[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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GOING TO GET STARTED. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2025. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, COMMISSIONER DEBORAH, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAVE US AN INVOCATION, PLEASE? YES. PLEASE STAND. PLEASE. GRACIOUS FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY. WE JUST THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, BECAUSE WE KNOW IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS THAT'S GOING ON, THE CHAOS AND THE ALL THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE NEWS AND IN THE COMMUNITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE STILL KNOW THAT JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON AND WE THANK YOU, LORD. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU JUST BLESS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GRIEVING RIGHT NOW, THE LOSS OF THEIR LOVED ONES. THERE'LL BE A FEW CHAIRS THAT ARE NOT AT THE TABLE OR EMPTY CHAIRS. THERE'S NOBODY THERE. AND LORD, WE JUST PRAY. AND STILL FOR THE CANDIDATES, THE FAMILY. I KNOW ONE YEAR PASSED SINCE THAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND WE'RE STILL HURTING FOR THAT LOSS. JUST LIKE A LOT OF THESE THAT ARE STILL HERE TODAY, THEY'RE STILL HURTING BECAUSE OF LOVED ONES THAT HAVE PASSED ON. WE JUST WANT TO LIFT THEM UP RIGHT NOW, LORD, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SORROW HERE ON EARTH CAN BE HEALED BY YOU IN HEAVEN. AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. WE WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, FOR THE CITY STAFF. WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING, ALL THAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE. IN JESUS PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND PLEDGE TO TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ROLL FIRST. IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S PRESENT FOR LORI. JANET, WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND EXPLAIN TO US THE REASON FOR MISS ABSENCE FOR MISS LORI? YES, SIR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM COMMISSIONER LORI LINDSEY THIS PAST WEEK THAT DUE TO HER WORKING SITUATION AND TRAVEL, THAT SHE WANTED TO EXERCISE THAT OPTION IN OUR ORDINANCE 3040, THAT SHE TAKE AN EXTENDED LEAVE, THIS BOARD FALLS UNDER THE OVERSIGHT OF CITY COUNCILWOMAN MAY RONNIE VELAZQUEZ. AND SO WE MEET AGAIN ON JANUARY THE 13TH. IN HER RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT WILL HAPPEN THAT NIGHT. AND SO I'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK. WE'LL WORK WITH THAT INTERIM COMMISSIONER AND TO GET THEM BACK ON THIS BOARD AND MISS LINDSAY'S ABSENCE. NOT REAL SURE YET WHAT THE EXTENT OF HER ABSENCE WILL BE. I JUST KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN THIS REQUEST, AND MAY RONNIE IS WORKING ON IT. THANK YOU. MA'AM.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GET STARTED. DO WE HAVE ANY BEFORE WE GET STARTED? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK OR ADDRESS THE THE BOARD HERE IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR ANYTHING. NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOPE. OKAY. THANK
[5. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, HAVE WE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MEETING, THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETINGS FROM NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025? AND IF SO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025.YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM
[6. PUBLIC HEARING]
6.1 PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN. WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE AG TO HIGHWAY COURIER ON A 2.21 ACRES IN THE W.E. SULLIVAN SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 490, TRACK 45.08, IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS 15 693 SH 205 TERRELL, TEXAS, KAUFMAN COUNTY, SEE PROPERTY ID 13 739. THIS IS ZONE CHANGE 25 DASH 1625. DASH 3161. JANET, PLEASE. YES, CHAIRMAN. TONIGHT I BRING WITH[00:05:10]
