTIVITIES THERE BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOVING SOME OF OUR OUTDOOR EVENTS. SO WE MAY PUSH IT CLOSER TO THE TRAIN DEPOT, BUT WE OWN THOSE UNION PACIFIC PARCELS THERE ALONG SOUTH ALLEY. I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING SORT OF SCENIC THERE BY THE TRAIN DEPOT. THAT'S KIND OF NICE. BUT IT THE ARE WE GOING TO WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE THE TRAIN NOISE GOING RIGHT BY THERE. IS THAT GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM? A LOT OF DOGS WITH ANXIETIES WHEN THAT TRAIN COME BY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED. YEAH. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THE BIG I SEE YOU HAVE JUST LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE EVENTS. THERE'S TONS OF DOGS I MEAN I YEAH. RAYLAN I'M THINKING OUT LOUD. OKAY. SO HOW SOON WILL CROSSROADS DOG PARK BE? WE'RE STILL AT LEAST 18 MONTHS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING IF IT WERE SOONER, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE. I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE TO SEE AND MAYBE SEE THE DEMAND AND KNOW THEN WHICH DIRECTION TO GO, BUT I LIKE I LOVE THE IDEA OF IT BEING TEMPORARY AND BEING ABLE TO MOVE IT. I THINK THAT'S A SELLING POINT FOR ME. AND MAYBE DO. NOT AS BIG, BUT BEING ABLE TO EXPAND IT IF IT IS A BIG HIT TO MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE CUT THE COST A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AND SEE IF THE DEMAND IS THERE, AND IF IT IS, THEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE REALLY ALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE FENCING. 
          YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. I'M JUST THINKING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEARN A LOT FROM ANOTHER DOG PARK. THE THINGS THAT YOU DO AND DON'T DO OR WANT TO DO HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND HEAR SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE LAND ON SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT. DO WE LIKE THAT LOCATION AS FAR AS LIKE EXPLORING? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THE THE ALLOCATION? OKAY, I THINK SO TOO. I'M IN FAVOR OF DOWNTOWN. HAVE TO BE THERE. SO I'LL JUST I'LL COME BACK IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT MORE OF IT, LIKE A TEMPORARY BASIS WHERE THE AGILITY COURTS AND I MEAN ANYTHING WE CAN PICK UP AND GO MOVE TO A MORE PERMANENT SPOT. OR MAYBE WE HAVE A TRAVELING DOG PARK, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL EXPLORE THAT. I MIGHT GET A DOG. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN I MEAN, WE WE WEREN'T I DON'T THINK WE WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE A DEFINITE. YEAH, LET'S DO IT TONIGHT. BUT IT IS TRYING TO PUT RAYLAN ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. RIGHT. SO SHE HAS SOME FEEDBACK AND SHE CAN GET BACK WITH THE COUNCIL ON EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. WE'LL DO. ALRIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS. 7.2 DISCUSS UPDATE ON MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ASSOCIATED GRANT ACTIVITIES. RAYLAN. SO ALL THOSE THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST FEW MINUTES, I PUT TOGETHER A SPREADSHEET BECAUSE I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. IT'S REALLY HARD TO READ, BUT WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE. THESE ARE THOSE REALLY BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW FOR AT LEAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I CAME ON. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REMIND Y'ALL THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. WE LOVE THE TERM QUIET ZONES. SO WE HAVE A STANDING APPLICATION, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD APPLICATION. WE'VE DONE SOME EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH THE FRA. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE. AND THERE'S NOT BIGGER, MORE LIKE EMERGENCY BASED APPLICATIONS THAT ARE AHEAD OF US. BUT WE DID GET SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK. BUT I WANT TO TALK A FEW SECONDS ABOUT QUIET ZONES. 
          SO WHEN WE APPLY FOR CHRISSY OR ARCHIE OR THE BUILD A FEW YEARS AGO, I ALWAYS LAUGHED. I DON'T USE THE WORD QUIET ZONES. I SAY THAT THEY'RE CROSSING UPGRADES BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR 
          [01:00:02]
GRANTS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO A QUIET ZONE. YOU QUALIFY FOR GRANTS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO UPGRADE THE SAFETY OF ALL OF YOUR CROSSINGS. AND SO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN THIS GRANT IS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EVERY SINGLE CROSSING, AND WE WANT TO DO THE ABSOLUTE MOST SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE CAN AT EACH CROSSING. AND ONCE THAT IS DONE, THEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU APPLY FOR THE QUIET ZONE STATUS. AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMIND THIS GROUP BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS SINCE WE FIRST STARTED THIS GRANT PROCESS. IT'S JUST LIKE, I DON'T CALL VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA, I CALL IT SPUR 557 BECAUSE THAT MEANS IT'S TEX DOT FUNDING. SO I DON'T CALL IT QUIET ZONES. I CALL IT CROSSING UPGRADES, SAFETY UPGRADES TO DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY GETS YOU THE FUNDING. SO I JUST I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHENEVER YOU ARE TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, QUIET ZONES IS NOT JUST TURNING OFF THE HORN, IT IS THOSE TWO ARM CROSSINGS. IT'S FULL MEDIANS. IT I MEAN, WE ARE PUTTING SAFETY FEATURES INTO EACH ONE OF OUR CROSSINGS, WHICH I'LL KEEP IN MIND IS 11. 
          WE'RE GOING AFTER 11 CROSSINGS. AND THEN I THINK IT'S ALSO BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU DO ONCE, ONCE WE RECEIVE THE GRANT FUNDING, WHICH I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL, AND WE APPLY FOR THAT QUIET ZONE STATUS, THAT'S WHEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL. 
          BECAUSE JUST LIKE KIND OF WITH TEXDOT, WHENEVER YOU MOVE AHEAD OF TEXDOT, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE. THEY, THEY LOVE WHEN YOU GET AHEAD OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. SO QUIET ZONES. WE CONTINUE TO APPLY. IT REMAINS IN THE PADDOCK PROGRAM OF WORK. 
          WE KNOW THAT IT IS A $20 MILLION PROJECT, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A $4 MILLION MATCH, WHICH STAYS IN THE PADDOCK PROGRAM OF WORK. LOS LOMAS IS ALSO WE. WE'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR THE SAME TYPE OF GRANT WHEN IT COMES TO LOS LOMAS, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES A BRIDGE OVER A RAILROAD TRACK. AND SO WE'RE ALSO GETTING RID OF A CROSSING FURTHER DOWN WEST IN TERRELL. 
