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          WAIT ON MISS HOLMES? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OFFICIALLY CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING IN THE PARK 
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IN DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. AND I'LL ASK US ALL TO STAND FOR AN INVOCATION. 
          GOD, WE PAUSE IN THIS MOMENT TO BRING YOU OUR THANKS AND OUR PRAISE. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY OF TERRELL, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CALL THIS HOME, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE TO WORK AND SERVE. EACH DAY. WE PRAY FOR BLESSINGS ON THOSE THAT ARE HERE, THOSE THAT ARE PASSING THROUGH AND THOSE THAT ARE YET TO COME. LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THEM WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT. WE DO ASK ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS. AMEN. SO JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THIS TIME, I'LL ASK OUR 
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BOARD TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 14TH MEETING. AND ONCE YOU'VE HAD A MOMENT TO DO SO, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. MARY, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. SARAH AND JAKE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. ON THE DOCKET FOR NEW BUSINESS. TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN BY 
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DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING THE DECEMBER 2025 FINANCIAL REPORT. FOR THAT, I'LL CALL ON RAELYN. 
          SO AGAIN, I PROMISE MY LIFE IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK TO NORMAL. NOTICE WE WERE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING YOUR PACKETS TOGETHER THIS MORNING. THEY WERE PREPARED THE DAY BEFORE, SO HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MONTH THEY WILL ACTUALLY START GOING OUT AGAIN ON TIME. SO WITHIN YOUR FINANCIAL REPORT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I COULD GIVE YOU A FEW NOTES. YOUR FACADE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. JUST LIKE IN PREVIOUS MONTHS, I'M STILL SHOWING THE OUTSTANDING EXPENSES BASED ON THE TENANTS AND AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW UPDATES, MORROW IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE MET WITH HIM THIS WEEK. THAKKAR IS PROVIDING AN EXTERIOR DEMO AND A RENOVATION PLAN FOR THE FRONT FACADE. SO WE HAVE CONTRACTORS WHO WILL BE VISITING WITH MR. MORROW NEXT WEEK, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING. AND THEN I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE ON YOUR YOUR MORE IN SOUTH ALLEY AND THE THE FULL REIMBURSEMENTS DURING DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIPS BMT CENTER. THEY DID COMPLETE THEIR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT. SO WE HAVE PAID FOR THE AIR MONITORING, AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE INVOICE FOR THE ACTUAL ABATEMENT. DOWNTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE STILL SHOWING NO EXPENSES. THE PRICING FOR THE SOUTH VALLEY RAILROAD SCREENING, WHICH WOULD BE THE FENCING AND ALSO THE DUMPSTER SCREENING, THAT CROSSING WILL COME TO YOU IN FEBRUARY. SO WE'LL HAVE OUR QUOTES AND WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR UP TO RELEASE CONSTRUCTION, THAT IT IS WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE. THEY JUST WILL GET THE APPROVAL WHEN WE GET IT. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T RUSH YOU UP. 
          PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES TO THIS, BUT YOU WILL SEE ON YOUR EXPENSES. WE HAVE PAID THE BIGGEST PORTION OF YOUR SOCCER FIELD IRRIGATION. 
          WE'RE ABOUT 90% COMPLETE WITH THE INSTALL, AND WE'LL DO A FULL UPDATE HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT. BUT THEN WE'RE STILL SHOWING ALL OF THE OTHER OUTSTANDING EXPENSES AND WHAT YOUR BALANCE WOULD BE. 
          AND LASTLY IS ENGINEERING WE WHICH THESE ARE JUST THE EXPENSES TO DATE. AND OF COURSE YOU'LL GET AN UPDATE LATER. QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAN. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS. I, I AM GOING TO CHANGE THAT TO A DISCUSS AND CONSIDER JUST SO WE CAN START ACKNOWLEDGING THAT Y'ALL REVIEWED THE FINANCIALS AND THAT YOU AGREED TO THE EXPENSES. SO I IF I COULD GET A VOTE FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'VE HAD A MOMENT TO REVIEW THE DECEMBER 2025 FINANCIAL REPORT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. AND SECOND, FROM SARAH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. AT THIS 
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TIME, WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PARK CAPITAL PROJECT UPDATES. SO I'LL START THIS PRESENTATION. JUST GOING PARK BY PARK. I WILL SAY THE NEW MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT PARKS AND REC OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT. WE HAD THE DREAM TEAM. YES. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE PARK BOARD LAST NIGHT, AND I JUST EXPRESSED TO THEM HOW EXCITED I WAS TO BE THE ONE WORKING WITH THEM AND JUST HOW I THINK THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS IS GOING TO WORK OUT REALLY WELL. SO THEY WERE EXCITED. WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE THEM ON ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THEM TO A QUARTERLY MEETING PROCESS, AND SO WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON POLICY AND OPERATIONS ON ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS. AND SO IN APRIL, THEIR FOCUS WILL BE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR Y'ALL. SO WE'RE PRETTY ORGANIZED IN OUR TIMING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WHENEVER YOUR MEETINGS ARE SET, JUST TO START DISCUSSING BUDGETS. SO WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK REALLY WELL. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH. SO FOR ARLIE, WHAT YOU HAD APPROVED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE SOLAR LIGHTING, TABLES, TRASH RECEPTACLES, BENCHES, ETC. SO THOSE ARE ON ORDER FOR A SPRING INSTALL. BINGOL PARK. AGAIN, WE ARE 90% COMPLETE. I WITH THE IRRIGATION PROJECT. I NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR ONE AND EXPLAIN HOW THIS PROCESS WILL HAPPEN. FROM POINT FORWARD, YOU ARE BROUGHT A BUDGET REQUEST WHICH WAS FOR THE FULL $285,000, WHICH WAS FOR THE IRRIGATION OF THE PHASE ONE OF THE SOCCER FIELDS AT BINGO PARK. WHAT WAS NOT PART OF THAT QUOTE WAS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SOD. AND SO WE HAVE IRRIGATION AND IT'S WONDERFUL. HOWEVER, OUR FIELDS ARE COMPLETELY TORN UP AND WE DON'T HAVE GRASS THAT'S GOING TO GROW BACK. SO ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT TOWARDS THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO RELOOK AT THE PARK CAPITAL BUDGET. THE ESTIMATE THAT CAME IN FOR THE HYDRO MULCH REPLACEMENT IS $102,000. I HAVE SINCE REACHED OUT TO OUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE SOME CONSTRUCTION FENCING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE, THOSE FIELDS SO THAT THE GROUND HAS ENOUGH TIME TO TO GET ROUTED FOR FUTURE PLAY. AND SO AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. BUT I WANTED TO COME FORWARD. SO MOVING FORWARD, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH STAFF IS. WHEN A REQUEST COMES TO PADDOCK, IT NEEDS TO BE FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT UNTIL YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING IT. I FEEL LIKE IN YEARS PAST WE CONTINUE TO COME BACK TO YOU. OH, WE FORGOT FENCING. OH, WE FORGOT THIS. AND SO OUR BIGGEST GOAL MOVING FORWARD FOR BUDGET REQUESTS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU HAVE THE WHOLE PROJECT AND WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU UPDATES BECAUSE 100, $100,000 IS A LOT TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE TO ASK FOR. BUT JUST BEING TRANSPARENT WITH YOU ABOUT THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT, ABOUT THAT, DOES IT JUST COVER THE PORTIONS OF THE FIELD WHERE THE TRENCHING HAPPENED OR IS IT IT'S COMPLETE? YEAH. SO WE WE WILL IT'LL BE THE ENTIRE FIELDS, WHICH WILL BE NICE. SO WITH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, YEAH, WE ARE ABLE TO COMPLETELY RESOD THOSE FIELDS. BASICALLY THE CONCESSION STANDS TO THE EXCEL. 
          YES. OKAY. LIONS CLUB, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM. ABOUT THE PAVILION LOCATION. I PUT SOME NOTES ON HERE ABOUT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO ADD TO OUR CAPITAL PLANNING, BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED ON WHAT PROJECTS WE'RE PUSHING OR USHERING THROUGH ON THE CITY SIDE. SO MEETING WITH THE THE DREAM TEAM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DREDGING AND REALLY GETTING A PARK WHERE PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE IT. WE HAVE A PICTURESQUE FISHING DOCK THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO ADD, AND ALSO GETTING SOME PADDLE BOARDS. 