YOU A ZONE CHANGE FOR 15693 STATE HIGHWAY 205. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE LAND EXCHANGE, LLC. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE. AS THIS PROPERTY CAME INTO OUR CITY LIMITS IN 2023, THE EXISTING USE IS VACANT. IT WAS FORMERLY A RESIDENCE WITH A DOUBLE WIDE ON THERE. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS TEXAS HERITAGE. THIS PROPERTY OWNER IS THE LEGAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND HAS SUBMITTED A ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION IN ORDER TO MAKE PLANS FOR POTENTIAL BUYERS BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER CODES AS APPLICABLE. THIS PROPERTY WOULD COMPLY AS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THE REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE THAT THIS APPLICANT IS WANTING TO DO.EIGHT LETTERS WERE SENT OUT TO A BUDDING LANDOWNERS AND AS OF THIS DATE, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY RESPONSES EITHER IN FAVOR OR NOT IN FAVOR. IF YOU'LL GO TO PAGE 13, OUR LOCATION MAP IN RED, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. I HAVE THE PICTURE ON THE NEXT PAGE. JUST A GOOGLE PIC OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. ON PAGE 15 IS OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S CURRENTLY IN RESIDENT AGRICULTURE. ACROSS THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL. THAT IS THE VENUE THAT WE APPROVE. THIS BOARD APPROVED LAST YEAR. WE'VE GOT OTHERS ON THAT SIDE THAT ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL. ACROSS THE STREET IS A RETAIL. HOW WOULD CORRIDOR WILL FIT WITHIN THIS AREA. AND THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUR PREFERRED ZONING FOR THIS AREA FOR ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS. OR ON THE NEXT PAGE IS THE THE FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH THERE IS NOT ONE BECAUSE IT'S STILL ZONED HERITAGE. FOLLOWING PAGES. OUR BUFFER ZONE FOLLOWED BY THE ABUTTING LANDOWNERS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS FROM A ZONE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, AND I WILL PAUSE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ITEM 6.1 ZONE CHANGE 25, DASH 1625, DASH 3161. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM OF 6.1? NO. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THIS LOCATION UNTIL RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, WE APPROVED ANOTHER ONE THAT WE CHANGED FROM AGRICULTURAL. THEY'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB AT BUILDING THOSE BUILDINGS ALREADY CLOSE TO THAT EDGE.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? REGARDS TO JANET. REGARDS TO ITEM 6.1. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN MY PACKET, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A DIAGRAM THAT HAD A BUFFER ZONE. IT'S ON PAGE. IT'S IN HERE TWICE. SO THE BUFFER ZONE IS ON PAGE 17. IT WAS OH I'M SORRY. IT LOOKED LIKE A HERITAGE BUFFER ZONE LIKE GREEN. IT HAD GREEN DASH LINE THIS ONE HERITAGE BUFFER ZONE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS. HERITAGE IS IS BASICALLY AGRICULTURE THAT CAN GO EITHER RESIDENTIAL RANCHETTES OR IT CAN BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. BUT IT'S ALSO BASED ON THE AG THAT IT THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO OUR CITY LIMITS. AND SO IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY HOLDING PATTERN. THE CITY OF TERRELL WAS REQUIRED SIX MONTHS AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT ANNEXATION TO ESTABLISH ZONING. AND WE ARE NOW WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE AT THIS TIME NOW TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND SO IS THE INTENT BEHIND THE HERITAGE BUFFER ZONE THAT THAT WILL ONE DAY GO AWAY BECAUSE IT WAS TEMPORARY, LIKE BECAUSE I SEE IT. YES. SITE. AND SO I DON'T I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING, BASED ON OUR UPCOMING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT WE'RE GOING TO START NEXT YEAR, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF CHANGES IN THESE NEWLY ANNEXED AREAS. BASED ON THAT STUDY.
THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IN REGARDS TO THIS
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ITEM? 6.1 ZC 25 1625 DASH 3161. IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONE CHANGE 25 DAYS 1625 DASH 3161. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE MOVE ON OVER TO 6.2. CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO HIGHWAY. COURIER ON 21.08 ACRES IN THE J.CASTILLO SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 86, TRACK TWO AND THREE, BLOCK ONE, IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS 15 890 S.H HIGHWAY 205, TERRELL, TEXAS.
KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY ID 3747 AND 1905 75. THIS IS ZONE CHANGE, OR ZC 25 2725 DASH 3164 JANA, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ANOTHER ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AT 15890 STATE HIGHWAY 205. ITS EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURE. THE EXISTING USE IS CURRENTLY GAS STORAGE. TODAY, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS TEXAS HERITAGE AND THE REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE OF HIGHWAY CORRIDOR.