          SO I KNOW THAT MR. MILLS PUT IN A MESSAGE TO Y'ALL LAST WEEK. WE DID RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION FROM TXDOT AUSTIN THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY FOR OUR LOS LOMAS GRANT, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A VERY GOOD GRANT THAT WENT FORWARD WITH THE TEX-DOT RAIL CROSSING. AND SO WE JUST CONTINUE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION. AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AGAIN, A $20 MILLION PROJECT. THE REQUIRED MATCH IS SITTING WITH THE EDC. YOU HAVE TXDOT SIDEWALKS. THIS IS THE PROJECT ALONG HIGHWAY 80. THINK ABOUT THIS NEXT TO BROOKSHIRE'S, WHATABURGER, THE STADIUM, ETC. WE MET WITH THEM TODAY. WE THINK THAT WE'VE GOT SOME IDEAS MOVING FORWARD. THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT RIGHT OF WAYS AND EASEMENTS, BUT WE THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT THAT SIDEWALK PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. NORTH TEXAS COG. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION CREDITS SINCE I GOT HERE AS WELL. WE'VE THROWN A FEW IDEAS AT THEM. THE LATEST IDEA WE THINK IS PERFECTLY IN LINE WITH POSSIBLY A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITH AT ROSE HILL ROAD. AND SO WE HAVE PITCHED THE IDEA TO COG THAT WE COULD USE THOSE TRANSPORTATION CREDITS. YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT ALL OF YOUR GOOGLE MAPS AND WAZE ARE NOW PUSHING PEOPLE DOWN TO ROSE HILL FROM I-20. 
          THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT TELLING THEM TO EXIT. 148 SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT TRAFFIC DATA, PLUS THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ALONG ROSE HILL. AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO DO IS HOPING THAT COG WILL APPLY THOSE TRANSPORTATION CREDITS TO GET US THE FULL BUILD OUT AT ROSE HILL, WHICH IS THE LIGHTING, AND TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT. AND SO WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT. WHAT WE CALL BACHELOR CREEK IS THE HIGHWAY. 205 UTILITIES. BACK IN 2018, THERE WAS A CO THAT WAS APPROVED FOR WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. WE HAVE GONE IN AND RECONCILED THAT CO. THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE HIGHWAY 205 UTILITIES. SO WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU WITH A CHANGE ORDER. SO WITH THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE FROM T.W. DB, WE'RE GOING TO DO A CHANGE ORDER TO MOVE THE REMAINING FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THE UTILITIES AND NOT BE THE REASON THAT TXDOT DOES NOT WIDEN HIGHWAY 205. SO I LAUGH AND SAY, WE'RE IN A RACE WITH HIGH POINT, BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL IF YOU'RE 
          [01:05:01]
IF YOU DRIVE TO A FIVE, THEY'RE MOVING WATER LINES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BEAT THEM. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE TALKED BRIEFLY A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE GRANT. 
          IT'S LIKE A 90% GUARANTEED GRANT IF YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR PAPERWORK IN ORDER. AND SO WHAT THIS IS, IS A STATE GRANT GIVING US FUNDS TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO WE'LL BE COMPLETING THAT GRANT. WE WANTED TO TIME IT SO THAT AS YOU ALL COME OUT OF BUDGET THIS YEAR, WE CAN MOVE INTO COMP PLANNING BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO TAKE SO MUCH TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE. SAFE STREETS FOR ALL. YOU HAD THE BIG BOOK IN YOUR PACKET LAST MONTH. WE WERE APPROVED FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THAT, THE ADA COMPLIANCE. THIS IS A PORTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO APPROVE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TEX-DOT FUNDING IN THE FUTURE. AND IT JUST IT'S GOING TO BE A STUDY ON ALL OF OUR SIDEWALKS AND ROADWAYS TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE FOR ADA COMPLIANCE. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, NOT ONLY TO HELP AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT TEX-DOT IS MAKING SURE THAT ALL CITIES ARE DOING THIS NOW, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. SO THOSE ARE THE BIG PROJECTS. 
          JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN DC IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE IF WE HAD SOME TALKING POINTS. AND AGAIN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF GOING FROM QUIET ZONES TO SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS AND CALLING THEM THAT, BUT WE ALL NEED TO UNIFY. BE SPEAKING OF THAT AT THE NLC AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'RE BUILDING THERE, THE BOARD POSITIONS THAT WE'VE GOT, AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE SPEED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. THE FUNDING FOR IT, I THINK, WOULD BE GOOD. ALSO, WHEN WE'RE IN AUSTIN AND AUSTIN, THE SAME THING, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING WITH A TEXT OUT OR SOMETHING OR ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES, WE NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT AND GO THERE, VISIT WITH THEM. AND AGAIN, IF WE'RE THEY'RE HEARING IT MULTIPLE TIMES FROM DIFFERENT ONES, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER WAY TO APPROACH THAT. 
          YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS NOT ON THE LIST, I DON'T THINK. BUT I REMEMBER A LONG TIME AGO, WELL, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT WE GOT MONEY TO REPAIR THE LEAD PIPES. THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT? YES, MA'AM. AND THE THING WAS, WE HAD TO ACCORD THE THE SPECIFICS THAT I THE REASON I REMEMBER IT IS TO GET THE GRANT. IT HAD TO BE CONTRACTED OUT. THEY DIDN'T WANT CITY STAFF TO DO IT. THAT'S A FREE PARAPHRASE. WHAT EVER HAPPENED. SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE BACKROOM CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND ALL THE ALSO THE STATE, THE DB WAS THE ONE THAT RELEASED THAT, WHICH IS THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, AND IT WAS BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED FEDERAL FUNDING, BECAUSE THERE ARE CITIES OUT THERE WHO STILL HAVE LEAD PIPES. THE PROBLEM IS THE MAJORITY OF THE LEAD PIPES THAT ARE STILL IN EXISTENCE ARE BETWEEN MUNICIPALITY LINES AND PEOPLE'S HOMES, HOMES, AND EVEN LIKE FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE FROM THE STREET TO THE HOUSE. 
          SO A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD AS A SMALLER MUNICIPALITY, WE WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE CITY OF FORT WORTH WOULD DO, BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES TO JUMP OUT. 
          AND WE HAD SO MANY LEGAL QUESTIONS, BECAUSE IF THE CITY IS RECEIVING FUNDING FOR A PERSON AT THEIR RESIDENCE, THEN WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE COST? WHAT HAPPENS IF ONCE WE CONNECT THAT LINE, SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THEIR HOUSE? WHO'S CARRYING THE INSURANCE POLICY BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S A CITY GRANT. AND HONESTLY, THE CITY DID NOT CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT GRANT BECAUSE THE CITY OF TERRELL LINES, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OUR PIPES WOULD HAVE EVEN QUALIFIED. WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH PERCENTAGE OF PERSONAL HOMES THAT WE FELT LIKE IT WAS WORTH COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LEGAL ANSWERS. TML DIDN'T HAVE THE LEGAL ANSWERS. CITY OF FORT WORTH DIDN'T EVEN DBH LIKE, THEY KIND OF LAUGHED AT US ON THE ZOOM CALL AND THEY WERE LIKE, NO, THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. WE'RE JUST TELLING 
          [01:10:02]
YOU THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE US THIS BUCKET OF MONEY, AND THIS IS HOW IT HAS TO WORK. 