          WE'RE WE'RE PICTURING PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THE SAILBOAT RACING AND THE BOAT RACING AND STUFF THERE. SO THIS NEXT YEAR WE'RE USING SOME DRAINAGE FUNDING. WE'LL BE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOME SOME REALLY BIG PROJECTS FOR THAT BINGO LAKE SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT CLEANED UP 
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A LITTLE BIT. WHEN YOU'RE GOING FORWARD ON THESE TYPES OF REPORT, CAN WE PUT THE ONES THAT. IT'S A CITY KIND OF. WELL, YES. SO WE KNOW. YEAH FOR SURE I CAN DO THAT. AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING IN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS. YEAH I'LL, I'LL SEPARATE THOSE OUT ANOTHER CITY PROJECT IN. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, THE SWIMMING POOL WAS A HOT TOPIC THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT STAFF NEEDED TO HAVE WITH CITY COUNCIL. SO THEY ARE EXPANDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW ON THE SWIMMING POOL. WE ARE DEDICATED TO KEEPING THE PUBLIC POOL OPEN. AND SO THAT MEANS OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW LARGE PROJECTS THAT COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. BUT SO THAT WILL ALSO BE HAPPENING AT BINGOL BASEBALL FIELDS. AGAIN. FUTURE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIELD RESTORATION AND WHAT WE CAN DO AT THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS. AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT SPORTS TOURISM. AND ONCE YOU TAKE A STEP BACK AND YOU MEET WITH THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WE DON'T NEED A NEW FACILITY, WE HAVE BEEN GILL PARK, WHICH HAS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT IT COULD BE A SPORTS FACILITY FOR TOURNAMENTS, FOR SPORTS TOURISM. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF THE FOCUS FOR THIS DEPARTMENT IS TO USHER SOME PROJECTS THROUGH BING GILL THAT WOULD CHECK SOME BOXES ON SPORTS TOURISM WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK AT NEW FACILITIES. BUT ONE THING THAT MAY COME TO PADDOCK IS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE LIST, IS THE CONCESSION STAND AND RESTROOM RENOVATION UP AT THE BASEBALL FIELDS. WE KNOW THAT THAT IS IT'S PRETTY BAD. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT BREEZY HILL PARK. WE WILL GET A FULL UPDATE FROM KIMLEY-HORN HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE PARK BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT, OBVIOUSLY THE MAIN RENOVATIONS, IS THE CITY HANDLING THE THE REMOVAL OF POLK STREET AND BRINGING UP ALL OF THE GRADING AND MAKING SURE ALL OF THAT HAPPENS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A SPLASH PAD, PARK BOARD WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ON YOUR LIST, THAT COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION. BUT WHAT I'VE NEVER HEARD IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION OF MAYBE RENOVATING THE RESTROOM ONLY WITHIN THAT FACILITY. AND SO NOT NECESSARILY HAVING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE PLAN OR THE ADD ON TO THE CENTER, BUT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS THERE. SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT SEPARATELY. STALLINGS PARK, SAME THING AS ARLEE WHITE. Y'ALL HAD APPROVED SOME OF THE SMALLER AMENITIES, AND THOSE WILL BE ON ORDER FOR SPRING INSTALLATION. OTHER PROJECTS. KING'S CREEK, WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD. CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THE FINAL CONCEPT PLAN FOR KING'S CREEK AND WE ARE IN FULL DESIGN. SHOULD BE BIDDING THAT PROJECT WITHIN THE NEXT SIX, PROBABLY 6090 DAYS AND WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS SUMMER. CROSSROADS PARK STILL IS IN CONNECTION WITH MOBY'S. AGAIN, THAT'S A TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT, BUT IT'S STILL OUT THERE AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS. AND I MARKED THROUGH DOG PARK BECAUSE WE STOPPED TALKING ABOUT DOG PARKS WHEN WE DECIDED TO SPEND MORE MONEY AT THE MUNICIPAL POOL. SO JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, INCLUDING MOBY'S AND OTHER THINGS. THERE WILL BE DOG PARKS POP UP EVERYWHERE, SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND THE NEXT PAGE IN YOUR PACKET IS JUST A PROJECT UPDATE FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. BING GIL SOCCER SPRINKLER SYSTEM. AGAIN, WE ARE 90% COMPLETE. WE DO HAVE A QUOTE FOR $102,000 FOR THE HYDRO MULCH. I HAD A MEETING WITH AJ THIS WEEK TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE SPRINKLER AND THE SOD SITUATION, AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED TO THIS BOARD THAT WE WILL BE FINE FOR SPRING SEASON AND WE WILL BE PLAYING AJ AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS CONCLUDED THAT THERE WILL NOT BE AN OUTDOOR SPRING SEASON. AJ DOESN'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BOTHER PARENTS, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GAMES THAT WILL BE PLAYED INDOORS, AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO ACCOMMODATE OUTDOOR PRACTICES, ETC. AND JUST MOVE SOME PEOPLE AROUND ON THE DIFFERENT FIELDS. SO BUT WE'VE COORDINATED THAT WITH ISD, AND 
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AJ'S WORKED WITH US THROUGH THIS ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. BUT I DID NEED TO PULL BACK ON THE STATEMENT THAT, SURE, WE'LL BE WILL BE PLAYING SOCCER ON THOSE FIELDS. AND AGAIN, THE THE OTHER TWO, WHICH WERE CITY OF TERRELL EXPENSES, THE POOL FILTER, WHICH WAS ABOUT $100,000. AND THEN ALSO WE HAD TO DO THE POND OVERFLOW STRUCTURE, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, WE HAD 1600 RAINBOW TROUT PUT INTO BINGO PARK THIS WEEK. AND BECAUSE THE OVERFLOW HADN'T BEEN REPAIRED AND WELL, INSTEAD OF SENDING THE TROUT DOWN OUR DRAINAGE DITCHES THROUGH TERRELL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THE POND THIS YEAR, WHICH IS WHICH IS AMAZING. SO SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT OVERFLOW REPAIRED SO THAT THAT WAS A BIG DEAL. GOING TO LET KIMLEY-HORN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT BEN GILL. AND THEN THE VERY LAST PAGE IS WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT MONEY AND HOW EVERYTHING WILL GET MOVED AROUND, WITH YOUR PERMISSION. ALL RIGHT. HOW ARE Y'ALL THIS MORNING? GOOD. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WE WANTED TO COVER, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IS THE SPLASH PAD ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT AT BREEZY HILL AND, AND WORKING WITH A TEAM. WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT CENTERING THAT HOW YOU'VE SEEN THERE. THERE'S A TRAIL CONNECTION THAT COMES FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST. AND THERE'S ALSO ONE THAT COMES NORTH AND SOUTH THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE COURTS. AND IT'S A IT'S A NICE AND ADEQUATE SPACE TO TO HAVE A SPLASH PAD THERE. IT'S ALSO A NICE ADJACENCY TO CONNECT STORM LINE AND DRAINAGE AND WHATNOT TO ACTUALLY GET THIS THING WORKING PROPERLY. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS JUST A, A PRETTY. LIKE I SAY, NICE SIZE SPLASH PAD FOR A PARK OF THIS NATURE. IT'S, IT'S SITUATED IN THIS AREA. SO WE COULD CONNECT THOSE TWO TRAIL SYSTEMS AND HAVE IT HAVE THE PARK FLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED SOME SEATING THAT DARKER KIND OF BROWN CIRCLE TO THE NORTH TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, PARENTS COULD ALSO SIT ON BOTH SIDES AND LOOK AT SPLASH PAD TO WATCH THEIR KIDS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO WATCH THEIR KIDS ON THE THE WEST SIDE ON THE, THE PLAYGROUND. SO THIS IS APPROXIMATELY I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS BUDGET OR NOT, BUT 200 TO 250 K TO DO THIS, TO EXECUTE IT. AND WE THINK IT'S NICE. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S KIND OF A A DEPICTION FROM, FROM OUR SUPPLIERS OF WHAT THOSE ELEMENTS ARE. WE, WE TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEMENTS THAT WE CHOSE WERE GOOD AND MET THE BUDGET, BUT ALSO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EASY TO BREAK, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG, BIG THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THAT WE THINK IT'D BE GREAT. IT'D BE A GREAT ADDITION FOR THE PARK AND GET USED A LOT. SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICK? YEAH I DON'T I'M WORRIED THAT WE DID NOT. AND MAYBE I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. MAYBE MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD FEELS THIS WAY, BUT IN MY MIND, THE BREEZY HILL SPLASH PAD WAS GOING TO BE LIKE A PIRATE SHIP OR LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT HAD A WATER INTEGRATION THAN LIKE, FRANKLY, LIKE A SPRING. LIKE TO ME, THIS IS MORE LIKE THE DOWNTOWN VISION OF A FOUNTAIN STYLE SPLASH PAD. SO I KNOW WE KIND OF HAD TALKED ABOUT A CERTAIN BUDGET, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GET SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE LIKE KID FUN. YES. COLORFUL. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. SO. 