THE PROPERTY IS ON 21 ACRES AND THE GAS STORAGE LLC IS ILLEGAL. OWNER. IT DOES COMPLY. THIS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE DOES REQUIRE, APPLY TO OR COMPLY. EXCUSE ME, I CAN'T SPEAK WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OR ZONING ORDINANCES. WHAT HAVE YOU? 11 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO THE ABUTTING LANDOWNERS AND AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES EITHER IN FAVOR OR NOT IN FAVOR. IF YOU WILL TURN OVER TO PAGE 24, KATIE, YOU WILL SEE A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. THIS PROPERTY OWNER IS WANTING TO. THEY HAVE LAND THAT HOOKS OFF TO THE RIGHT. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU NEXT ON. LET'S GO TO PAGE 26. THAT'S A GOOD ONE KATIE. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE WHERE THE ORIGINAL THE LONG TRACT RIGHT IN THERE. THAT'S THEIR EXISTING THAT THEY HAVE THEIR BUSINESS THEY ACQUIRED. THEN THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS COUNTY ROAD 243, THE CITY OF TERRELL LET ME BACK UP. 243 IS IN THE CITY OF TERRELL'S CITY LIMITS.
UP UNTIL ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THAT PARCEL. AND SO WE HAVE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION THAT THE ACCESS ON 243 CURRENTLY IS NOT IDEAL, BUT AT A PROPER TIME WE WILL WORK WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS IF AND WHEN WE HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA THAT FALLS WITHIN OUR CITY. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND AT THE TIME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAT, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM ON THE DETAILS OF THE INGRESS EGRESS FOR SURE. SO FOR THE PORTION THAT FALLS WITHIN OUR ETJ AND OUR COUNTY, WE'LL SWITCH FLIP OVER. YOU'LL SEE OUR BUFFER ZONE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES. THE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ZONE. CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. AND I WILL PAUSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU.
MA'AM. YES, SIR. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. REGARDS TO ITEM 6.2, ZONE CHANGE 25 2725. DASH 3164. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? 6.2 NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE. JANET. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THIS IS JUST THE. WE'RE JUST APPROVING JUST WHERE THE ORIGINAL LAND WAS, RIGHT? NOT THE ONE OFF OF 243. NO, WE'RE THE ZONE. CHANGE WOULD AFFECT THE WHOLE. YES, SIR. OKAY. HAVE THEY BEEN REPLATTED INTO ONE PARCEL THAT THE PENDING ON THIS ZONE CHANGE THEN? YES, THEY WILL THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION PLAT. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY? THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE SAME AND HAVE THE SAME BUSINESSES ONTO THE OTHER PART. SO THE USE WILL NOT CHANGE. AND SO THERE WILL HAVE
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THE SAME BUSINESS ACROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WHAT DOES THE WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC LOOK LIKE THROUGH THERE. SINGLE FAMILY. AREN'T THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ACROSS. THIS IS JUST A ZONE CHANGE. ALL THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THE INFORMATION SUCH AS THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLAT. SO REALLY THERE'S MORE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. THE PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE HARD CORNER OF 243 AND STATE HIGHWAY 205, IS MAMA'S FIREWORKS STAND. ACROSS THE STREET. THERE IS THAT OLD RED BARN THAT USED TO BE KNOWN AS JENNY'S, THAT YOU ALL GRANTED A ZONE CHANGE A FEW MONTHS AGO. ACROSS ON THE THE SOUTH SIDE. THERE IS A BARN THERE, BUT THERE'S BUSINESSES. THE FROM JENNY'S, THERE'S A LITTLE OPEN AREA AND THEN THAT'S THAT FLEX SPACE THAT YOU ALL APPROVED. AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY PHASE ONE OF IT. SO IN THAT AREA IS MORE BUSINESSES ALONG 205. TO NECESSARILY ALONG IS THAT 1392 92 YES, YES. AND WE WILL DO A REQUIRE, AS WE DO ON ALL CONSTRUCTION PLATS, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, A DRAINAGE STUDY, WHAT HAVE YOU.WE'RE JUST HERE TODAY JUST TO DETERMINE THE ZONING. I YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY INDUSTRIAL AND I THINK ABOUT IT GOING ACROSS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF I THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THAT MIGHT BE WHERE I LIVE, SOMETIMES THOSE TYPE OF IMPACTS MIGHT AFFECT WHETHER OR NOT WE REZONE. RIGHT. ULTIMATELY, I WOULD THINK, REMEMBER 205 AND 1392 ARE TXDOT FACILITIES. SO EVEN THOUGH YES, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP AND ALL OUR HANDS ARE TIED, THOSE ARE PLANNED THROUGH THE TXDOT FUNDING PROGRAM. AND AND WHEN WE ASK, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH IN THAT AREA ON 205.