          SO LONG STORY SHORT, NOT VERY MANY MUNICIPALITIES TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT PROGRAM, WHICH MEANT IT PROBABLY ROLLED INTO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE ALSO QUALIFY FOR. AND SO WE'LL WE WILL GO AFTER FUNDING THAT WE FEEL IS A BETTER FIT FOR THIS CITY. IT IT SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT GRANT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD QUALIFY. AND IT WAS NOT FOR CITY LINES. SO IT WAS ALL ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE. ONCE WE WENT IN AND REPLACE THE PERSONAL LINE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO THE EXACT NUMBER. WHEN YOU SAY A FEW PEOPLE LIKE IT WASN'T A ASTRONOMICAL NUMBER, BUT NO, 50 HOMES, 100 HOMES. I THINK IT WAS LESS THAN 100. YEAH. IT WAS AN AMAZING PROGRAM. BUT HONESTLY, WE COULD NOT WE COULD NOT GET THE ANSWERS. AND FORT WORTH HASN'T DONE. FORT WORTH ALSO DID NOT IMPLEMENT. AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE WAS WAITING TO SEE. EVEN DBH TOLD US TO WAIT AND SEE HOW FORT WORTH HANDLES IT, JUST FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT. AND NOW THE HAS THE GRANT EXPIRED? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS LIKE TWO YEARS AGO. SO IF THERE WERE FUNDS LEFT OVER THEY THEY'LL ROLL INTO OTHER PROGRAMS. YEAH. IT JUST WAS NOT ONE THAT WAS GOING TO HIGHLY IMPACT. WE FELT LIKE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS EMAILS. SO THEY DIDN'T EVEN COULD WE NOT HAVE HAD HAD COULD WE NOT HAVE HAD AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND THE CITY? WE COULD HAVE. YES, MA'AM, WE COULD HAVE. WE JUST FELT LIKE THAT THAT WAS A HUGE LIABILITY TO ASK AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER TO TAKE ON, BECAUSE IT ULTIMATELY MEANT EVERYTHING APPEARS TO BE WORKING FINE. TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU A NEW PIPE. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS AFTER THE FACT, AND WE'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. BUT WILL YOU SIGN ON FOR THIS ANYWAY? AND SO WE JUST WE FELT LIKE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY BENEFITED, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS WORTH THE LIABILITY FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS. I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD ASK THIS ON THE RECORD OR NOT, BUT IT'S JUST I WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER. LIKE, WHERE WERE THESE PROPERTIES? MOSTLY I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. WE WE HAVE A LIST OF THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULAR AREAS, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU A LIST. AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER. GRANTS OF OUR OWN. IT WAS JUST WHEN IT WAS ATTACHED TO FEDERAL FUNDING. IT IT WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE IT WAS GOING TO BE VERY PARTICULAR AS FAR AS WHEN THE CITY COULD STEP IN TO HELP WHERE THE THE BRAKE LINES WERE, WHERE. SO IS A IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR LIKE AT WHAT POINT DOES THE HOMEOWNER LANDOWNER GET NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS FOUND? IS THAT THE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY? IS THAT THE CITY'S. NO. THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT AT PURCHASE. IT'S AND AND THAT'S WHERE THIS IS THIS IS PERSONAL PROPERTY. SO THE CITY CAN'T TELL YOU TO CHANGE THOSE LINES LIKE WE BECAUSE IT'S ALL PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHERE MUNICIPALITIES WERE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE CROSSOVER. BECAUSE WHEN YOU PURCHASE THAT HOME, YOU WERE TOLD EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. AND EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T, THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE WE MAINTAIN THE MAIN LINES. AND SO THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AREA WHERE AS SOON AS YOU STEP OVER INTO PERSONAL PROPERTY. NOW, HOW MUCH OF THAT ARE YOU TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR? JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID NOT REALLY THINK THROUGH. ON THE PERSONAL SIDE, I THINK THAT THERE WERE PROBABLY CITIES THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY. NO ONE BRAGS ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF IT. YEAH. 
          ONE OTHER VARIABLE IN THIS, YOU REPLACED THE THE WATER LINE FROM THE MAIN LINE UP TO THE HOUSE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS INSIDE THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S WHERE THE LIABILITY ISSUE WAS, IS SAYING, WELL, YOU DIDN'T REPLACE ALL THE WAY TO THE FAUCET, YOU JUST REPLACED TO THE HOUSE. SO NOW THE CITY IS ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING INSIDE THE HOUSE IS GOOD. SO THAT WAS 
          [01:15:01]
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME ABOUT. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REPLACING IT 100%, YOU'RE JUST REPLACING PART OF IT. SO NOW YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE IT BECAME A GRAY AREA. DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT. GRANT AND I, I WOULD HOPE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WE'D HAVE AN OPTION TO SORT OF HAVE A WAIVER THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU AGREE TO DO THE WORK OR ALLOWS YOU THE WORK, THEN WE'RE NOT LIABLE FOR WHAT THE RESULTS ARE POTENTIALLY. 
          BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'D BE CHALLENGING AS WELL. BUT YEAH, JUST DISAPPOINTING. BUT MY QUESTION SORT OF SHIFTING TOWARD WHAT WAS PRESENTED REGARDING THE THE TRANQUILITY ENHANCEMENT REGIONS. IT'S JUST SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY UPGRADES, THAT'S ALL. IF EVERYTHING IF EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN AND YOU KNOW, WE DO GET THE GRANT, EVERYTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE EVERYTHING IS COMES UP ROSES. WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT IT TO BE COMPLETED? YOUR NEXT GRANT APPLICATION WILL PROBABLY GO IN IN MARCH. IF YOU ARE APPROVED IN JUNE OR JULY, JUST KEEP IN MIND YOUR DESIGN IS AT 100% AND HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY UNION PACIFIC. YOU IMMEDIATELY ARE ABLE TO GO TO BID. THEY'RE ANTICIPATING PROBABLY 18 MONTHS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU WOULD DO WE HAVE IT DESIGNED SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO A BLOCK AT A TIME, AND DEPENDING ON YOUR CONTRACTOR, WE MAY BE ABLE TO START ON THE OUTSIDES AND WORK OUR WAY IN. SO 18 MONTHS FROM FROM NOTICE OF FUNDING WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS, BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR DESIGN IS ALREADY APPROVED BY UNION PACIFIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK 
          [8. BUSINESS ITEMS]
YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU. RAYLAN. GREAT DISCUSSION. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.1 DISCUSSION. 
          CONSIDER ACTION TO AUTHORIZE, REPAIR AND COLLAPSE SEWER LINE AT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO AND APPROVE THE USE OF CO 2023 C ON BOND FUNDS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. 