          YEAH. NO, I'LL BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT. THOSE, THOSE TOYS AND THINGS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          SO WE CAN WE CAN THROW OUT OPTIONS ALL DAY LONG. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. AND WE'VE SEEN THE ONE AT FORNEY I HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAD IN MIND BECAUSE THAT'S OUR COMPETITION. YEP. YEAH SURE. AND WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND GO, OH WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          OR HEY, WE NEED TO WAIT TWO YEARS SO WE CAN BUDGET FOR THAT. BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I'D LOVE THE SEATING INTEGRATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IF IT NEEDS SHADING WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND AGAIN, OUR BIGGEST AS IT ALWAYS IS, IS TO MEET THE BUDGET. WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING, WE WANT TO MEET THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID HERE. BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WORK. I TRUST ME, IF I CAN SIT DOWN WITH A PIECE OF PAPER AND GO AT IT, I'LL DO IT. SO BUT YEAH, NO, WE CAN WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS AND KIND OF IS A LOOK AT COST. IF THIS IS PRICED AT 250 THIS IS OPTION A. AND YOU KNOW 
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THE STRUCTURES HERE CAN BE COLORFUL. OPTION B MAY BE THESE THIS SAME STRUCTURES WITH COLOR AND SOME SCREENING. YEP. POPS OF COLOR. YEP. AND THEN OPTION C IS A REALLY COOL LIKE FOCAL PIECE THEY CAN CLIMB ON I THINK ALSO WHAT DOESN'T SHOW IN THIS PICTURE IS THE COLOR THAT COMES UP FROM THE THE NET FLOORING. SO LIKE IT IT'LL BE SPIRALED WITH COLOR. AND SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST THAT GRAY. I DON'T THINK WE PUT THAT. NO IT'S NOT THERE. I WASN'T AS MUCH WORRIED ABOUT THE COLOR BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN DO STUFF WITH THAT. BUT ANY ANY I CALL THIS A WATER FEATURE, ANY WATER FEATURE I'VE SEEN LIKE THIS. THE KIDS PLAY FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN THEY'RE BORED AND THEY GO AWAY. YEAH. AND IT'S HEAVILY USED AS BREEZY HILL PARK IS WE NEED SOMETHING THAT THE KIDS WILL ACTUALLY USE, AND THE PARENTS CAN. THE SEATING IS NICE, BUT THE JUST TO BE HONEST, I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT CLOSE TO OTHER PEOPLE WHEN I'M SITTING THERE, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH PEOPLE IF I'M GOING TO BE SITTING THERE. SO TO ME, IN MY MIND, I HAD ENVISIONED SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF TABLES OR CLUSTERS. YEAH. WHERE YOUR PARENTS ARE NOT JUST LINED UP LIKE THEY'RE SURE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE PARENTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT AS WELL WHILE THEIR KIDS ARE PLAYING. RIGHT. AND IN THIS FEATURE, TO ME, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO KIND OF EVEN INTERACT WITH ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S THERE OTHER THAN THE PERSON ON THEIR RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THOSE LIKE POWDER COATED THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A TABLE IN THE MIDDLE WITH FOUR BENCHES ON THE ALL ONE PIECE. I FEEL LIKE WE COULD ORDER THOSE AND PUT THOSE IN THE GRASSY AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR US TO ADD THAT CONCEPT. BUT YEAH, MAYBE SOME SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WE COULD PUT THOSE UNDER WOULD BE GOOD. WELL, ONE OTHER THING THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO THINK ABOUT TOO IS PHASING. YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE DO SOMETHING MORE, LET'S JUST SAY A MORE GRAND PICTURE, MAYBE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS THIS EXTRA SHADE ELEMENT OR SHADE ELEMENTS OR SEATING AREAS OR TABLES, CHAIRS, WHATEVER IT IS, LANDSCAPING, EVEN THOSE CAN BE PHASED LATER AND IT WOULDN'T HURT THE DESIGN. YOU CAN GET DAY ONE, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO GO WITH ON THE SPLASH PAD AND THEN ADD TO IT SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. DO YOU ALL AS A FAMILY EVER GO TO A SPLASH PAD? WE HAVEN'T IN A WHILE, BUT YES. OKAY. WHEN OUR KIDS WERE LITTLE LIKE TODDLERS, THEY WERE SPLASH PAD BY THE TIME THEY HIT FOUR. IF THERE'S A PLAYGROUND NEXT TO IT, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THAT PLAYGROUND. THIS IS REALLY DESIGNED FOR THE LITTLE KIDS AND FOR THE BIG KIDS TO MAYBE RUN THROUGH AND COOL OFF. YEAH, BUT I AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A REALLY COOL FEATURE HERE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF PHASING, STARTING WITH A COLORFUL, NOT BLANK SLATE, BUT SIMPLE SLATE, AND THEN WE CAN ADD TO IT IN THE FUTURE IF THEY'LL COOL DOWN. YEAH, IT'LL BE NEW AND SHINY. YEP. THIS IS OUR FIRST FORAY INTO A SPLASH PAD, SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAINTAIN THIS THING, KEEP IT CLEAN. I'M SURE THERE'S CODES THAT GO WITH IT. SO THIS IS A GREAT START OKAY. YEAH. NO ABSOLUTELY I MEAN THE SCALE WAS ONE THING. THE SCALE IS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST THING WITH THIS. 
          AND IT'S AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO WHERE YOU DON'T WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT'S PRETTY BIG. IT'S JUST THE COST ADDS UP REALLY FAST. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE MET THE BUDGET. WE CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS TO THIS TIMELINE, RIGHT. SO THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO GET THIS THING BUILT BY JUNE. 
          YEAH, IT'S A THOUGHT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S A THOUGHT. THESE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE LOCATION? I LIKE THE LOCATION. I LIKE THAT THEY CAN TRAIL INTEGRATION. THAT TRAIL INTEGRATION IS A BIG PIECE OF IT. SO THERE WILL BE SOME SITE WORK NOT NOT A TON DRAINAGE WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH, THOSE TRAIL CONNECTIONS WILL BE A NICE LITTLE ADD. OKAY, SOME OF THOSE MEN WILL BE COMING OVER FROM THE BASKETBALL COURT TO COOL OFF TOO. YEAH. OH YEAH, 100% IN WOMEN I KNOW I WOULD YEAH. QUESTION IS, IS THERE LIKE A FILTRATION PUMP SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED SOMEWHERE YOU CAN DO THE FILTRATION SYSTEM? IT'S HIGHLY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS NEEDED. SO IT IS NOT THIS ONE IS NOT PLANNED TO HAVE A FILTRATION SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IT'S JUST WATER. IT LITERALLY IS JUST IT LEAVES THE SITE. SO IT GOES INTO YOUR SANITARY AND IT'S IT'S LIKE A POOL. IF IT WAS OVERFLOW, WHERE WILL THE PUMP BE LOCATED? I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE YET. SUBSURFACE. 
          YES. YEAH. OR SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY ABOVE SURFACE HIDDEN. IT WILL WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THOSE MECHANICS. BUT YES. YEP. LIKELY TO BE UNSEEN. IS THE MATERIAL SPONGY RUBBERY MATERIAL OR IS 
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IT. THIS IS CONCRETE. CONCRETE. YEAH. YEAH. WHICH WILL BE EASIER TO MAINTAIN OKAY. YEP. 
          WILL THE CITY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SPLASH PAD? YES. IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG. YEAH. AND LIKE I SAY, SELFISHLY, THAT'S WHY WE WERE STARTING SMALLER SO THAT WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT THAT WAY. YEAH. THE THE THE ELEMENTS TO GO WITHIN. I THINK WE'LL WANT TO FIGURE THAT OUT NOW THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL WANT TO COME BACK AND ADD ON FOR THE PLUMBING PURPOSES. YOU PROBABLY COULD, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT EASY. OR, YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD WANT TO DO EITHER. SO THOSE THOSE THINGS PROBABLY NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT QUICK. IT'LL BE GOOD THOUGH. 
          IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE PARK FOR SURE. DID THE PARK BOARD SEE THIS LAST NIGHT? DID THEY HAVE COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN? THEY LIKED IT. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. YEAH. NO, WE WE WALKED THROUGH IT. AND SINCE THE NEXT PAGE IS BUDGET AND ALSO KIND OF PLAYS INTO THIS DISCUSSION HERE. WORKING WITH KIMLEY-HORN, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I SAID WAS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY DURABLE. AND SO WHEN WE WERE GOING TO THE CATALOG, THERE ARE SO MANY FUN THINGS THAT YOU CAN ADD TO THESE. BUT WITH THIS BEING OUR FIRST ONE, WE WANTED TO SEE HOW THE KIDS PLAYED WITH IT. HOW WELL DO DOES OUR COMMUNITY TAKE CARE OF IT? BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE PIECES, AS IT BREAKS, IS MINIMUM $12,000 FOR REPLACEMENT. 
          AND SO EVERY TIME SOMETHING GOES OUT AND SINCE IT'S, YOU KNOW, AN ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM, YOU YOU HAVE TO TURN IT OFF IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING. SO WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF ITEMS, WE WERE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THICK ROD. IT WAS THINGS THAT IF KIDS WERE HANGING OFF OF IT, OR IF THE BIGGER KIDS DID RUN THROUGH THERE TO TRY TO COOL OFF, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE FELT WOULD BE MORE DURABLE, ESPECIALLY WITH IT BEING RIGHT THERE BY THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT WE KNOW OLDER KIDS ARE GOING TO BE AT. AND SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND ADDING THINGS. WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT WE COULD ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT ADDING IF WE WANTED MORE ELEMENTS, AND MAYBE WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE IN MIND AND WE DO THE PIPING FOR THEM. 
          AND SO NEXT YEAR, IF WE WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE MORE ELEMENTS, THEN WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PREPARE FOR THOSE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY NOT NECESSARILY PUT IT IN THE 20 OR $25,000 BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE PLUMBING FOR MAYBE 4 OR 5 ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS. WE YEAH, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT START. IT GETS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN, IT DOES THE GRADING. IT GETS ALL OF THE WATERING CONNECTIONS. AND ONCE WE HAVE THESE SPECIFICS OF THE LAYOUT, PERHAPS I COULD BRING BACK TO YOU THE SCHEMATIC THAT WOULD SHOW WHERE WE COULD ADD OTHER FEATURES. AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE FEATURES WOULD COST. AND IF YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN AT THIS TIME, WE COULD, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY PREPARE THE SITE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FEATURES IF WE WANTED TO. WOULD YOU FLIP BACK ONE SCREEN? THIS IS JUST A FEAR OF ME HAVING HAD CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. ANYTIME YOU HAVE A SINGLE PIPE STICKING UP OUT OF A THING, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO RUN INTO IT, RUN OVER IT. SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED. WHAT'S THE THING IN THE MIDDLE? THE BROWN, THE BROWN THING? SWIMSUITS PLAYING WITH. BECAUSE THAT THAT, THAT TO ME LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TOTAL EMPTY SPACE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE NO WATER IS COMING UP. YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE THOSE LITTLE LIKE, CONNECTION PIECES THAT MAKE OTHER ELEMENTS WORK? THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. SO IT'S LIKE YOU CAN GO OVER THERE AND HIT THE BUTTON OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THESE ITEMS, WE CAN MOVE AROUND. AND WE SHOWED WE SHOWED RAVEN AND HER TEAM OTHER OPTIONS THAT HAD OTHER TOYS. WE CAN MIX THOSE TOYS AROUND ALL DAY LONG. THIS WAS LIKE THE THIS WAS A PACKAGE THAT AGAIN WAS FUN. MET THE BUDGET. IF WE START TO GO, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT A $15,000 ELEMENT IN PLACE OF THIS $12,000 ELEMENT, SOMETHING THAT THIS WHOLE GROUP 
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LIKES AND IT LOOKS BETTER. IT'S COLORFUL. IT'S WHATEVER. I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AS WELL, BECAUSE I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WITH THOSE TWO THINGS THAT ARE POLES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE HURT, KIDS HURT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING, AND THEY ARE GOING TO HIT SMACK INTO THAT. AT LEAST IF WE HAD SOMETHING THERE THAT HAD WAS MORE EITHER RAW OR SOMETHING, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE LESS OF AN ISSUE. 