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT 1392. AND I GUESS THAT'S MY THING IS THE L SHAPE, IT'S REALLY THE 13. LIKE IF IT WAS THE WHOLE LENGTH THAT DIDN'T FACE 1392, I THINK I THAT'S WHAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IS THE PIECE THAT'S ON 1392, GIVEN IT'S KIND OF A FEELS LIKE A FARM TO MARKET, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL IS A VERY INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT, WHICH IS GREAT. I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I HAVE I'D LIKE TO BE IF IT WERE MY HOME, I WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEONE WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO THAT FOR ME. SURE, SURE I UNDERSTAND. SURE. AND AND. YEAH. AND AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK TO TEXDOT AND SEE WHAT THEIR FUTURE PLANS ARE. BUT GENERALLY THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, IN THE QUEUE AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION PLAT TWO. THERE'S A I KNOW WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A GOOD FRONTAGE THERE. IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE COMPLETELY OPEN. WE CAN HAVE THEM STIPULATE WHAT THEY WHAT, HOW THE I GUESS, SHRUBBERY OR HOW THE LANDSCAPING CAN BE IN THE FRONT THERE TO, TO KIND OF COVER UP SOME. SO IT'S NOT A HUGE VIEW FROM THEM. BUT THAT'S IN THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON DOWN THE ROAD.
AND WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE DID PUT OUT NOTICES TO ALL THE BUFFERING PROPERTIES. AND SO IF THEY HAD ISSUES WITH ANYTHING ABOUT THAT COMING TO THE FOREBEAR, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT. YES. AND AS WELL AS IN THE 40 MESSENGER, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, POSTED. SO AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WELL MOST OF THEM LIVE COUNTY ROAD 243, NOT FM 1392. AND IT IS PART COUNTY PART CITY ROAD. MY QUESTION IS IS HOW FAR BACK NORMALLY OFF OF A HIGHWAY IS THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ZONING TYPICALLY DONE? IS THERE IS THERE A DISTANCE? USUALLY. THE ZONING WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY OF THE PARCEL ITSELF. SO IT COULD GO BACK FAR OFF OF THE HIGHWAY. BUT THERE'S NOT A ZONING SETBACK. OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE HALF OF THE PARCEL OR JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR STOPS AND A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ZONE MORE APPROPRIATE OFF OF THE HIGHWAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT. YES. THE ZONING WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, SO IT WOULD GO TO THE BOUNDARY. NOW, IF YOU GOT ME SAYING 13
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RIGHT. 243 IF 243 ELECTS DOWN THE ROAD AND TEX DOT WANTS TO WIDEN THAT, THEN THEN THAT BECOMES JUST LIKE A TYPICAL TEX-DOT WIDENING PROJECT. PROJECT WHERE THEY'LL DO LAND TAKES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THAT'S I KNOW IT'S DOWN THE FUTURE, BUT YOU, YOU CONSIDER IT. BUT THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD ROLL. THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE PLAT HERE ONCE ONCE THIS.IF THIS IS APPROVED PROPERLY, THEN THEY'LL COME IN AND REPLANT TO ONE PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ZONING SPECIFICALLY FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR WHERE THAT POTENTIALLY ENDS. AND ANOTHER LIKE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. AND I GET THAT. IT'S ON THIS ONE PLAT AND IT'S NOT THAT FAR OFF.
BUT IF IT WENT BACK ANOTHER MILE, WOULD IT ALSO BE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEHIND THIS PARCEL IS CONSIDERED IN OUR ETJ. SO OTHER THAN PLATTING, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNTY TO CONTROL THOSE BUILDING STANDARDS IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WANTED TO VOLUNTARILY INTO IT, WE WOULD NOT BE HELD TO REQUIRING THEM TO DO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FACE THE THE HIGHWAY SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL TO PRESENT.