          RAYLAN. SO THERE'S NOTHING FUN ABOUT THIS, BUT WE DID HAVE THE SEWER SEWER LINE COLLAPSE AT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. WE DO KNOW THAT TO DO IT CORRECTLY, THE QUOTE HAS COME BACK AT $37,125. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU FROM THE MAIN ALL THE WAY INTO THE BUILDING. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, JUST LIKE WITH THE LEAD PIPE, IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO TO THE INSIDE. SO WHAT I DID IS I TOOK US BACK TO THE CO ALLOCATION BECAUSE CLEARLY WE WERE NOT READY FOR THIS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. BUT YOU DO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. SO I TALKED WITH CORE CONSTRUCTION GARY FRAZIER WHO IS OVER OUR ALL OF OUR MAIN PROJECTS. AND YOU HAVE $240,000 DEDICATED FOR THE AIR SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO GO THERE WITHIN STATION TWO. AND JUST KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A REPLACEMENT SYSTEM. SO HIS RECOMMENDATION TO ME LAST WEEK, WHENEVER I TALKED TO HIM, HE IS ABLE TO PUT THAT SYSTEM ON HOLD. WE'RE NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO THE BUILDING. SO IF CITY COUNCIL FEELS LIKE WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT IS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR, THEN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. RECOMMENDATION FROM FACILITIES OMAR AND JAMIE IS MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EMERGENCY REPAIR OF THE SEWER LINE. I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE 37 125 RIGHT NOW, WHICH WOULD NOT IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN OVER TO FIRE STATION TWO. BUT I WANTED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE MAY BE OTHER REQUESTS COMING FORWARD, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE. BUT GARY IS COMPLETELY ON BOARD AND THINKS THAT IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE TO HOLD YOUR CURRENT CONTRACTS FOR FIRE STATION TWO UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT YOUR EMERGENCY REPAIRS. WELL, YOU SAID SEWER LINE. WE NEED TO JUST FIX THE SEWER LINE. HOWEVER, FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION. FIRE STATION TWO GOD REST HIS SOUL. THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT. LIKE MY COLLEAGUE WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF BRIDGE STREET. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. IF A STRONG WIND COMES. GOD REST US. 
          I AGREE. I TOURED THAT PLACE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PRIOR LEADERSHIP THAT THERE WAS SOME CONTINGENCY MONEY BECAUSE I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THE AIR QUALITY THING BECAUSE WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR FIREFIGHTERS. BUT WHEN I TOURED IT, I JUST THOUGHT WE 
          [01:20:01]
WOULD HAVE MORE FUNDING FOR IT. SOME FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES GOING ON. THERE IS SOME CRACKS. I MEAN, I WALK THROUGH THAT PLACE, THE SEWER PROBLEM, THE SEWER ISSUE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YEARS. YEAH, WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE. I JUST DON'T GET A NEW STATION. THAT'S HOW IT GOES. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I JUST THOUGHT, I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME MY VOTE IS JUST DO IT. WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS PLACE ALL OTHER CONTRACTS FOR FIRE STATION TWO ON HOLD, AND LET THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT START WITH THE SEWER LINE REPAIR, AND THEN WE COULD BRING BACK TO YOU UPDATES ABOUT THIS REPAIR. WE KNOW THE THE STATE OF THAT BUILDING. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO OVER PROMISE WHAT WE COULD YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THIS AND THAT. 
          BUT I WANTED TO LEAVE THE CONVERSATION OPEN. YOU DO HAVE FIRE STATION TWO FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. IT'S ALSO WITHIN THAT ORDINANCE. SO WE HAVE FUNDS THERE. AND THIS IS JUST PERMISSION TO UTILIZE THE FUNDING FOR THE SEWER LINE REPAIRS AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU FOR ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE. DO YOU THINK THAT INSECURITY OF THE FOUNDATION COULD CAUSE MORE DAMAGE TO THE SEWER LINE AFTER IT'S FIXED? IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO SECURE THE FOUNDATION WHILE WE. SO ONE THING THAT I DID ASK GARY, WHO IS WITH CORE CONSTRUCTION, IS THAT HE WILL ACTUALLY BE ON SITE WITH JAMIE AND ALSO THE CONTRACTOR FOR THIS. THIS WAS JUST A QUOTE. SO THAT WE CAN GET CORE CONSTRUCTION OPINION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HE'S WALKED THROUGH ALL THE STATIONS AND HE'S LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND SO AT ANY POINT HE COULD COME FORWARD AND YOU KNOW HIM WELL ENOUGH TO SAY, OH, NO, I WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO THIS INSTEAD. SO I'VE JUST I'VE ASKED HIM TO BE JUST KIND OF OVERSIGHT BEFORE WE JUMP OUT THERE. AND PART OF THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO PLACE A HOLD ON SPENDING OTHER MONEY IS WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN ONCE WE PULL THE LINE AND PUT SOMETHING BRAND NEW. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT GARY WAS ON BOARD, AND HE KIND OF UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE ASKING OF Y'ALL. AND HE THINKS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE EMERGENCY REPAIR IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, AND HE'S MORE THAN WELCOME TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO. SO NOT TO REHASH THE PAST, BUT MY YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I BROUGHT FORWARD WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING FIRE STATION THREE, IS THE IDEA THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO, INSTEAD OF BUILDING A LARGER FIRE STATION. 
          THREE INVEST IN REPAIRING AND REMODELING FIRE STATION TWO MORE EXTENSIVELY, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT STATION WAS BUILT BY THE HASKELL BUILDING TRADES CLASS. 
          THAT'S A THAT'S A STATION THAT 100% NEEDS TO BE FULLY REMODELED. AND I IMAGINE WHEN CORE CONSTRUCTION WALKS IN, THEY'RE GOING TO GO, WHAT IS ANY OF THIS? YOU KNOW? SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO TO FUND THIS REPAIR OBVIOUSLY GREAT. BUT IF WE NEED TO DO MORE, THEN I'M VERY OPEN TO IT. WHERE? LET ME ASK, WHERE ARE THE FIREMEN CURRENTLY USING THE RESTROOM. THERE'S TWO. OKAY. SO ONE BATHROOM IS WORKING OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO DIG A HOLE. 
          I'M GUARANTEEING YOU WE'RE VERY RESOURCEFUL. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU GUYS HAVE. 
          WHEN YOU SAY SEWER PROBLEMS, AS WITH ANYTHING PLUMBING. I USED TO LAY TOILETS. I'M TELLING YOU. 