          AND AGAIN, IN THAT MIDDLE FEATURE, THE WATER PARKS I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY HAD INNER KIND OF INTERACTIVE, THEY WERE EITHER BIG AND GRAND, WHICH THEY HAD BUCKETS THAT EMPTIED AND ALL THAT. THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ONE LITTLE INTERACTIVE ONE, THAT'S ONE I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROBABLY. YEAH, THAT'S JUST MY THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. WE APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ASKING YOU, WELL WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS SPELLED OUT OKAY. SLIDES PLEASE. I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT ANALYSIS PARALYSIS. I'M EXCITED ABOUT A JUNE DELIVERY DATE. I THINK WE ANY FEEDBACK WE HAVE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO YOU ALL. I KNOW THAT YOU'LL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND THEN WE AS A BOARD ARE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE ON WHAT THE BUDGET IS FOR PHASE ONE OF THIS. AND THEN WE NEED TO LET YOU ALL GO. AND. RIGHT. SO WHAT I WAS FIXING TO SAY IS WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME ASPHALT. IT IS GOING TO TAKE THIS CONTRACTOR, I'M ASSUMING, ABOUT 30 DAYS TO GET THE PLANS TOGETHER. SO WHAT WE KNOW IS THE LOCATION IS CORRECT. WE KNOW THAT THE SIZING IS CORRECT. WE CAN START LOOKING AT THE UTILITY LINES. SO HOW ABOUT OUR FEBRUARY MEETING. WE WILL HAVE VERY WE WE WILL BRING TO YOU AT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR THE ACTUAL PIECES THAT ARE GOING IN. 
          AND THEN THAT'LL BE ONE MEETING, ONE JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A FINAL LOOK AT IT. BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS NOT STOP THE CONTRACTOR FROM STARTING WITH THIS BASIC LOCATION AND DESIGN. 
          DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT'S THE FLAG THING ON THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER WITH THE. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVE TO GO AND LOOK. WE LOOKED AT WE LOOKED AT PROBABLY 35 DIFFERENT TOY ELEMENTS AND THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, SO I COULDN'T I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION ACCURATELY, BUT WE CAN I THINK WE HAD A SLIDE. AND AGAIN I THINK THAT THIS I WOULDN'T HURT I DON'T THINK, TO PRESENT THIS, BUT WE HAD SLIDES WITH ALL THOSE TOYS AS SEPARATE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW YOU HOW THEY WORK. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A BAD THING TO SHOW THE NEXT TIME. ONCE WE SOLIDIFY THE THE THE ELEMENTS TO GO, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD IS OKAY WITH IT AND LIKES IT FOR SURE. SO WE WILL HAVE FINAL DECISION FOR THE ELEMENTS IN FEBRUARY. BUT BASED ON OUR NEXT ACTION ITEM WILL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO TO GET STARTED. YEAH. SOUND GOOD? OKAY. 
          SO THE LAST PART OF THIS ITEM IS I'VE PREPARED KIND OF AN UPDATE TO YOUR PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET SHEET. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THE PHASE ONE SOCCER FIELD, IRRIGATION EXPENSES TO DATE AND THEN OUR OUTSTANDING EXPENSES. WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN IS THE HYDROSEEDING AT THE SOCCER FIELDS, WHICH IS THE 102. YOU HAVE BREEZY HILLS SPLASH PAD WHICH WE HAD BUDGETED 150. WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL 100,000 FOR THE $250,000 ESTIMATE. AND THEN THE DELIVERY OF THE ARLEIGH WHITE AMENITIES. AND ALSO STALLINGS. THAT BUDGET IS ALREADY IN THERE. SO HIGHLIGHTED TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IS A FEW THINGS THAT SOME COST SAVINGS FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAD ADDED FOR ARLEIGH WHITE TO GET A RESTROOM, WHICH I DO KNOW IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. HOWEVER, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PARTNER THAT WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE RESTROOM AT KING'S CREEK SO THAT WHEN THAT CONTRACTOR COMES IN AND WE FINALLY DETERMINE, IS IT CHEAPER TO BUILD OR IS IT CHEAPER TO BUILD A MODULAR, WE CAN ORDER THOSE AND INSTALL THOSE AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD BE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN KING'S CREEK WITH A DELIVERY ON THE ARLEIGH WHITE RESTROOM BY OCTOBER. 
          WOULD THOUSAND DOLLAR NUMBER. IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN YOUR 26 BUDGET AND I'M MOVING IT TO THE 27TH SO WE CAN BUILD IT FOR THAT. NOT YET. YEAH. SO IT WAS JUST THE THE BUDGET NUMBER. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU WITH YOUR ORIGINAL BUDGET, HOW MUCH MONEY I'M ACTUALLY ASKING FOR TO MAKE THESE TWO. YOU HAD ALSO APPROVED 15,000 FOR SOLAR LIGHTING AT STALLINGS. AFTER TALKING TO PERCY AND HIS STAFF. WE ACTUALLY NEED TO WAIT TO DO THE SOLAR LIGHTING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME WALKING TRAIL UPDATES. SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO 
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IS INSTALL LIGHTING AND THEN MOVE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING. SO WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THAT 15,000 MOVE OVER TO 27. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PUTS YOUR ENTIRE EXPENSES BY ADDING THE 100,000 FOR THE IRRIGATION AND THE 100,000 FOR BREEZY HILL. IT STILL PUTS YOUR TOTAL EXPENSES FOR PARK CAPITAL AT 642,000, WHICH IS $7,000 UNDER BUDGET. WHAT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO EVEN WITH THOSE TWO ADD ONS, YOU'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAN. WHICH OF THESE LINE ITEMS ARE WE MOST AT RISK FOR ACTUALLY GOING OVER ON? NONE. YEAH. NO, WE THESE ARE THESE ARE FROM NUMBERS BECAUSE WE WILL LIMIT OUR PURCHASES OF TABLES, TRASH, ETC. TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET AND THE, THE THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THE SPLASH PAD AND ALSO THE HYDROSEEDING, THOSE ARE ACTUAL QUOTES. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS RIGHT. SO ARE WE ON THE. YEP. ON THE BREEZY HILL SPLASH PAD. IT'S $150,000 EXPENDITURE AND 2026. AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL HUNDRED. YOU HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED 150. AND MY REQUEST IS AN ADDITIONAL 100 OKAY. SO THE ADDITIONAL HUNDRED IS NOT IN 27. THE THE OKAY. YEAH. SO THE BOTTOM HALF OF THAT IS YOUR BUDGET PLANNING. 
          THE ■TOP HALF OF THAT IS ACTUAL EXPENSES OKAY. YEAH. THIS PAGE MAKES MY BRAIN. SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS TOP PORTION ON THE TOP ONE, WHERE IS THE $150,000 FOR THE SPLASH PAD? OH, I SEE IT RIGHT ABOVE 100, I APOLOGIZE. OKAY, IT'S ALL THERE. YEAH. SO DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE WE KNOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ACROSS OUR PARKS THIS FISCAL YEAR OUR CITIZENS WOULD GET IRRIGATION AT THE JUST THE SOCCER FIELD AT THE SOCCER FIELD. BUT THE PART THAT THEY USE AND GRASS AND A NICE NEW SPLASH PAD. SOME UPGRADES AT ARLEY WHITE AND SOME UPGRADES AT STALLINGS AND KING'S CREEK IS KIND OF HAPPENING. KING'S CREEK IS HAPPENING THROUGH THE GRANT. SO THAT CITY FUNDED AND GRANT FUNDING. WHAT ARE THEY GETTING IN 26? THEY ARE GETTING BRAND NEW WALKING TRAILS, RESTROOM, A COMPLETE RENOVATION. YEAH, THERE'S IS A $1.7 MILLION RENOVATION. OKAY. IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BUDGET REPORT? ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING WE WERE EXPECTING TO SEE? YEAH. DOWNTOWN AND. ANY CHANGES LIKE BEING ABLE TO. TABLES AND STUFF THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO COVER IF WE WANT TO GO IN AND ADD TABLES OR SHADE STRUCTURES, WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ADDITIONAL PHASES. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THE BENCHES IN. YOU'LL HAVE THE WALKWAYS, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WAS ON THE SCREEN. AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN ALWAYS GIVE YOU PRICING. IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A TABLE HERE OR, AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO ADD SOME OF THOSE. WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR BUDGET, THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, YOU MAY HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND ALLOCATE TO THAT, BUT THAT THAT WOULD GIVE YOU EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ON THE SCREEN. 7000. YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES, PLEASE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU. HILLARY, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. JC ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED SAME SEX. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IT FOR PARK? PARK CAPITAL PROJECTS? THAT IS 
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ALL FOR PARK. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 6.3, WHERE WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. RFQ 2601 FOR DEVELOPER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. SO THIS I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW, BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL LIKE WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IN THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IS JUST TO GET A FEEL FROM THE BOARD. IF THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH. SO WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE FOR THE RFQ 2601. YOU'VE GOT A COPY OF THE RESPONSE IN YOUR PACKET. IT WAS DONE BY A DEVELOPER WHO HAS A HISTORY OF RENOVATING BUILDINGS HERE IN TERRELL. SO IT WAS MALONE AND FIVE COAT. THEY GAVE SOME DIFFERENT PRICING OPTIONS. AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE PRICING OPTIONS. SO THE INITIAL EVALUATION TEAM, WHICH CONSISTED OF THREE OF OUR PADDOCK BOARD MEMBERS, WE HAD THE CITY ENGINEER BUILDING, OFFICIAL FIRE MARSHAL, AND ALSO ANGIE WITH THE CHAMBER WHO SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE. AND WE REVIEWED THE RFQ AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE OVERALL PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN. I WANTED THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO REALLY TALK TO THE GROUP ABOUT HOW THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH THIS DEVELOPER AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL THAT THE CITY HAD IN THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE ON REVIEW. THE AS BUILTS THAT WE HAVE AFTER THE FACT. SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DEVELOPER, AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS DEFINITELY IF THE PADDOCK WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD, WE FELT LIKE WE AS A CITY COULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND TO PADDOCK TO WORK WITH THIS DEVELOPER. AS FAR AS THE RFQ, WHAT WE HAD ASKED WAS THE DEVELOPER GIVE US SOME FINANCING OPTIONS TO GO AND LOOK AT THE BUILDING, FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, PERHAPS THROW OUT SOME IDEAS FOR THE BUILDING. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, SOME OF THE SCOPE WAS WE DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH THEM INTO MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD TENANTS, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO SEE THEIR FINANCIAL PLAN, A BUSINESS PLAN. AND SO THIS WAS AN IDEAL RESPONSE AS FAR AS REFERENCES AND WHAT THEY FIGURED AS FAR AS THEIR ROI ON THE PROPERTY, WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE WILLING TO DO TO HELP GET A TENANT INTO THIS BUILDING. SO THIS IS BASIC OPEN CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF DOING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE CHAPMAN BUILDING. BUT THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF ACTION ITEMS THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD STILL NEED TO COME BACK TO PADDOCK AS FAR AS PRICING. WHEN THE OWNERSHIP CHANGED OVER, HOW WOULD THE CONTRACT READ. 