SO THEN TO TO ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION WAS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE ISN'T A SET DISTANCE FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. IT'S THE PROPERTY OFF THE CORRIDOR. AND THIS LITTLE PIECE IS INDIRECTLY BENEFITING FROM THAT. IF WE REZONE IT SO THAT THEY CAN THEN REPLAT IT. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS IF THIS WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LANDOWNER, THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GET HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, THEY WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED. BUT BECAUSE HE'S WANTING TO PLAT EVERYTHING INTO ONE PARCEL AND THE USE IS GOING TO BE CONSISTENT THROUGH THE WHOLE, THEN HIGHWAY CORRIDOR IS THE REQUESTED ZONING THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU. SO THEN TO ASK A DIFFERENT WAY, LET'S SAY I WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LANDOWNER. COULD I GET HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AS A SEPARATE INDEPENDENT OWNER? MOST LIKELY.
MOST LIKELY BASED ON THE ZONING, THE STRATEGIC ZONING PLAN. EXACTLY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF CHANGES, MOST LIKELY WITH THIS UP AND COMING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO START, THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN. AS AN EXAMPLE TO TO I THINK I KNOW WHAT SHE'S GOING. FOR EXAMPLE, WE IN THE NEXT YEARS THAT'S COMING IN THE COMP PLAN, WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT A CERTAIN LENGTH INTO THAT AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE 1000FT CLOSER TO STATE HIGHWAY, ABSOLUTELY. YOU WILL. YOU QUALIFY FOR HIGHWAY. ACTUALLY DICTATE THAT IF WE WANTED TO. SO THEN WHY WOULDN'T WE WAIT UNTIL THAT COMES THROUGH? WELL, JUST LET ME LET ME SAY RIGHT NOW IN OUR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR AND, AND I CAN GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST WEEK ON A REPLAT. WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT IT'S HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. IF IT'S 700FT WITHIN 700FT, THEY MUST COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. ANYTHING 700 AND MORE THAN THEY THEY THERE ARE CERTAIN USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ZONING. OKAY. SO WE DID A REPLAT LAST WEEK ON COUNTY ROAD 305, AND IT WAS UNDER THE CONSENT ITEMS, AND THOSE WERE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY FELT THEY PROVED UP, THAT THEY WERE OVER 700FT FROM THE EDGE OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE USE THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO HAVE ON THAT PROPERTY WAS ALLOWED. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE IT'S THE SAME OWNER HERE THAT WANTS IT'S NOT A DIFFERENT YES. IT'S THE SAME OWNER WANTS TO JUST CONVERT OVER TO HIGHWAY COURIER. WE'RE NOT TALKING TO A DIFFERENT OWNER. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET COME DOWN AND GIVE US THEIR THOUGHT, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE. THEY WERE NOTIFIED. WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ITEM 6.1. ZONING CHANGE 25 DASH 2725 DASH 3164. IF NOT COMMISSIONERS, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR ZONE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO HIGHWAY CORRIDOR 25 DASH 3164. I HAVE A
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MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6.2 ZONE CHANGE 25 DASH 2725. DASH 3164. DO I HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON OVER TO ITEM 6.3. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ZONE CHANGE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL ON .447 ACRES IN THE RANDALL ADDITION BLOCK ONE, LOT TWO, IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS 94 STATE HIGHWAY 205 TERRELL, TEXAS. KAUFMAN COUNTY CAD PROPERTY ID 50 331. THIS IS ZONE CHANGE 25. DASH 2825. DASH 3165. JANET, PLEASE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AGAIN FOR 94 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 205.IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, BUT IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME. IT USED TO BE A LAUNDROMAT AND THEN IT WAS PART OF THE DEALERSHIP THAT WAS THERE. THEIR SERVICE CENTER, WHAT HAVE YOU. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS LOCAL RETAIL AND OFFICE, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ROCKWALL RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE LEGAL OWNER. THE REQUESTED ZONING. IN THIS AREA FOLLOWS WHAT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE AREA. THE BUDDING LANDOWNERS. THERE WERE SIX LETTERS THAT WERE SENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, AND AS OF THIS DATE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES. COMMISSIONERS STAFF HAS SPENT TIME ON THIS REQUEST AFTER OUR INVESTIGATION AND MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS. WE CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST AS UNCHANGED. AND I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU WHY IT'S IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONTIGUOUS CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. SO IF YOU WILL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, KATIE, YOU WILL SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ARBY'S AND THE WALMART. THE NEXT PAGE IS A GOOGLE PIC OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE TODAY. THE FREESTANDING BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE OIL CHANGE. THE NEXT PAGE IS THE ONE I WANT US TO FOCUS ON, PAGE 35. SO THE PROPERTY IN BLUE IS THE LARGE. WE'RE SPIES. OKAY, IT RECEIVED A PD SLASH H HIGHWAY CORRIDOR BACK IN 20. THE USE WAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT THEY WENT IN AND DID A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ZONING FOR THE USE THAT THEY HAVE TODAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORING ABUTTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, EVERYTHING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THIS OWNER IS WANTING COMMERCIAL. SO TECHNICALLY ZONING THIS COMMERCIAL WOULD BE CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING. SO THIS IS WHY STAFF CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS.