          HOLDS GOING TO GO DOWN. AND I'M JUST. REMEMBER DONNA RENEE SAID. I TOLD YOU SO. WELL, THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS THAT WE BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EMERGENCY SEWER LINE REPAIR. WE KNOW THAT THAT PORTION WILL NOT EXCEED THE 37 125. BEYOND THAT, WE'LL COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHAT HAPPENED, GIVE YOU A BLANK CHECK. WHAT DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING FIRE STATION TO AT SOME POINT. YEAH. AND SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK THE COUNCIL SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE SPENT ENOUGH TRYING TO REHAB IT AND WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT. I THINK THAT WHEN YOU ALL WERE DISCUSSING THIS, WE KNOW THAT CORE BROUGHT TO Y'ALL AN OPTION OF YOU COULD EVEN KEEP THE BAY AND JUST BUILD NEW LIVING QUARTERS ON THE OTHER SIDE. AT WHICH POINT, IF YOU DID THIS, GREAT. NOW YOU HAVE A NEW SEWER LINE THAT YOU CAN NOW MOVE THAT DIRECTION. WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DUST OFF AND AND BRING BACK. I THINK AFTER WE START THIS REPAIR, YOU'LL KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE STATE IS. I DON'T THINK THAT STAFF, JAMIE AMARO OR EVEN CORE WOULD COME BACK AND RECOMMEND CHANGES TO THE BUILDING THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL WERE PRUDENT, CONSIDERING THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING. SO BUT WE DO THINK THAT 
          [01:25:09]
REGARDLESS OF THE LOCATION THAT THE SEWER LINE IS AFFAIR REPAIR. AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT I REMEMBER. I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK WE WERE GOING TO RELOCATE. NEEDED TO RELOCATE SECTION, I MEAN FIRE STATION TWO. I THINK NOT ONLY WEREN'T YOU GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE STUDY FOR TO THAT WAS DISCUSSION OF RELOCATING STATION ONE AND STATION TWO. YEAH. AGAIN MOVING THEM FURTHER APART. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IF WE DON'T SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL. WE NEED TO GET THE THE PLUMBING AND SEWER TAKEN CARE OF. BUT AT SOME POINT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE NEED TO BE DUSTED OFF AND REHASHED AND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FUTURE WISE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION CONSIDER AND WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE REPAIR OF A COLLAPSED SEWER LINE FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, WHAT, 37,001 2530 7001 25 OKAY. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE APPROVAL OF THE REPAIR OF THE COLLAPSED SEWER LINE AT FIRE STATION TWO AND APPROVE THE USE OF CO 2023 C BOND FUNDS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO FIRE. NUMBER TWO, TO COVER THE EXPENSE FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $37,125. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM PHIL ROBERTSON, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT FIVE. A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, DISTRICT FOUR, TO APPROVE THE AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION OF THE REPAIR OF THE COLLAPSED SEWER LINE AT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 37,125. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.2. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FUNDING REQUEST FROM NONPROFIT PARTNERS FOR NON CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. RAYLAN I PROMISE I AM ALMOST DONE. SO BACK IN OCTOBER, WE BROUGHT TO YOU OUR 2026 CALENDAR OF EVENTS. 
          AND WE TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NONPROFITS AND THEIR REQUEST OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO WE REACHED OUT TO THE NONPROFITS. WE SPOKE TO SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WE ARE INVOLVED WITH WITH OUR WITH OUR EVENTS. WE DID RECEIVE A FORMAL REQUEST FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF BREEZY HILL, AS WELL AS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED. BUT JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I WENT AHEAD AND GAVE YOU THE STAFFING ESTIMATE. SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE STANDING EVENTS WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS WELL AS THE CITY EVENTS. AND SO THE QUESTION COMES UP A LOT AS FAR AS OVERTIME COSTS. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO CALCULATE THOSE. SO THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING REQUEST BY THE TWO NONPROFITS. SO THE ASSOCIATION OF BREEZY HILL THIS IS TO EXPAND PROGRAMING, IMPROVE PARK UTILIZATION, BETTER SERVE RESIDENTS. AND THEY DID INCLUDE A DETAILED BUDGET. SO WE WOULD ASSUME THE ESTIMATED STAFFING ESTIMATE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME BECAUSE THAT IS THE PARKS AND STREETS DEPARTMENT HELPING WITH THOSE SAME ITEMS. ALTHOUGH THE 15,000 WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL THE RENTALS AND ALL OF THE ACCESSORIES AND THINGS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PUT ON THE EVENT, I'M SORRY. DAWN KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED, THEY PUT ON SPRING AND FALL ARTS AND CRAFTS MARKET, SO THEY ARE WANTING TO DO TWO SEASONAL COMMUNITY ARTS AND CRAFT MARKETS WHICH PROVIDE FREE, FAMILY CENTERED CREATIVE EXPERIENCES. THIS IS ARTS AND ARTS AND CRAFTS SUPPLIES, EVENT EQUIPMENT SETUP, MARKETING. SO THIS IS A $5,000 REQUEST FOR TWO EVENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY HISTORICAL STAFFING ESTIMATES, BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU, THE CURRENT MARKET THAT THEY HAVE, WE PROVIDE THE BARRICADES, BUT AT THIS POINT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND ANY SECURITY. SHE HAS ALSO TAKEN CARE OF HERSELF, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OVERTIME EXPENSES ON EVENTS THAT ARE PUT ON BY KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED. SO AGAIN, LIKE YOU ASK, WE WENT AND MET WITH THE NONPROFITS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH. THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT CAME FORWARD. KNOWING THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THESE REQUESTS, I THINK THAT NEXT YEAR PEOPLE MAY BE MORE FORTHCOMING IN REQUESTING FUNDS. AND SO JUST PART OF MY NOTES FOR THIS ITEM IS THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING FUTURE MEETINGS WITH NONPROFIT GROUPS OCCUR DURING THE MONTHS OF APRIL FOR 2027 CONSIDERATION. SO THE EMAILS AND NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE DID, ASKING THEM TO GET 
          [01:30:05]
IT TURNED AROUND AND 30 OR 45 DAYS, WE WOULD START REACHING OUT TO THEM AND ASKING FOR THOSE REQUESTS IN APRIL SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE DURING YOUR BUDGET REVIEW. SO. THE CITY EVENTS ARE PUT ON BY THE CITY, OR PUT ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAMBER. YEAH, WE CAN DISTINGUISH THAT WITH COMMUNITY CAN'T. RIGHT. SO ANY EVENT THAT IS HELD IN THE CITY OF TERRELL IN THEIR EYES AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE YOU GO, IS GOING TO BE US. IT'S ALL THE CITY. SO WHAT I WOULD CAUTION IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH OR SUPPORTING. THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, WE EXPECT THEM TO TO BE AT A HIGH LEVEL AND OPERATE AT A HIGH LEVEL. I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET ANY BLOWBACK. THE MAYOR, I'M IN MY LAST TERM, SO I'M GOOD, BUT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M CONCERNED WOULD GET BAD REVIEWS OR. BAD PUBLICITY ABOUT HOW THE CITY IS BEING RUN AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. ARE THERE ANY IS THERE ANYONE THAT WE NEED TO BE CAUTIONED ABOUT IN YOUR IN YOUR OPINION, JUST WITH HISTORICAL DATA? NO. BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WE HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST AND THESE ARE THESE ARE ACTUALLY CURRENT EVENTS. WE JUST FINALLY PUT SOME BUDGETS TOGETHER FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT 20,000. THE REQUEST IS 20,000. IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL ASK YOU THINK, OR ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT THAT. THAT IS JUST FOR THIS SUMMER. SO THIS JUST GETS YOU THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 26. AND SO WHAT WE WILL ASK IS THOSE NONPROFITS, ANY OF YOU THAT MISSED OUT OR DIDN'T KNOW HOW, DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WAS GOING TO WORK? IF YOU'LL GET YOUR REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL BY APRIL OF 2026, THEN Y'ALL WILL HAVE TIME DURING YOUR BUDGET TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR 27. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO BE ABOUT 18 MONTHS AHEAD OF THEIR EVENTS. DO WE HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE? IN OTHER WORDS, DO WE HAVE BUDGETED 50,000 AND WE'RE USING 20,000 FOR THIS YEAR. IS THERE 45,000 IN A BUDGETED ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PULLING THIS OR WHERE'S THIS MONEY COMING FROM. THESE ARE NOT CURRENTLY BUDGET. THESE ARE GOING TO BE AMENDMENTS TO THE WE WRITE. YES SIR. WE PLAN ON BRINGING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO YOU PROBABLY MARCH, MARCH APRIL TIME FRAME. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND. SO MOVING FORWARD, DO YOU THINK WE NEED A LINE ITEM FROM US AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S OUR CUTOFF. AND ONCE WE REACH THAT ON PROVIDING THESE GRANTS FOR NONPROFITS, IT MAY HELP STAFF. IF YOU EVEN WANTED TO SAY MAXIMUM AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON DAYS OR WHAT, JUST SOME GUIDELINES WOULD BE GOOD. THIS WAS JUST OUR FIRST SHOT OF LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED. AND I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT AND WORK WITH YOU WITH THE COUNCIL TO KNOW IS IT GOING TO BE ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS, OR IS THIS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY AND DETERMINE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS GOING TO BRING MORE TO THE CITY THAN YOURS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, NO. AND WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION? WOULD THAT BE THE COUNCIL COMBINATION ABOUT RAYLAN? I LOVE TO BRING THINGS TO Y'ALL LIKE, I, I LOVE TO ASK Y'ALL. OKAY, SO IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT? YES, I THINK OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T. 
          THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DON'T LOOK AT US LIKE WE ARE THE TREE WITH OUR LEAVES OR MONEY. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN I GIVE YOU THIS MONEY, YOU ARE GOING TO BEHAVE ACCORDINGLY, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE IT WISELY, AND YOU ARE GOING TO PUT UP 75% MORE THAN WHAT WE GIVE YOU, RIGHT? WE ARE NOT FUNDING SOMETHING. AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THIS IS YOUR FUNCTION. THIS IS THEIR FUNCTION. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BEHAVE APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE IT WILL BLOW BACK ON US. YEAH. I THINK ANOTHER GOOD THING FOR US TO ASK A REQUEST IS DATA FROM THE EVENT, HOW MANY WE CAN GET. YOU ATTENDED, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S WAY TO KNOW IF THERE WERE FROM TERRELL OR OUTSIDE, WHAT'S THE DATA THAT THE CHAMBER USES WHERE THEY USE THE PLACER. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHEN WE BRING THESE REQUESTS TO 
          [01:35:02]
YOU FOR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING, WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY ON THEM. AND WE CAN HAVE. PERFECT. YEAH. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING INCREDIBLY CONTROVERSIAL, BUT. SO PREPARE YOURSELF. I WOULD LIKE TO IF WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PART IN FUNDING IT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE THE FIREWORKS RETURN TO BENGAL PARK. NOBODY. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. NOBODY THROW ANYTHING AT ME. BUT. SO I GET SO MUCH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW, BUT LET ME LET ME JUST SAY THAT WE WEREN'T TRYING TO BE MEAN TO DISTRICT FIVE BY MOVING FIVE IS PERIOD. YEAH. DISTRICT FOUR. DISTRICT FIVE BY MOVING THREE. THREE BY MOVING THE FIREWORKS. IT WAS A LOGISTICS ISSUE AND THE SAFETY ISSUE. I THINK EVEN THE FIRE CHIEF PUT IN, PUT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION AND OF THE APARTMENTS. AND I THINK THAT WAS SOME OF THE DRIVING FACTORS OF MOVING IT, JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. BUT I WELL TAKEN POINT TAKEN AND I GUESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. I'M STAYING. 
          THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY POINT. I WANT TO HAVE A BALANCE OF OF ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS. RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I SEE CITY EVENTS. BUT THEN I ALSO SEE CHAMBER AND ASSOCIATION, BREEZY HILL AND KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALL WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, FAIR AND AND NOT PUNITIVE AND SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATIONS. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH HAVING DATA. HOW MUCH HOW MUCH DOES THE EVENT COST OVERALL? WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE YOU ASKING FOR? YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU'VE PROVIDED WHERE THEY HAVE PROVIDED WHAT EXACTLY WOULD BE SPENT. SO CONTINUING TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO ALSO KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF IF. THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES CONTINUES TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, HEY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, POLICE STAFFING NEXT TIME AND INSERT IT INTO THE APPLICATION. BUT I AGREE OVERALL DATA TO FIGURE OUT FOR TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE WE'RE FUNDING AND IF IT MAKES SENSE TO I DON'T KNOW IS IT IS IT TWO DAYS. 
          IS IT THREE DAYS THAT I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE TOO PUNITIVE HERE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE NONPROFITS, THE THE NONPROFIT, THE TWO NONPROFITS AT THE TOP THAT ARE LISTED HERE. I, I KNOW THAT THEY SPEND MONEY OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET AND, AND HAVE DONATIONS THAT ARE GIVEN AND VOLUNTEER WORK. AND I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE COMPARED TO THE TIME AND THOUGHT THAT THEY PUT INTO PUTTING ON EVENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO HAVE, VERSUS IT BEING LIKE CITY LED. THESE ARE COMMUNITY LED. SO WHAT I COULD DO, SINCE WE ARE ASKING THEM TO PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IS HOW ABOUT SOMETIME THE MONTH OF MARCH OR THE 1ST OF APRIL? IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NONPROFITS TO HAVE AN ACTUAL APPLICATION. SO I'LL BRING THAT BACK TO Y'ALL SO THAT IT KIND OF OUTLINES SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD. AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING APPLICATIONS WILL KIND OF GROW WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR AND GET THEM VERY PREPARED TO BE REAL SPECIFIC ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR, WE GET LOTS OF REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE ASKED THEM TO PUT TOGETHER A REQUEST. YEAH. GOOD. THANK YOU BRIAN. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS WAS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER. SO THIS IS A AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $20,000.20 5000. OH I'M SORRY 25 I THINK IT'S 20 I'M SORRY IT'S 15 AND FIVE. YEAH 20,000. SO WE HAVE TO TO MAKE A MOTION. YEAH. THIS IS FOR. FUNDING REQUEST FOR NONPROFIT PARTNERS. AND DO WE NEED TO REQUEST THE AMOUNT FOR EACH ONE. OR WE CAN JUST DO A NOT TO EXCEED 20,000 FOR ALL OF THEM. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU ALL WOULD SAY EXACTLY OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. 
          AGENCY WAS GETTING I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS FOR NON CITY SPONSORED EVENTS OF $15,000 FOR BREEZY HILL. ASSOCIATION. WE'RE DOING IT BY ITEM. RIGHT. SO WE'RE DOING ONE AT A TIME. YES. SO YOU'RE DOING GREAT. YOU WANT 15,000 FOR ASSOCIATION OF 
          [01:40:03]
BREEZY HILL AND 5000 FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED. IS THAT CORRECT. THAT'S THE TWO. 