          BUT BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT, WE FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED THE PERMISSION TO GET THE DEVELOPER IN THE ROOM. SO THIS IS PERMISSION. AND ULTIMATELY WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, IF PADDOCK RECOMMENDS THIS, WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE A RESOLUTION THAT GIVES THE CITY MANAGER AUTHORIZATION TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THIS RESPONDENT OF THE RFQ. AND DURING THOSE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GET. WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, AND YOU WILL GET UPDATES ON CONTRACT TERMS UNTIL WE FINALLY SETTLE ON THE FINAL CONTRACT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO DO IS TO SUBMIT THOSE QUESTIONS TO ME SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSED DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS, AND THEN IT WE WILL ABSOLUTELY PLAN DURING OUR REGULAR MEETINGS TO GIVE YOU CONTRACT NEGOTIATION UPDATES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UNTIL WE HAVE A TERM SHEET THAT BOTH SIDES AGREES TO WITH US HAVING THE EVALUATION TEAM, THAT DOES MEAN THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE SOME IN-HOUSE CONVERSATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO A TERM SHEET THAT YOU CAN PRESENT TO A BOARD, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS, YOU SEND THOSE QUESTIONS IN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT, AND THAT ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE COMING TO THE TOP. BUT WE THE ENTIRE BOARD WOULD, OF COURSE, BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AND SO AS STAFF, WE WOULD BE 
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GIVING UPDATES TO PADDOCK AND THEN ALSO UPDATES TO CITY COUNCIL UNTIL WE HAD A TERM SHEET THAT BOTH THAT ALL THREE PARTIES AGREED TO AND THEN THAT IT WOULD COME THE WHATEVER THE FINAL NEGOTIATION IS THAT WE LAND ON THE FINAL CONTRACT THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US FOR UP OR DOWN. YES, BECAUSE THE FINAL CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM PADDOCK. SO THIS CONTRACT AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE WRITTEN SUCH THAT FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT, IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE PADDOCK IS RECOMMENDING WITHIN THEIR BUDGET REALM. SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. I'M NOT EXPECTING ANYONE TO HAVE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS. EVEN IF YOU SAY YES TO THE PROCESS, THAT'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL END UP WITH A CONTRACT. ALL I'M ASKING TODAY IS PERMISSION TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE BE ABLE TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER. BASED ON HIS RESPONSE. FULL DISCLOSURE MYSELF AND HILARY AND KEN SAT ON THAT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WE ASKED QUESTIONS AT NAUSEUM. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS, FEEL FREE TO SHARE. I'LL. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I'LL SUMMARIZE KIND OF WHERE THE CONVERSATION LED. THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT FROM OUR PADDOCK BOARD. THE ASK IS OVER $1 MILLION AND OBVIOUSLY OUR MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT WOULD BE MATCHED BY A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER. AND IT'S TURNKEY FOR THIS BUILDING THAT WOULD DELIVER A COMPLETED BUILDING WITH OFFICE SPACE ON THE TOP TWO FLOORS AND RETAIL OR POTENTIALLY RESTAURANT SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. YOU KNOW, NO SECRET ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS IS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, AND HE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE CURRENT MARKET RATES OF RENTAL INCOME IN DOWNTOWN AND SURROUNDING AREAS, AND THE MATH DOESN'T SUPPORT IF THEY WERE TO DO A IF THEY WERE TO PUT IN $3 MILLION THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS ON OTHER BUILDINGS, YOU CAN'T LEASE IT AT MARKET RATES. YOU CAN'T LEASE AN OFFICE FOR. I THINK IT WAS $1,500 A MONTH AND REPAY A NOTE ON A $3 MILLION INVESTMENT. SO OUR AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING THIS IN MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AROUND TOWN. OUR CURRENT LEASE RATES DO NOT SUPPORT COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION OF A LARGE HISTORIC BUILDING IN COMPLETE DISREPAIR. SO WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO GET THINGS MOVING DOWNTOWN. THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST I'M GOING TO GUESS BESIDES THE BANK, LIKE MAYBE THE SECOND LARGEST BUILDING TO THE ANDERSON, WE LEARNED SOME LESSONS ON THE ANDERSON. WE'VE MADE A LARGE INVESTMENT IN ANDERSON BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT TURNKEY. IT'S NOT READY TO BE LEASED. IT'S NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING READY TO BE LEASED. ONE THING THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS RESPONDENT IS THAT THEY ARE ONE OF THEM IS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE BID THIS AT COST OR NOT, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE HAVING TO PAY A FEE AND ALL THEIR MARKUP ON MATERIALS AND LABOR. THAT CAME INTO PLAY. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT CAME INTO PLAY IS IF THE CITY WHO OWNS THIS BUILDING TODAY WERE TO PUT OUT AN RFQ, NOT TO SELL, NOT TO GIVE THE BUILDING, BUT TO FOR THE CITY TO PAY TO HAVE IT REMODELED. WE ALL KNOW THAT THOSE BIDS WOULD COME BACK 2 OR 3 TIMES AS MUCH, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW CITY GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY WORKS. SO IN THIS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, IF DEED IS TRANSFERRED UPON SALE. YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE JUST MUCH, MUCH SMALLER, FRANKLY, THAN IF THE CITY WERE TO TRY TO GO AT IT AT THEIR OWN. SO ANYTHING TO ADD HILLARY OR KEN FROM OUR. YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME IS WHO THIS IS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, BUT WE HAVE SEEN THE BUILDINGS THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE. I THINK 
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IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO NOTE THAT NOT ONLY HAVE THEY COMPLETED EVERY PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE STARTED IN OUR TOWN TO GREAT SUCCESS, BUT ALSO ALL OF THEIR BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAVE REDONE ARE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LEASED AT FULL CAPACITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT SEEN FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS. SO BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT IT IS, NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE THE GOOD PRODUCT, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE TENANTS FOR THAT PROJECT. AND SO IT IS A LOT OF MONEY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOTE AT THIS POINT, WE ARE NOT SIGNING OFF ON ANY FINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY OR WHERE THAT FUNDING IS COMING FROM, OR HOW MANY YEARS WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THAT OVER, OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT COME LATER. WE'RE JUST SAYING, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN? AND IF SO, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION. THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, WHICH, KEN, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, WAS JUST WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO HAVE THE ONE CITY BUILDING DOWNTOWN BEING RENOVATED AND BEING BROUGHT UP TO CODE, AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. SO IF YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. WELL, I THINK THE UNIQUE POSITION IS THE CITY OWNS THIS BUILDING AND IT BECOMES THE STANDARD BY WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO FOR THE DOWNTOWN TO, TO LOOK LIKE. AND THERE'S THE SAFETY ASPECT OF THAT AND THE INADEQUACIES OF THAT BUILDING. AND SO TO TO BRING THIS TO SOME TYPE OF FULL COMPLETION AND ULTIMATELY OCCUPANCY IN IT WOULD MEAN THAT THE CITY, IN COOPERATION WITH, WITH SEVERAL ENTITIES, HAVE HAVE PRODUCED SOMETHING THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD. AND IF YOU OWN A PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SIMILAR TYPE OF INVESTMENT AS AN OWNERSHIP INTO A CITY BUILDING TO BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARDS. I HOPE THAT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY RESULT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE PROCEED WITH DEVELOPER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THE PROVISION THAT THERE WOULD BE MANY, MANY FORTHCOMING CONVERSATIONS. YEAH, WE WE PROMISE NO ONE'S SIGNING ANYTHING UNTIL EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. YEAH. AND IT IT COULD TAKE A WHILE, BUT WE'RE OKAY. SECOND. THANK YOU KEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT RAILING. YES, I JUST I JUST GOT CHILLS. OKAY. LAST ITEM, CAPITAL PROJECT UPDATES. SO GIVE YOU MY OVERALL UPDATE. AND THEN OF COURSE KIMLEY-HORN WILL COME IN LIKE THEY DO. SO MORE AVENUES SOUTH ALLEY RETAIL READY PROGRAM. LAST TIME I REPORTED THAT YOU KNOW WE DID HEAR FROM TERRELL COFFEE. AND I WILL TELL YOU WE ARE GOING TO FLIP THE SCRIPT BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED TO PROPERTY OWNERS, WE HAVE TALKED TO TENANTS, WE HAVE GONE TO CHAMBER RETREATS AND TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT PADDOCK FUNDING. AND IT DAWNED ON US THE OTHER DAY, GOSH, WHO BETTER THAN THE CONTRACTORS IN TERRELL THAN TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE? IF THEY COULD GO OUT AND GET JOBS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS? SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS IN TERRELL, AND WE'RE TALKING TO THEM WHEN THEY COME UP TO THE WINDOW AND MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'VE GOT A FEW CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN CONTACT WITH SOME TENANTS SO THAT THEY CAN START THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND SO WE'VE SHARED OUT SOME OF THE RENDERINGS OF THE TOP ONES IS THE ALL IN ONE SPORTS. WE HAVE A RENDERING FOR THE IRIS. WE ALSO HAVE A BRAND NEW RENDERING FOR RUSTIC CACTUS. AND SO WE'VE GOT 3 OR 4 CONTRACTORS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT, AND THEY'RE GETTING ME SOME PRICING AND SOME IDEAS ON THE RENOVATIONS. 