BUT THIS IS UP FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A CONSIDERATION AND A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
ACROSS THE STREET IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN THE WALMART IS COMMERCIAL. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT'S LOCAL. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS LOCAL RETAIL AND OFFICE, NOT COMMERCIAL, RETAIL AND OFFICE. THE FOLLOWING PAGE SHOWS THE BUFFER ZONE THAT WE DID. OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO PAUSE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ZONE CHANGE. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME IN REGARDS TO ITEM 6.3, ZONE CHANGE 25 DASH 2825 DASH 3165. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO FOR JAN IN REGARDS TO THE. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION, MISS DANNER.
YES, MA'AM. CLARIFY FOR ME AGAIN, THIS AREA, THE BLUE IS THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUT
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IT'S ALSO STILL LOCAL RETAIL AND OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT THAT WHOLE AREA AS WELL AS. THEN THE WALMART IS THE COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING FOR US TO MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL. WOULD BE JUST PLOPPING THE COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OKAY, IT'S NOT RETAIL. I MEAN, LET ME ASK THIS. THE USES THAT YOU CAN USE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL, AS WELL AS THE LOCAL RETAIL AND ALL THAT, ARE THEY NOT PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU CAN USE IT FOR? INDUSTRIAL AND RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL. ARE ALL THREE DIFFERENT ANIMALS TOTALLY DIFFERENT ZONING AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS? OKAY. BUT THEY COULD. I'M JUST DO WE KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE. PROPOSED USE IS FOR THAT? YES, MA'AM. THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IN AN UPSCALE PAWN SHOP AND IT ONLY WORKS IN COMMERCIAL ZONING. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SEE. IS IT NOT FITTING IN WITH THE SCHEME OF WHAT? WE'RE KIND OF. YES, MA'AM.IN THERE. OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW IN THE AFTER WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IN THIS AREA. BUT IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE, THAT WHOLE AREA IS COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE IS RETAIL AND OFFICE. I THINK THE SLIDE IS JUST WRONG. OKAY.
BECAUSE THE SLIDE SAYS LOCAL COMMERCIAL. THAT'S. THAT KIND OF THREW ME. YEAH YEAH YEAH. NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S RETAIL AND OFFICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON OUR LIST. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FOR JANET IN REGARDS TO. ITEM 6.2? YES, MA'AM. I SO THE PAWN SHOP WOULDN'T FALL UNDER RETAIL. IT WOULD NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL. BUT IT IS RETAIL IN.
RIGHT. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND AMEND OUR USE CHART TO ALLOW THAT. OKAY. YEAH. MY POINT IS LIKE IF IT OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO FALL UNDER COMMERCIAL, BUT IN ITS ESSENCE IT IS A RETAIL STORE LIKE WHAT IS CURRENTLY AROUND IT OR LESS. AND COULD THEY DO A SPECIAL USE FOR IT? IT'S NOT ALLOWED. WE JUST SAY PAWN SHOP IS STRICTLY COMMERCIAL. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT THIS MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN REGARDS TO ITEM 6.3. ZONE CHANGE 25 DASH 2825. DASH 3165. I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE. IS THAT BUILDING CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM. IT'S JUST SITTING VACANT. NOTHING. YES. YEAH. IT HAS. THAT WHOLE AREA IS JUST SITTING THERE. IT IS. OTHER QUESTIONS. HAVE WE DONE THIS BEFORE? EVER. WHAT'S THAT? THIS? YES. DO WE NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES EVER ALLOWED STAFF HAS NEVER RECOMMENDED SPOT ZONING. OKAY.