          YES. AND ONLY THOSE TWO. YES. SO WE'RE DOING I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE. BUDGET FUNDING REQUEST FUNDING REQUEST FOR BREEZY HILL ASSOCIATION OF $15,000 AND KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED FOR $5,000. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DONNA RENEE ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DISTRICT TWO. A SECOND FROM MAY. RONNIE VELASQUEZ, DISTRICT THREE, TO APPROVE THE FUNDING REQUEST FOR OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS FOR NON CITY SPONSORED EVENTS WITH ASSOCIATION OF BREEZY HILL AND THE AMOUNT OF 15,000. AND THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY UNITED IN THE AMOUNT OF 5000. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. FIREWORKS HAVE BEEN KILLED. WHAT? FIREWORKS AT BINGO. OH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.3, WHICH IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER RELOCATION OF A TEN INCH WATER MAIN ALONG EAST MORE FOR TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE ROAD. CHRIS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY EXCITING SUBJECT HERE. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO RIP THE BAND AID OFF REAL QUICK AND GO ON WITH IT AND TRY TO GO FROM THERE. WHAT I WANT TO DO FIRST IS I WANT TO GET YOU ORIENTED OF WHERE THIS WATER LINE IS. BASICALLY, IT'S IN FRONT OF THE NEW AND THIS IS A RESULT OF FINDING, PUTTING IN THE NEW STATE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE ROAD OFF HIGHWAY 80. SO THE COMMON AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND THERE'S A NEW LATIN MARTIN MARKET GROCERY STORE THAT'S GOING IN IN THAT AREA. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A RIGHT LANE TURNING DECEL LANE AS YOU TURN RIGHT TO GO INTO THE STATE HOSPITAL. SO ANYTHING THAT WE DIG AROUND HERE, WE FIND NEW THINGS. SO WE HAVE A TEN INCH WATER MAIN LINE THAT IS RUNNING RIGHT ALONG THIS PROPERTY. IT'S IN THE BLUE LINE YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. THE MAIN AREA AS YOU CAN SEE IS THE THERE'S TURNING LANE. AND WHEN WE WERE DIGGING THE STATE TEX-DOT IS PUTTING IN THIS ROAD. AND WHEN THEY DUG DOWN TO PUT THE SUBBASE IN, THEY DUG DOWN TO OUR TEN INCH WATER LINE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE GET THE, THE, THE REWARDING PART OF THE JOB. WE GET TO FIND THINGS. AND THIS JOB, THE WATER LINE WAS VERY SHALLOW. SO WHAT THIS PROPOSAL HERE TODAY IS, IS TO DROP THAT WATER LINE DOWN ABOUT THREE FEET. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF WE GO IN AND PUT SOME BASED ON TOP OF THIS TO BUILD THAT ROAD. SO THESE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CRACK IT MORE ON TOP OF THAT FROM THE THE PLANT SERVICES SIDE OF IT. 
          WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS LEAKS ON THIS WATER LINE FOR MANY TIMES. SO IT'S VERY FRAGILE. IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. SO WE'RE GOING IN WITH A PHILOSOPHY RIGHT HERE FOR THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO 45 IT DOWN ABOUT THREE FEET. 
          AND IT'LL BE ABOUT FIVE FEET DEEP. AND THEN GO FROM THERE. SO THAT'S THE LOCATION. THAT'S THE SCOPE OF THE JOB. SO WE WENT OUT AND GOT BIDS TO KIND OF HELP SEE WHAT THE TOTAL MAGNITUDE IS. YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE IS THE PARTS AND THE OTHER IS THE LABOR. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR HIGH STAKES CONSTRUCTION TO DO THE INSTALLATION AND SEE FERGUSON. 
          AND THEY'RE THE HIGHEST BID. BUT YOU SEE THE OPPORTUNITY. WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS THEY CAN GET THE MATERIAL WITHIN ONE WEEK. THE OTHER FOLKS THAT WE FIND ARE HAVING ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO 12 TO 15 WEEK DELIVERY TIME. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE HIGH STAKES IN FERGUSON, PROVIDE AND INSTALL THE LINE FOR A TOTAL OF $53,746.50. OKAY, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAIN, LONG RUN WILL BE BETTER OFF HAVING THAT LINE. YEAH. DOWN LOWER. SO WHAT ABOUT THE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT IS COMING OUT OF UTILITY FUNDS OKAY. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, CHRIS. I FIND THIS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A WATER LINE THAT'S RUNNING A LONG TEXDOT. RIGHT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT IT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THE STATE HOSPITAL INSURANCE ROAD. BUT THEN WE'RE PAYING FOR THE UTILITY LINE. 
          IT'S LIKE WE CAN'T GET ANY HELP WITH THIS FROM THE STATE, FROM THE STATE HOSPITAL OR ANYBODY. 
          [01:45:06]
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE US FUNDING IT. THE STATE HOSPITAL NEEDS WATER. WHY ISN'T THE STATE HELPING TO. YEAH, THIS THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE STATE HOSPITAL. THIS IS SUPPLYING THIS IS A MAIN LINE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN NORTH STREET. IT LATERALS OFF ON ON RIGHT OF WAY. BUT WE'RE BUT WE'RE ONLY TAPPING INTO THAT LINE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW STATE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE ROAD. IF WE HAVE A LINE THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A ROAD ON, WHICH IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. HAPPENED OUT HERE. 205 SAME SORT OF THING ANYTIME. IF IT WAS IN IF IT WAS AN EASEMENT, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF MOVING IT. BUT IF IT'S IN RIGHT OF WAY, AS THIS IS OPPOSED TO MOVING, IT WOULD BE OURS. AND WE'RE GOING. WELL, LET'S SAY LET'S SAY WE JUST DIDN'T BUILD THE ROAD AND WE JUST LEFT THE WATER MAIN WHERE IT IS AND DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES. YOU'D HAVE HIGH STREET, THEY'D BE COMING IN OUT OF HIGH STREET. NO, BUT THE PIPE ITSELF, LIKE THEY DO NOW I KNOW. RIGHT. 
          AGREED. YOU KNOW AND WE AND WE WOULDN'T BE OUT $53,000. NO. BUT THE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT CHRIS SAID WAS WE HAVE FREQUENT LEAKS ON THIS LINE. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY 1837, BUT FIRST OF ALL, IT'S TOO SHALLOW. SO, YOU KNOW, SLAP THE HEAD. WHO PUT IT IN FIRST. 
          BUT NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT. AND RIGHT AWAY EASEMENT. LET'S JUST THE CITY OF TERRELL NEEDS THIS TEN INCH. YEAH $53,000.50 $4,000 REPAIR. AND LET'S DO IT RIGHT. YEAH. 