          AND SO THAT WAY THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE TENANT AND PROPERTY OWNER, GUESS WHAT? WE ALREADY HAVE THE QUOTES. WE HAVE THE PERSON WHO CAN DO IT FOR YOU IF YOU'LL 
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JUST DO IT. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST MASSAGING THAT MESSAGE AND KIND OF FIGURING OUT HOW WE BRING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE. PEOPLE. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING MOREAU'S BUILDING DONE, AND WE'RE KIND OF USING THAT AS THE SAME WAY. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CONTRACTORS WHO ARE GOING TO BE READY, AND MARK THACKER DOES A DEMOLITION PLAN AND A RENOVATION PLAN. SO WHEN I SHARE THAT WITH THE CONTRACTORS, THEY ALREADY KNOW HOW TO HOW TO DO THE PROCESSING AND THE AWNING. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. WE'RE TRYING TO BE CREATIVE IN BRINGING PEOPLE FORWARD. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME RENDERINGS. I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE PROBABLY RUSTIC. CACTUS IS GOING TO HAVE SOME LEGS. THEY I DO BELIEVE THAT MR. DORMAN IS GOING TO BE READY TO GET HIS BUILDING REDONE AS SOON AS THOSE RENDERINGS COME IN. THEY CAME IN YESTERDAY, AND SO I'VE GOT THREE CONTRACTORS LOOKING AT THOSE RENDERINGS NOW. SO EVEN IF WE CAN JUMP OUT THERE AND DO RUSTIC CACTUS, IT'LL BE SOME GOOD ADVERTISEMENT FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO WHEN THEY'RE BIDDING IT, THEY'RE NOT JUST BIDDING AWNING, THEY'RE BIDDING FULL FACADE. 
          FACADE, GLASS REPLACEMENT. YEAH. SO I TOLD MARK TO, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW WHAT STRUCTURALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE FRONT TO LIKE SOME OF THE WINDOW TRIM, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HE'S GOING IN AND DOING SOME DETAIL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THERE. WE'LL ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO GET TO DO 3 OR 4. SO WE'LL HAVE A SIGN ORDINANCE. WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF. IT'S PRETTY STRICT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. SO LAST UPDATED IT HAS BEEN ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS. IS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR OR. 
          EXISTING BUSINESSES GRANDFATHERED. YEAH. BUT AS WE CONVINCE PEOPLE TO PUT UP NEW SIGNAGE, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE. SO IF THEY MAKE CHANGES TO THE FACADE THAT YOU HAVE NOW. YES. YEAH. SO WE, WE, WE HAVE SOME BUILDINGS WHO WOULD GET NEW SIGNAGE FOR SURE. 
          SO WE ARE STILL MOVING AHEAD ON THAT. HOPEFULLY ONE DAY ARABIA AND I WILL STAND UP HERE AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED ONE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT CATHERINE PARKLET HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. MY NOTES HERE ARE JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, AS DECISIONS ARE MADE, THE QUICKER THE DECISIONS ARE MADE, THE MORE TIME THEY GET TO SIT ON TEX DOT'S DESK. BECAUSE JUST LIKE WITH UP, WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUSH THEM. 
          BUT SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. US LIGHTING IS GOING TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT. WE DID DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. THEY MADE A DECISION. SO WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU. SOUTH ALLEY. LIKE I REPORTED BEFORE WE'LL BRING THE BUDGET TO YOU NEXT MONTH. AND THEN WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR THE GREEN LIGHT. YOU KNOW THAT THE CARNEGIE LIBRARY RECEIVED THEIR GRANT, SOME BUSINESS UPDATES. LIKE I SAID, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE RUSTIC CACTUS CAN GET A RENOVATION THIS YEAR. THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO REALLY LIKED THE CHRISTMAS MARKET. 
          HAVING THE VENDORS SPACE AVAILABLE, AND SO THIS COULD BE A FUTURE. AND I DON'T LIKE THE WORD CONSIGNMENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO BUT KIND OF ENVISION THE ANTIQUE STORE IN KAUFMAN WHERE PEOPLE RENT BOOTH SPACE, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO SELL ITEMS WITHIN. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE ANTIQUE STORE IN DOWNTOWN, BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA BEHIND THAT BUILDING. SO THAT THAT'S GOT SOME LEGS ON IT. JONATHAN IS MOVING AHEAD WITH TERRELL SOCIAL. THE CITY WILL BE HELPING HECTOR GET THAT BUILDING GONE ALONG SOUTH ALLEY, WHICH WILL GIVE HIM SOME FENCING OPTIONS AND BE ABLE TO FINISH UP. LYRIC BUILDING IS BEING A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL EVENT CENTER. THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT GO ON DOWNTOWN THERE, AND THEY DID COMPLETE THE EXTERIOR WALL REPAIR TO THE SLIM BUILDING, WHICH I HAVE TO SAY LOOKS REALLY GOOD WHEN YOU TURN DOWN. MORE FROM VIRGINIA DOWNTOWN EVENTS. WE DO HAVE TEXAS DOWNTOWN THAT'S COMING IN JANUARY 26TH. THE CHAMBER IS HELPING HOST TEXAS DOWNTOWN AND OUR DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO HELP THEM GET ORGANIZED AS AN ASSOCIATION AND KIND OF REITERATE TO THEM THE EVENTS, THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO IF THEY COME TOGETHER AS A GROUP OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AND OUTSIDE OF THE CHAMBER. SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO 
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HELP FOSTER THAT. ANGIE AND I STARTED A QUARTERLY REAL ESTATE MEETING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE REALLY PUSHING DOWNTOWN PROPERTIES AND EVENTS. 
          AND ALSO IN ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, ONE NOTE THAT I WANTED TO ADD IS I, WHICH IS WHEN WE GO TO VEGAS EVERY YEAR AND WE TALK ABOUT TERRELL AND WE GET TO, YOU KNOW, GO FACE TO FACE WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS. BIG PUSH THIS YEAR. IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO START PUTTING OUR PACKETS TOGETHER EARLY IS GOING TO BE OUR AVAILABLE DOWNTOWN PROPERTIES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT TOWN SQUARE. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MARKETING PIECES AVAILABLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. I LEARNED A LOT MY FIRST YEAR THAT I WENT, AND YOU KNOW HOW HOW IT IS AND WHAT IT IS I NEED TO BE HANDING PEOPLE TO REALLY GET THEM TO, TO TUNE IN TO DOWNTOWN SO THEY'LL THEY'LL BE A SPECIAL SECTION THAT THAT WILL PREPARE FOR THAT. I MEAN, THOSE ARE LIKE NATIONAL RETAILERS. NOT NECESSARILY. YOU HAVE TONS OF DEVELOPERS. WHAT I WAS SHOCKED ABOUT IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR SECOND GENERATION BUILDINGS, SECOND GENERATION ASK IN 10TH GENERATION. WELL THAT TOO. YES. SO YOU'VE GOT ARCHITECTURE FIRMS WHO WORK WITH CERTAIN DEVELOPERS. AND THERE WERE TONS AND TONS OF EXAMPLES OF THOSE FIRMS AND THE DOWNTOWNS THAT THEY DID. NOT A LOT IN TEXAS, BUT DEFINITELY UP NORTH. I WAS AMAZED AT THE THE LEVEL OF JUST DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AT THAT SHOW. ONE THING THAT WE NEEDED TO BE PREPARED FOR WAS HAVING THAT ACTIVE LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE FOR SALE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN STRIP CENTERS AND COMPLETELY REMODELED THEM. AND SO I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT, YES, OUR DOWNTOWN CORE IS THAT ROCKWALL TO VIRGINIA. BUT OUR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN DISTRICT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN MORE. AND CAN YOU IMAGINE SOME OF THOSE STRIP CENTERS, IF WE WERE ABLE TO TURN THOSE INTO SECOND GENERATION REMODELS? SO THEY'RE DOING AMAZING THINGS WITH THE 1980S STRIP CENTERS. AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE VERY PREPARED FOR THOSE TYPES OF INVESTORS. ALSO AT THE MOMENT, NO, I THINK YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. 
          OKAY. OKAY. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE FUN PEOPLE TO WORK WITH WHAT I'VE DEALT WITH. BUT YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. AND TO HELP US WITH THE. I KNOW Y'ALL GO TO THE LIKE THE RED RIVER MORE LOCAL I SEE TWO. 