BUT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED, HAS IT BEEN DONE? NOT THAT. NOT SINCE MY TIME HERE. OKAY. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE. MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING CAN COME BACK ON US THAT WE NEEDED FOR THIS. YES. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE. OKAY, PAWN SHOP. IS COMMERCIAL. YES, MA'AM. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PAWN SHOP AND AN UPSCALE PAWN SHOP? OR IT. PAWN SHOP IS PAWN SHOP. OKAY. PAWN SHOP. PAWN SHOP? YES, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF WE DID IT, WE'D BE GOING AGAINST OUR ORDINANCE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM.
KEEP IN MIND IF. IF AT THIS TIME, JUST KEEP IT AS AS RETAIL FOR NOW. ONCE WE DO AN OVERHAUL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
COMMISSIONERS, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PLAN IS. THE PLAN IS DOWN THE LINE.
WHEN THEY DO THE OVERHAUL IS TO HAVE IT LOCAL RETAIL AND OFFICE, WHICH IS THE PINK CURRENTLY MISLABELED AS. YES, MA'AM. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL CHANGE THAT IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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ATTORNEY MOTION IN REGARDS TO 6.3 ZONE CHANGE 25 DASH 2825 DASH 3165. I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE ZONE CHANGE. FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 94 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 205, Z 25 3165 25 DASH 28. I HAVE A MOTION TO NOT TO NOT APPROVE. ZONE CHANGE 25. DASH 2825 DASH 3165. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I ANY OPPOSED? I'M GOING TO OPPOSE IT. JUST BECAUSE THE LAND IS SITTING VACANT. THERE'S NOTHING BEING DONE THERE. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPPOSE. WE'LL GET ONE OPPOSED. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON OVER TO CONSENT AGENDA.[7. CONSENT AGENDA]
WE'RE GOING TO GO CONSIDER 7.1 THROUGH 7.8. I BELIEVE JENNA HAS SOMETHING TO ADDRESS US IN REGARDS TO ONE OF THE AGENDAS. YES, CHAIRMAN. STAFF WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ITEM 7.6 AND TO POSTPONE UNTIL OUR JANUARY 22ND, 2026 MEETING. SO THEREFORE, WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM 7.1 TO 7.5 AND THEN 7.7 AND 7.8. OKAY. SO LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE 7.1 THROUGH 7.5 AND 7.7 THROUGH 7.8 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND 7.6 WAS THE ONE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. THIS WELL, THAT I'M REQUESTING TO BE PULLED AND POSTPONED TILL JANUARY 22ND. THE REASON WE'RE WORKING ON SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AND ELEVATION ISSUES AND ENGINEERING IS ALMOST THERE WITH THE APPLICANT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COVERED ALL OF OUR BASES, AND THEY HAVE TO BEFORE WE PROCEED.OKAY. ALL COMMISSIONERS HAVE MOTION WITH REGARDS TO 7.1 THROUGH 7.5 AND THEN 7.7 THROUGH 7.8. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 7.1 THROUGH 7.5, THEN 7.7 TO 7.8. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND I HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA 7.1 THROUGH 7.5 AND THEN 7.7 TO 7.8. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
[7.6. Discuss and Consider a Construction Plat on approximately 21.08 acres in the J. Castillas Survey (Abstract No.86), tracts 2 & 3, Block 1, in the City of Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas. Further identified as 15890 SH 205, Terrell, Texas; Kaufman County CAD; Property ID 3747 and 190575. (CP 25-27).]
MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU MAKE A MOTION ON 7.6 TO POSTPONE 7.6 TILL JANUARY 22ND, 2026? WHAT WAS THE DATE AGAIN, MA'AM? I'M SORRY. PARDON? WHAT WAS THE DATE? JANUARY 22ND, 2026. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT? YES. YES, SIR. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A MOTION IN REGARDS TO TO POSTPONE 7.6 TILL JANUARY 22ND, 2026? I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE CONSENT. AGENDA ITEM 7.6 TO JANUARY 22ND, 2026. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT. MEETING
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.