          WELL I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO BRIDGE STREET. RIGHT. LET'S DO THIS ONE RIGHT. AS THE THE COMMUNITY GROWS, AS THE CITY GROWS, WE'RE GOING TO FIND THIS TO BE MORE AND MORE COMMON. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S AN EASTER EGG HUNT EVERY TIME WE DIG SOMETHING UP. SO IT'S NOT. SO YOU GO WELL WHERE'S THE AS BUILT DRAWINGS? WELL, SOME OF THESE LINES ARE SO OLD, COUNCILMAN. WE DON'T HAVE AS BUILTS ON THEM. SO GENERALLY WE GO OUT IN POTHOLE. IT'S JUST A HIGH TECH TERM THAT YOU JUST DIG A HOLE AND YOU FIND IT, AND THEN YOU KIND OF SEE HOW DEEP IT IS. WE DO THAT A LOT ON OUR SIDE STREETS, ESPECIALLY FOR INFILL. LOTS TO KIND OF GET ORIENTED. BUT YES, THIS IS A SHALLOW LINE. YEAH. LINEAR. WELL HOW LONG IS THE LINEAR FEET. WE'RE GOING TO COVER 500FT. YES. AND DOES IT START FURTHER EAST LIKE TOWARD THE STORAGE PLACE IT. WHERE DOES IT START ON THAT END VERSUS GOING. WE'RE GOING PAST THE NEW MARKET OR JUST TO THE ROAD. I MEAN I'M TRYING TO GET MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT 500FT IS. BUT I JUST SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS. SO YOU'LL COME BACK ONE ENTRANCE PAST THAT LATIN MARKET GROCERY STORE BE THE NEXT ONE. THE DECEL LANE STARTS TO TURN RIGHT IN THERE. 
          SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ULTIMATE FIX. WE GOT A LOT OF LINES LIKE THIS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. SO YOU JUST KIND OF PICK YOUR POISON AT THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. 
          IT'S NOT A PLEASURABLE ITEM TO PRESENT BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING FUN ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT'S REALITY. AND WE CAN ALSO ADD TO THIS. THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN LIT, SO THE CONSTRUCTION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY FOR A DECEL LANE. IF YOU DID TAKE THE OPTION OF NOT LOWERING THIS AND LEAVING IT AS IS, ONCE THEY PAVE OVER IT, IT'S GOING TO BE SHALLOW. WE GET A MAIN BREAK, WE GOT TO GO UP THERE AND CUT CONCRETE, REPAIR IT. SO THEN YOU HAVE A COST OF CONCRETE ADDITIONAL. SO THIS WAY IS BEING PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IF YOU WILL LONG TERM TO DROP THIS THREE FEET AND NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM FOR OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES. SO THAT'S THE OTHER POINT. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT. I JUST I FEEL LIKE THERE THERE SHOULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME PARTNERING. WE CAN WHEN WE'RE BENEFITING SOME OF THESE OTHER ENTITIES. WE COMPLETELY AGREE. BUT THE STATE'S POSITION IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO. I THINK THE COUNCILMAN WANTS TO KNOW. THE MAYOR JUST DID WE AT LEAST ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD PICK UP SOME OF THIS? THEY CRIED WHEN WE TALKED. THEY MIGHT HAVE, BUT WE HAVE ASKED THEM ON COUNTLESS OTHER OCCASIONS WHEN WE'RE DOING A LINE STOP, BUT THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE. AND THEIR ANSWER WAS AN ASTOUNDING NO. BUT THE FACT ON THE LINE STOP. IF YOU RECALL, IF WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE IN A CERTAIN TIME, THEY WERE GOING TO CHARGE US $1,600 A DAY. YEAH, YEAH, LET'S GET IT DONE. REALLY? SO FRIENDLY. YEAH. ENVIRONMENT. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO BUILD THEM A WHOLE NEW ENTRANCE ROAD, BUT THERE'S. THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO PARK. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I KNOW I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THIS ASPECT OF IT. 
          YOU HAVE TO YOU GOTTA LOOK SHALLOW. AND SO IF YOU JUST PAVE OVER IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A TRUCK OVER IT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LEAK, IT'S GOING TO BLOW OUT. WE'VE GOT TO REPAIR IT. SO THE THE PREVENTATIVE ASPECT OF IT IS, IS WE GOT TO DROP IT. AND SO IN 
          [01:50:04]
ESSENCE, YOU'RE GETTING A DOUBLE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. YOU'RE REPLACING A LINE THAT'S BEEN HAVING NUMEROUS BLOWOUTS. AND THEN TWO WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY AND NOT TRYING TO PUT A BAND AID ON A SITUATION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE CONTINUAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE I'M THINKING LIKE, IF WE LOWERED THE SECTION WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING, WOULD THAT SAVE US ANY? I'M THINKING THAT WAY NOW, JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE GOT THIS LINE LOW AND THEN WE'RE GOING 45 DOWN LOW. IS IT GOING TO COME BACK UP TO GO BACK TO THE EXISTING LINE. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE THAT LINE RIGHT. YES. SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BOOM AND THEN BACK AND EVERYTHING. ALL YOUR WATER IS UNDER PRESSURE. SO IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO. AND YOU WON'T SEE ANY CAUSE A PROBLEM. NOW IF IT WAS SEWER THE WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT'S GRAVITY FED IN MOST CASES BUT. RIGHT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE QUESTION. MAKING THIS 500FT NEW AND DOING THAT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS UPSTREAM OR DOWNSTREAM. YOU THINK IT'LL STILL KIND OF HOLD? I MEAN, I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING WHEN IT COMES TO. THAT'S THE PLAN. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE DO THESE REPAIRS, WE HAVE TO BE VERY GENTLE OF HOW WE SHUT IT DOWN AND HOW WE RESTART IT. I MEAN, BECAUSE IF WE JUST TURN IT ON FULL BLAST, WHEN WE PUT IT IN THAT SURGE OF PRESSURE, IT CAUSES A SURGE PRESSURE ON DOWNSTREAM. IT'S A TECHNIQUE. SO YES, THERE IS A MOTION TO THE MADNESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION. CONSIDER THE RELOCATION OF A TEN INCH WATER MAIN ALONG EAST MOORE AND TERRELL STATE FOR THE TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE ROAD, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $53,746.50. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MAY. RONNY VELASQUEZ, DISTRICT THREE A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS, DISTRICT FOUR, TO APPROVE THE RELOCATION OF A TEN INCH WATER MAIN ALONG EAST MOORE FOR TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL ROAD IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $53,746.50. DO WE NEED TO NAME THE COMPANIES AN AMOUNT OR JUST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY STATING I AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.4. YES. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ALWAYS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2286, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, CALLING A GENERAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF TERRELL, TEXAS, TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE KAUFMAN COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR ON SATURDAY, MAY 2ND, 2026, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVES FOR A THREE YEAR TERM, DESIGNATING THE POLLING PLACES AND FILING DEADLINES, ORDERING NOTICES OF ELECTION TO BE POSTED AND PUBLISHED AS PRESCRIBED BY LAW IN CONNECTION WITH SUCH ELECTION, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2286. IS THERE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2286. IS THERE A SECOND A SECOND. HAVE A MOTION FOR MAY RODNEY VELASQUEZ. DISTRICT THREE A SECOND FROM STEPHANIE HOLMES THOMAS. DISTRICT FOUR TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2286 AS PRESENTED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. 
          [9. INFORMATION REPORTS]
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES WITH UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RECEIVED. KAUFMAN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT REPORT RECEIVED. HOUSING DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT. COUNCIL. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE REACH OUT TO MARK IF YOU HAVE 
          [10. ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING]
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING. SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL MATTERS. SECTION 51.087 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIO
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.