          WHAT ABOUT LIKE WHAT IS THERE LIKE A DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER DO YOU ALL GO TO. WELL, WE'RE A PART OF THE DALLAS DFW MARKETING TEAM. YES. I DON'T KNOW IF MORE LIKE LOCALLY OWNED SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE AT THOSE MEETINGS. AND IF YOU ALL COULD LEVERAGE SOME OF THESE VACANT BUILDINGS THERE SO YOU HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT SOME OF THOSE AT THE RED RIVER. OKAY, OKAY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THEM WILL BE AT THE NATIONAL SHOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HAVING THE APPOINTMENT WITH THEM. AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST AS EASY TO GET ONE AT WHEREVER IT IS. AT THE BIG SHOW IN LAS VEGAS, HOWEVER, THERE'S TIMES THAT WE COULDN'T GET ONE WITH PEOPLE HERE, BUT WE COULD THERE. OKAY. 
          AND I'LL GIVE YOU A JUST A REAL PRIME EXAMPLE OF DAVID HARDEN WITH TOM THUG. I CAN'T GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH HIM HERE, BUT I CAN GET ONE WITH HIM AT ICSC IN LAS VEGAS. OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT HE. HE'S TOO BUSY. BUT I CAN GET ONE WITH HIM THERE OKAY, GREAT. IT'S JUST KIND OF ODD HOW THAT WORKS, BUT. AND WE'RE LEARNING, WE'RE CONTINUE TO LEARN. AND SO I'M EXCITED TO PREPARE FOR THIS YEAR NOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT. SO ANYWAY, ONE LAST QUESTION. WHEN YOU GO TO THE SHOWS, DO YOU TAKE LIKE DO YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THESE BUILDINGS AS THEY ARE TODAY OR DO YOU TAKE THEM? MARK THACHER PICTURE RENDERINGS, RENDERINGS? YES, YES, WE WE HAVE. LAST TIME WHEN I WALKED AROUND, WE TALKED ANGIE AND I, WE WENT AND WE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW. I WENT AROUND AND TALKED A LOT ABOUT TOWN SQUARE. I TALKED ABOUT VACANT LAND, AND I TALKED ABOUT ITS ADJACENCY TO OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LOT 
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OF THINGS TO BRAG ABOUT. IN FACT, WHEN I HAD TO MAKE THE LIST FOR THE EVALUATION TEAM OF ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETELY RENOVATED, IT IS A LOT. AND SO IT'S IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THOSE MARKETING PIECES ARE ARE. RIGHT. SO ONE QUESTION SOCIAL. IT LOOKS GREAT. 
          THE WINDOWS AND THE PAINT, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ON IT SO FAR IS AWESOME. I SEE HERE OPENING DATE SCHEDULED. WHAT'S OUR ETA TODAY. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE END OF APRIL. THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT PATIO WEATHER. YES. OUR BOOK CLUB IS READY. WE DID START COMING THIS LAST WEEK. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY ON THAT BUILDING SO WE CAN CONTINUE. COOL THING. WE DID FIND AN 1800 BOTTLE OF SHOE POLISH. THAT WAS VERY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. OH MY GOODNESS, I'LL BRING THAT TO Y'ALL. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY UNDER THERE. AND I'M WAITING ON THE CONTRACTOR TO TELL ME WHAT THE DEMOLITION SCHEDULE IS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT BUILDING WILL BE DOWN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THEY CAN KEEP MOVING. SO WHERE DID WE LAND ON DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE VACANT LOT NEXT TO HIM? THAT IT WILL JUST REMAIN VACANT FOR A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT? I KNOW THAT TIP. WELL, HERE'S THE THING I, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JONATHAN AND ONCE HE KIND OF GETS HIMSELF SITUATED, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A REQUEST TO TAKE IN SOME OF THAT. SO I WANTED TO LET THAT HAPPEN NATURALLY AND SEE HOW WE CAN KIND OF CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THAT. AND SO SINCE WE'RE ONLY A FEW MONTHS OUT OF THAT, WE ARE NEVER NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ROCKWALL AND MORE, BECAUSE IT'S AWFUL TO ME. HOWEVER, DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE? THANK YOU, MR. PARKER. WHO? I DID NOT INTRODUCE. OUR INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HAS JOINED OUR MEETING TODAY. MR. BURNEY IS HERE AND I NEED TO THANK HIM. DID Y'ALL NOTICE THAT THE CONTAINERS ARE GONE? YES. AND WE DID THAT BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. AND THAT WAS A HUGE WIN. ANYWAY, SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT BUT YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THERE. BUT I DID WANT TO LET THEM KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF SPACE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO NEED. 
          YEAH. YEAH. SO SO I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN AND LET THEM GET SOME ANSWERS FROM Y'ALL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THE BIG THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WE ARE BACK AGAIN. RAYLAND PROVIDED A QUICK UPDATE ON THE UPPER RAILROAD AND THE RIGHT OF WAY FENCING AND THE TRASH ENCLOSURES. WE HAVE SUBMITTED A LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          JUST AN UPDATE ON FROM LAST TIME. WENT BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT ON ON SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THEIR GIS AND HOW THEY UPLOADED IT TO THEIR SYSTEM. AND NOW IT'S ON THEIR PLATE. LIKE BRANDON SAID, EP TAKES THEIR TIME, WE'RE GENTLY PUSHING THEM, BUT OBVIOUSLY BEING RESPECTFUL AND NOT DOING TOO MUCH THERE. SO THE HOPE IS THAT NEXT MONTH WE HAVE A UPDATE ON THIS AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD, WHICH HAPPENS FIRST, THE FENCING AND DUMPSTERS OR THE OVERLAY FENCING AND DUMPSTERS. OKAY. OVERLAY CANNOT HAPPEN UNTIL SUMMER BECAUSE OF WEATHER. AND THAT'S WHEN WE DO OUR STREETS OVERLAY. OKAY. SO THIS SHOULD BE A SPRING PROJECT AND THEN OVERLAY SUMMER PROJECT OKAY. AND JUST WROUGHT IRON FENCE. IT'S GOING TO HOW WAS DESIGNED. IT COINCIDES WITH THE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE CROSSINGS THERE AS WELL. WE'LL BE ABLE TO INSTALL PROBABLY ABOUT 90% OF IT DAY ONE. THE LAST 10% WOULD BE WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE GETS COMPLETE LATER. SO WE'RE NOT REDOING ANY SORT OF WORK. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. SO THE VOTE WAS FOR NUMBER FOUR THERE, WHICH I THINK YOU ALL WERE. YEAH. WAS IT. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T SEE THE ACTUAL RESULTS. WE JUST SAW THE HEARD ABOUT IT. YEAH. WE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT. SO YOU'RE NOT ON THE PEOPLE OF TAROT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TAROT RESONANCE, SO I'M NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON THERE. WE'VE TRIED. YEAH, I'LL TRY TO GET ON IT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE FAKE ACCOUNTS TO GET ON THERE, BUT THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE IT, BUT WE I THINK THAT COINCIDED WITH WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED AS WELL. 
          SO I THINK THAT'LL WORK PRETTY WELL WITHOUT ANY SORT OF GLASS CONTAINMENT AROUND IT. THE COKE USUALLY AGES PRETTY WELL, BUT EITHER WAY, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY SORT OF YELLOWING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS SUBMITTED OVER TO TEX-DOT. THEY'RE IN REVIEW OF 
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IT NOW, BUT WE KNOW IT WORKS WITH THEIR PHOTOMETRIC REQUIREMENTS. SO FEELING OPTIMISTIC. SO ONE OF Y'ALL'S REQUESTS LAST TIME WAS TO PUT THESE ON THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED POLES. SO WE DID A QUICK RENDERING PUT IT ON THE SILVER EXISTING ONES OUT THERE TODAY. SO IT COULD BE BRACKETED ON THERE DAY ONE. AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO REPLACE THEM ALL ON BRACKET AND BRACKET, THE NEW ONE. BUT THAT'S THE COLOR WE'RE GOING FOR WITH ALL THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS AND THE LARGER OVERHEAD LIGHTS AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE LONG TERM. THE NEXT PAGE, SAME THING, BUT WITH THE BROWN SIGNS, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY WOULD BOTH GENERALLY LOOK LIKE. SO SOME HEAD SHAKES I AGREE THE BLACK ONE LOOKS A LITTLE BETTER, BUT UP TO YOU GUYS, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO, GO FORWARD WITH WHO LIKE WHO PREFERS THE BLACK SIGNS? WHO PREFERS THE BROWN SIGNS? IS THAT HELPFUL? VERY HELPFUL, VERY DIRECT. OKAY. I THINK I LIKE A CONTRASTING COLOR, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE BROWN NOW. OKAY, SEE THE BLACK POLES? I MEAN, THE BLACK DOESN'T LOOK BAD. YEAH. THE CONTRAST AND COLOR DOES TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT YEAH, SEEING IT IS BELIEVING IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I THINK THE TRICKY PART IS THE YEAH, IT'S TIMELESS. I KNOW LAST TIME HILLARY HAD TALKED ABOUT BLACK HOLES, SHE HAD MENTIONED HOW SHORT THEY WERE, AND I WAS LIKE 100 ON THAT. WHEN I DROVE OUT OF THIS MEETING, I WASN'T SURE. YEAH. SO FOR THE PEDESTRIAN POLES, I THINK THEY'RE ABOUT 12FT TALL RIGHT NOW. OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW RAISES TO 15FT. WE CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT. WE JUST START GETTING INTO. AWNINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE WANT TO. SO BUT THEY WILL BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER. ARE WE TRYING TO DO THE BROWN? I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE FRONTS THAT WE GET. RENDERINGS ARE KIND OF HAVE A TANNISH WERE YOU TRYING TO MATCH TO THAT OR CURRENT CURRENT TEXT CODE RIGHT NOW REQUIRES EITHER GREEN, BLUE OR BROWN. OKAY, WAYFINDING SIGNS OR THE UGLY BROWN. THAT'S A TEXT. OH YEAH. YEAH. BUT IT DOES COINCIDE WITH THOSE FACADES. YEAH, IT DOES KIND OF A SIMILAR NATURE. THAT'S WHY WE LAND ON THAT. RATHER THAN HAVE TO GET APPROVAL, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR WE'VE SUBMITTED ALREADY. I MEAN, NOW THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT IN BLACK, I FEEL LIKE THE GREEN WOULD BE FINE ON THE BLACK. THE GREEN ON THE SILVER IS NOT GREAT. BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ASK FOR APPROVAL FOR. 
          BUT IF IF IT WERE MY VOTE, IF WE HAD A FALLBACK COLOR, I WOULD SAY JUST LEAVE THEM GREEN WITH BLACK. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CONTRAST. I THINK GRAPEVINE HAS GREEN STREET SIGNS WITH BLACK POWDER COATED FIXTURES, I BELIEVE. YEAH. COULD WE JUST COULD WE DO A GREEN ONE ON THE RIGHT JUST. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL JUST YOU KNOW THAT THAT ONE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. YEAH. I STILL LIKE THE BLACK. IT'S ELEVATED IN DIFFERENT IF IT'S. YEAH IT JUST FOR OUR DOWNTOWN CORE. AND AND THEY HAVE APPROVED STYLES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THEIR STANDARDS BEFORE WITH JAMIE FOXX OVER THERE. SO OPTIMISTIC IT WOULD LOOK NICE WITH THE BLACK LIGHT FIXTURES AND THINGS. SO QUICK UPDATE ON CATHERINE STREET FROM THE CORRIDOR PERSPECTIVE. THEY REQUESTED WE REMOVE THE SPEED TABLE. WITH THAT SAID. WITH THAT SAID THERE IS A WAY TO GENTLY SLOPE UP, SO THE CROSSING THROUGH CATHERINE STREET IS ONE COHESIVE SORT OF UNIT THERE THAT ABIDES TO OLDER STANDARDS. OTHER CODES. WE RECEIVED THAT FEEDBACK. WE UPDATED, WE SENT IT OUT. SO ONCE AGAIN, KIND OF IN THE COURT RIGHT AWAY. WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT LIKELY FOR THE NEXT MEETING. BUT ONCE AGAIN, DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE ANY SORT OF ISSUE TO EVERYTHING THEY SAID IT WAS ATYPICAL FOR WHAT THEY'RE USED TO ON A ROAD WITH THIS WIDE, AND THAT IS TRUE, BUT IT ISN'T. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. 
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IT'S JUST NOT NORMAL. WE'LL SAY. SO. IT'S KIND OF NEW. HE'S NEW. LIKE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUSH HIM TOO MUCH. YEAH, HE'S VERY NEW. THE OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY IN THIS AREA IS HE'S BEEN THERE. WHAT MAYBE UNDER A YEAR. YEAH. SO I THINK HE'S APPROACHING EVERYTHING FROM A LEVEL OF CAUTION. YEAH. AND WHAT WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED, I THINK WILL STILL WORK SIMILARLY TO. SO IT'S ALMOST THE SAME FEEL JUST WITH A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. BUT A VISUAL DIFFERENCE ACROSS? I DON'T THINK SO. WELL, WITH THE, THE PAVING THE WAY. YES. YES, IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT. YEAH. 
          OKAY. YES. HOPEFULLY. I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION AS WELL TO TECH STOCKS. CORRECT. YEAH. 
          YEAH. WELL WE HAVE TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ONCE WE GET THAT GENERAL APPROVAL TO MAKE THE NEXT STEPS STILL BE ASPHALT OR YOU THINK IT'LL BE WE'LL BE ALLOWED TO GO ACROSS 80 WITH A DIFFERENT MATERIAL. I THINK THEY'LL ALLOW I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ALLOW PAVERS, BUT THEY SHOULD ALLOW STAMPED CONCRETE. WE'VE SEEN THEM APPROVE THAT IN THE PAST. YEAH. 
          WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SIGN A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR IT. THE CITY BASICALLY WILL SAY THEY'LL LET US INSTALL ANYTHING AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN IT. YEAH. AND THEN JUST A TEXTURE CHANGE WILL PROBABLY BE TRAFFIC CALMING TO SOME EXTENT. YEAH. THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS LIKE THE TREES GOING UP TO THE INTERSECTION. IT GENERALLY LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE BOLLARDS. YEAH. ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THIS IS WE'LL WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY. WE'LL UPDATE THE MOU FOR COMPLETE STREETS SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IS UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL STAY LIKE THIS. SO SOMEONE DOESN'T COME IN LATER WHEN TAKES OUT, GOES IN AND FIXES US IN 20 YEARS OR SO. THEY DON'T JUST DESTROY THIS. SO REALLY, I WANTED TO SAY THE BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CATHERINE PARK IS OUR ENGINEERING CONTRACT WILL TAKE US THROUGH SCHEMATIC. AND SO WE'RE KIND OF READY TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO START GETTING SOME OF THE PRICING BACK TO YOU. SO YOU GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS LAST MONTH. WE WANTED TO THROW IT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN THIS MONTH JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY MAJOR CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD MAKE OR IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. WE JUST WANTED TO ALLOW Y'ALL, SINCE YOU'VE HAD SOME TIME NOW, TO THROW OUT ANY MAJOR CHANGES. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN TWEAK THINGS ALONG THE WAY, BUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR CONTRACT, WE NEEDED TO TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD START PRICING. 
          EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCHEMATIC AS PRESENTED. AND THERE WILL BE OPTIONS AS WE PROGRESS TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS. JUST THE OVERALL PICTURE IS KIND OF WHAT WE NEED A LEVEL OF APPROVAL ON, JUST SO THERE'S NOT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF GO BACK THROUGH. 
          THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL, OBVIOUSLY LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WILL ADD FOR BUILDINGS AND HOW THE APPROACHES WORK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT OVERALL DESIGN, HOW IT'S BEEN PRESENTED WILL BE IN EFFECT, OBVIOUSLY, 90% OF ITS IT WORKS WELL. RAYLAN, CAN YOU LET BARNEY IN? WE GAVE HER THE KEY ALSO. DON'T LOOK OBVIOUS. Y'ALL DONE A GREAT JOB ON THIS, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO CHANGE. ALL RIGHT, MAKE IT HAPPEN. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          TOMORROW? YEAH. TOMORROW. TOMORROW BY JUNE, THIS WOULD BE. THIS WILL BE GREAT PROJECT. 
          AGREED. JUST A REMINDER FOR OUR BOARD. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN THIS WEEK. 
          THAT'S, OF COURSE, FROM 2017. BUT IT CALLS FOR A DOWNTOWN PLAZA. AND I HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME MAGICAL DAY IN THE FUTURE WHEN. WHAT ARE YOU CALLING THE THING BEHIND SOUTH ALLEY TOWN SQUARE HAPPENS. BUT THAT'S NOT IN OUR SCOPE. SO THIS IS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PROJECT OR A TEN. WHAT IS WHAT WERE THOSE EYEBROWS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC LIKE FIVE YEAR MEANING. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WE COULD SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. YOU'RE HOPING SOONER? I WAS YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. THAT'S WHAT WAS MY THOUGHT. TEN YEAR TENURE. WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. THIS THIS HAPPENS ABOUT FUNDING. YEAH. OF COURSE, OF COURSE THIS HAPPENS 
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10 TO 12 MONTHS AFTER IT'S FUNDED. OKAY, WELL, I AM EXPECTING AN ASTRONOMICAL FIGURE FOR THIS. SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T STOMACH ON OUR OWN. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS WITH TEXDOT. OR THEY PROBABLY DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING OR CITY OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO I, I LIKE THE HOPIUM YOU'RE GIVING ME. I. YEAH. OKAY. I'LL PLEASE SURPRISE ME. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A COUPON? I DON'T KNOW OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE DESIGN WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON PAPER AND SHELF FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW, WHERE I THINK MY HESITATION IS COMING FROM. WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS. AND THERE'S THINGS THAT THERE'S WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE COMPLETE STREETS PLAN THAT WE ALL GOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. OKAY, SO PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG. TRASH CANS SINCE THEN. YEAH. YEAH. ENTRIES. SO I LIKE THAT. YEAH, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE A LOT FASTER. WE WOULD LIKE IT TO. AND FOR OUR BOARD, IF OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THIS, WE HAVE TO BE VERY METHODICAL IN OUR SPENDING OVER THE NEXT EVEN 12 MONTHS SO THAT WE CAN START PREPARING FOR THIS EXPENSE EXPENDITURE, WHICH IS A GAME CHANGER FOR DOWNTOWN. AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE AS WELL. OKAY. JUST WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS. HUGE GAME CHANGER. GREAT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ALRIGHT. ANYTHING FROM OUR BOARD I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE 8:00 ON A FRIDAY MORNING CONSISTENTLY. ALL RIGHT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YES, KEN, I WOULD JUST SAY AS WE CONSIDER QUESTIONS FOR WAYLON ABOUT THE PROPOSAL, MAYBE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DUPLICATE IT, I THINK. YEAH, THE TRICKY PART IS WE CAN'T EMAIL AS A GROUP. SO EVERYBODY SEND ME EVERYTHING, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATION PIECES DURING NEGOTIATIONS. YEAH. PLEASE SEND OUT TO US. 
          WELL AND I CAN SEND THAT BACK TO THE BOARD. YEAH. ONCE ONCE YOU SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE, WE HAVE SOME THINGS AND THAT I CAN ALSO UPDATE EVERYONE THROUGH EMAIL WITH AN FAQ. DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE AS. THIS WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY THE 20TH. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET IN THE ROOM WITH THE DEVELOPER BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, 1ST OF FEBRUARY. SO THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS, JUST ANY TIME WITHIN THE NEXT 2 OR 3 WEEKS WOULD BE PERFECT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE GUESTS BEING HERE. MAKES IT MORE FUN. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED BY EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.
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